Chicago Tribune: O'Neal wants to be a Knick

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Option B is said to be Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal. But sources say O'Neal already has told the Pacers he wants to be traded to the Knicks and former Pacers coach and close friend Isiah Thomas. Would the Pacers take Stephon Marbury or maybe a package with Steve Francis, Jared Jeffries and Channing Frye and the Bulls' first-round pick, which the Knicks own in the swap?</div>Interesting....

 

[playaofthegame]

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Why would he want to be a Knick?That place is a mess...no offense Knicks fans

 

[CelticBalla32]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ May 7 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would he want to be a Knick?

That place is a mess...no offense Knicks fans</div>
They would more than likely be a playoff team next year with Jermaine though. So yes, their cap situation is utterly disgusting, and half the players on the team have a me-first attitude (although it has improved, I can't deny that), but they do have talent. They could make the playoffs with a star like Jermaine. With that said, I don't know how true this stuff is. Of course, there will be a report in a day or two with quotes from Jermaine/Bird/Walsh saying that all of this is a ridiculous made up rumor.. so we'll just have to wait and see. New York thinks that they are going to get every star, so I'm not even going to put much stock into this right now.

 

[Memphology]

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IMO, this would benefit both teams. I think you send Curry over to the Pacers though, and send Francis with him with a pick and maybe Frye or something. Then you have a very good lineup of Marbury-Crawford-Richardson-Lee-O'neal.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>so we'll just have to wait and see. New York thinks that they are going to get every star, so I'm not even going to put much stock into this right now.</div>Isaiah Thomas got Jermaine O'Neal's career off the ground in Indiana. He was a mentor to him and pretty much was responsible for turning him into an all-star and one of the best power forwards (when healthy) in the NBA. I don't think it's that far fetched. I'm not saying it's a lock to happen but I don't think this is just another crazy New York Knick rumor.

 

[SirLaker]

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This article is all speculation...there is no reason to believe he wants to be a Knick from reading this. It seems like some writer at the Chicago Tribune though about how Isiah Thomas used to coach JO and thought, what the hell, let's make a story on it. They give no evidence or clue to who the 'sources' are....it could be the guy that sells nachos at Madison Square Garden for all we know. Even the possible deal mentioned says "Would the Pacers do this...?" As in this is all speculation.EDIT: Just like what CB32 said.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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If the Pacers did this they better get a young player like David Lee or Channing Frye or Mardy Collins. If they do this could be a very good trade.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>They give no evidence or clue to who the 'sources' are</div>Writers rarely, if ever, give out their sources when they bring in rumors to the story. Also, maybe Indiana could be tired of Tinsely's injuries and off court antics. If they could get a Marbury + Frye I could see this deal happening.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 7 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Writers rarely, if ever, give out their sources when they bring in rumors to the story. Also, maybe Indiana could be tired of Tinsely's injuries and off court antics. If they could get a Marbury + Frye I could see this deal happening.</div>I'd rather get young players than Marbury

 

[Amare320]

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I doubt marbury would like indiana at all...

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ May 7 2007, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I doubt marbury would like indiana at all...</div>yeah, why would he leave NY? He loves it there.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, why would he leave NY? He loves it there.</div>This is obviously hypothetical, but if Indiana is willing to deal J O'Neal to a packaged NY deal featuring Marbury. You don't think NY would pull the trigger? It's not so much Marbury wants to leave, it's O'Neal supposively said he'd like to be in NY. Also, Indiana has been making a slow digression. Jackson/Harrington weren't working out and now they have two overpaid weaklings in Troy Murphy/Dunleavy. If I were O'Neal I would be frustrated there.

 

[MaRdYC26]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ May 7 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would he want to be a Knick?That place is a mess...no offense Knicks fans</div>It's not that bad? They would've made the playoffs if 3-4 starters didn't get injured over the last month...With that said, I don't think this deal will happen anyway.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 8 2007, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is obviously hypothetical, but if Indiana is willing to deal J O'Neal to a packaged NY deal featuring Marbury. You don't think NY would pull the trigger? It's not so much Marbury wants to leave, it's O'Neal supposively said he'd like to be in NY. Also, Indiana has been making a slow digression. Jackson/Harrington weren't working out and now they have two overpaid weaklings in Troy Murphy/Dunleavy. If I were O'Neal I would be frustrated there.</div>Well, I think you'd be surprised how much say star athletes get in terms of team decisions so I think Marbury could have a lot of influence on whether or not he gets traded and I highly doubt he wants to leave. And I think that JO is not frustrated with anyone on the team, just luck, and the front office. I'm sure JO would be fine building a team around him, Murphy, and Dunleavy as long as the team is good.

 

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Him and Lee would be the Twin Towers down low. I think if they dump some of their gaurds and pickup oneal, itll be isiah's best move ever. It really rounds out the team well.PG: Francis/MarburySG: Marbury/FrancisSF: Quentin RIchardson/Nate RobinsonPF: Oneal/balkman/leeC: lee/oneal/Fryesomething like that, dump off some big contracts, pickup oneal, playoffs right there.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ May 8 2007, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Him and Lee would be the Twin Towers down low. I think if they dump some of their gaurds and pickup oneal, itll be isiah's best move ever. It really rounds out the team well.PG: Francis/MarburySG: Marbury/FrancisSF: Quentin RIchardson/Nate RobinsonPF: Oneal/balkman/leeC: lee/oneal/Fryesomething like that, dump off some big contracts, pickup oneal, playoffs right there.</div>that looks nice but you realize at least 3 of those players would be on the Pacers roster? And wtf is Nate Robinson doing at SF?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 7 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Of course, there will be a report in a day or two with quotes from Jermaine/Bird/Walsh saying that all of this is a ridiculous made up rumor.. so we'll just have to wait and see.</div>
:winkglasses:

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"That's just somebody that's putting out speculation," O'Neal told The Associated Press. "That didn't come from the Pacers, and that didn't come from me."</div>

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Murphy, and Dunleavy as long as the team is good.</div>What teams have Dunleavy and Murphy been on that have been good? Indiana should just start from scratch and trade O'Neal. I really think both NY and Indy could benefit from this trade if it were to ever happen. But CB32's quote kinda squashed that trade idea but still, would he really come out and say yeah I want out?

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 10 2007, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What teams have Dunleavy and Murphy been on that have been good? Indiana should just start from scratch and trade O'Neal. I really think both NY and Indy could benefit from this trade if it were to ever happen. But CB32's quote kinda squashed that trade idea but still, would he really come out and say yeah I want out?</div>dunleavy and murphy make good role players. guys who can hit shots and rebound and play team defense. good role players. they can compliment any player. Even if we were to rebuild I'd like to keep both players. Of course JO isn't going to come out and ask for a trade but that doesn't mean he'll be traded. He only said he didn't ask for one.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>dunleavy and murphy make good role players. guys who can hit shots and rebound and play team defense. good role players. they can compliment any player. Even if we were to rebuild I'd like to keep both players. Of course JO isn't going to come out and ask for a trade but that doesn't mean he'll be traded. He only said he didn't ask for one.</div>They have combined deals of $79 MIL over the next 5 years. They are no in no way good team defenders. They are soft defenders who consistently get overpowered. They can shoot the lights out when their hot, I'll give you that. But overall, the Pacers are a mess and if you think O'Neal is happy about having Dunleavy/Troy Muphy as 2nd/3rd options you're deifnately mistaken. Nobody in the league wants Murphy/Dunleavy because of their production with consideration of their contracts.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 10 2007, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But CB32's quote kinda squashed that trade idea but still, would he really come out and say yeah I want out?</div>
Most certainly not, and that's why I'm not buying into rumors like this, especially this early.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2007, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They have combined deals of $79 MIL over the next 5 years. They are no in no way good team defenders. They are soft defenders who consistently get overpowered. They can shoot the lights out when their hot, I'll give you that. But overall, the Pacers are a mess and if you think O'Neal is happy about having Dunleavy/Troy Muphy as 2nd/3rd options you're deifnately mistaken. Nobody in the league wants Murphy/Dunleavy because of their production with consideration of their contracts.</div>You have no idea. I actually watch them. They are good team defenders, and yes, they are way overpriced but they are good, solid players who are as good as anyone in terms of being built around

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You have no idea. I actually watch them. They are good team defenders, and yes, they are way overpriced but they are good, solid players who are as good as anyone in terms of being built around</div>I've seen them play too....they must be really great role players considering how they get traded from Golden St. to Indiana, Indiana then goes 15-29 after the trade meanwhile Golden St. sneaks into the playoffs and has one of the best upsets in the history of the NBA. Ask Warriors fans, these guys are not that good.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've seen them play too....they must be really great role players considering how they get traded from Golden St. to Indiana, Indiana then goes 15-29 after the trade meanwhile Golden St. sneaks into the playoffs and has one of the best upsets in the history of the NBA. Ask Warriors fans, these guys are not that good.</div>they are good. the team lost after the trade because of injuries, Jamaal Tinsley, and Jermaine O'neal not at 100%

 

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A Knick is he that much of a moron?

If he became a Nuggets Denver be lock for a title next season with Melo/JO/AI But the Nuggets have to give up Nene/JR/First probably more.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jamaal Tinsley</div>O'Neal only missed 8 games out of 44 after that trade and I could see that as a legit argument if he was injured more than that. But that's really not that legit of an argument. And tinsley? Are you kidding me? He's missed half of the season three years in a row. The Pacers can without Jamaal tinsely, don't even start that.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2007, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>O'Neal only missed 8 games out of 44 after that trade and I could see that as a legit argument if he was injured more than that. But that's really not that legit of an argument. And tinsley? Are you kidding me? He's missed half of the season three years in a row. The Pacers can without Jamaal tinsely, don't even start that.</div>O'neal was injured, he was just playing through it, but he was only about 80%, you could tell. Jamaal Tinsley is the pg and pgs can make and break a team. and jamaal breaks the team.

 

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Pacers Fan Forever is delusional. Murphy is alright but is WAY overpaid. Dunleavy is a train wreck. He can shoot and that's it. The Pacers need to blow this team up and start over. I understand they needed to get rid of Jackson, but taking on these two awful contracts was a HUGE mistake. They should've just waited until the off-season and dealt him for cap relief if they were that desperate.Indiana is pathetic, and trading with New York isn't going to change anything. Who are the Knicks going to give them? Channing Frye for an all-star center isn't exactly fair, although it's a lot better than trading for Dunleavy.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Living_Legend33 @ May 11 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pacers Fan Forever is delusional. Murphy is alright but is WAY overpaid. Dunleavy is a train wreck. He can shoot and that's it. The Pacers need to blow this team up and start over. I understand they needed to get rid of Jackson, but taking on these two awful contracts was a HUGE mistake. They should've just waited until the off-season and dealt him for cap relief if they were that desperate.Indiana is pathetic, and trading with New York isn't going to change anything. Who are the Knicks going to give them? Channing Frye for an all-star center isn't exactly fair, although it's a lot better than trading for Dunleavy.</div>You want me to start looking for your posts? You're more delusional than me. And I want the Pacers to blow up, but I want it to be a blow up that will work.

 

[WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You want me to start looking for your posts? You're more delusional than me. And I want the Pacers to blow up, but I want it to be a blow up that will work.</div>Then part of that blow up should be getting rid of guys like Jamaal tinsley. If Jamaal broke your team how could he miss 40 games in 2004-2005 and the Pacers make the playoffs? How could he miss 35 games in 03-04 and the Pacers were the best team in the conference? Jamaal Tinsley does not make or break the Pacers in any way. Are you sure you are a Pacers fan?