Politics China, possibly the biggest cover-up in World History

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https://trib.al/M3bvkoB

China's disappeared: At least one is dead and the rest haven't been heard from in months, so why isn't the world asking what happened to the brave souls who dared to speak up about the coronavirus outbreak after Beijing lied to the world?

The fearsome knock on the door came after nightfall. Outside were two men in hazmat suits who told businessman Fang Bin they had come to take him into medical quarantine. But the textile trader, a gangly man in his early 40s, wasn’t ill and the men outside his Wuhan apartment weren’t doctors. They were police officers confronting a menace the Chinese Communist Party had been grappling with as ferociously as the coronavirus itself – ordinary people who bravely expose the truth about the outbreak and refuse to keep quiet.

 

[barfo]

Nothing in his statements aren't true to what they were told. That will only validate that China was covering things up. You think Xi would be telling the Administration the truth if they weren't?

Sad that Trump has no source of information other than Xi, isn't it.
Sad that he just believes whatever he's told by China.
Sad that he trusts Xi over his own advisors.
Sad that he's a fool.

barfo

 

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Sad that Trump has no source of information other than Xi, isn't it.
Sad that he just believes whatever he's told by China.
Sad that he trusts Xi over his own advisors.
Sad that he's a fool.

barfo

Sad that you think intelligence is like google
Sad that you don't recognize his actions of being extremely touch on China
Sad that Biden is a fool

mags

 

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China only has a 25% favorable. LOL

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't have a clue why anybody would spend any time trying to defend China in all this

whether it was incompetence at a lab or willful ignorance at a disgusting wet market, either is an indictment of the government. And there's no doubt at all they were secretive and engaged in coverup(s).

Obviously trump is going to try and shift blame from himself to China, but that's predictable as rain, and still shouldn't absolve China from accountability. It shouldn't be hard to condemn trump's search for scapegoats without jumping into China's corner

 

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I don't have a clue why anybody would spend any time trying to defend China in all this

whether it was incompetence at a lab or willful ignorance at a disgusting wet market, either is an indictment of the government. And there's no doubt at all they were secretive and engaged in coverup(s).

Obviously trump is going to try and shift blame from himself to China, but that's predictable as rain, and still shouldn't absolve China from accountability. It shouldn't be hard to condemn trump's search for scapegoats without jumping into China's corner

From the recent polling, it looks like China is a big issue. It will be up to Trump and Biden to show the better response to China

 

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Pew research new polling on the United States View of China

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...reasingly-negative-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

 

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[Orion Bailey]

Holy Shit. Whats going on over there at Harvard??????

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/politics/coronavirus-china-disinformation.html

Chinese Agents Helped Spread Messages That Sowed Virus Panic in U.S., Officials Say
American officials were alarmed by fake text messages and social media posts that said President Trump was locking down the country. Experts see a convergence with Russian tactics.

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/...eu-coronavirus.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Pressured by China, E.U. Softens Report on Covid-19 Disinformation
A revised report shows how Beijing reacts swiftly and effectively to tamp down Western criticism of its pandemic response.
By Matt Apuzzo

April 24, 2020, 2:05 p.m. ET
BRUSSELS — Bowing to heavy pressure from Beijing, European Union officials softened their criticism of China this week in a report documenting how governments push disinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, according to documents, emails and interviews.

Worried about the repercussions, European officials first delayed and then rewrote the document in ways that diluted the focus on China, a vital trading partner — taking a very different approach than the confrontational stance adopted by the Trump administration.

The initial European Union report, obtained by The New York Times, was not particularly strident: a routine roundup of publicly available information and news reports.

It cited Beijing’s efforts to curtail mentions of the virus’s origins in China, in part by blaming the United States for spreading the disease internationally. It noted that Beijing had criticized France as slow to respond to the pandemic and had pushed false accusations that French politicians used racist slurs against the head of the World Health Organization. The report also highlighted Russian efforts to promote false health information and sow distrust in Western institutions.

“China has continued to run a global disinformation campaign to deflect blame for the outbreak of the pandemic and improve its international image,” the initial report said. “Both overt and covert tactics have been observed.”

But China moved quickly to block the document’s release, and the European Union pulled back. The report had been on the verge of publication, until senior officials ordered revisions to soften the language.

“The Chinese are already threatening with reactions if the report comes out,” Lutz Güllner, a European Union diplomat, wrote to colleagues on Tuesday in an email seen by The Times.

The sentence about China’s “global disinformation” campaign was removed, as was any mention of the dispute between China and France. Other language was toned down.

The delay and revisions incited anger and frustration among some diplomats and government disinformation analysts. At least one analyst formally objected, writing to her bosses that the European Union was “self-censoring to appease the Chinese Communist Party.”

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[Lanny]

This story is gaining a lot of traction in the media. Figured it qualifies for its own thread.


Intelligence officials weigh possibility coronavirus escaped from a Chinese lab

WASHINGTON — Although the the U.S. intelligence community early on dismissed the notion that the coronavirus is a synthesized bioweapon, it is still weighing the possibility that the pandemic might have been touched off by an accident at a research facility rather than by an infection from a live-animal market, according to nine current and former intelligence and national security officials familiar with ongoing investigations.

After extensive research, scientists in the U.S. and elsewhere have determined that the new strain of the coronavirus discovered in China in December is, as Chinese officials have maintained, of natural origin, but they are taking seriously that its route to human infection may have started in a lab in Wuhan.

“It’s definitely a real possibility being bandied about at the high levels of the administration,” said one of the sources, who has knowledge of China and national security.

A technician works to produce vaccines for the H1N1 flu virus at a lab in Wuhan, China, in June 2009. (Reuters/China Daily)
“We are actively and vigorously tracking down every piece of information we get on this topic and we are writing frequently to update policymakers,” an intelligence official told Yahoo News. The intelligence community “has not come down on any one theory.”


https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/inte...rus-escaped-from-a-chinese-lab-194958353.html

Who is your source other than Yahoo?

 

[Lanny]

Sources believe coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab as part of China's efforts to compete with US


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources


Explore the Fox News apps that are right for you at http://www.foxnews.com/apps-products/index.html.

Do you have a source other than Yahoo and Fox News?

 

[Lanny]

Has nothing to do with Trump fans. New York Times and other various news outlets care about this as well.

Don’t you want to know if China purposely did this?

Show me the NY Times link not Yahoo and Fox News which are in a category of their own.

 

[julius]

Anything to try to distract people.

When they got Saddam Hussein, they didn't make an announcement for a press conference the next day. They announced it right away.

Same with OBL.

If you are making a big announcement, and you have enough time to schedule a press conference for the next day, it's not a big announcement. It's a planned propaganda piece.

 

[yankeesince59]

Still laughing at why anyone would believe that China purposely created a virus that would also put their economy in the shitter.

 

[julius]

Still laughing at why anyone would believe that China purposely created a virus that would also put their economy in the shitter.

Because they wanted to get back at Trump and make him look bad!!!

Though I suspect the argument isn't so much they did it on purpose as much as it was created there (as a bio-weapon potentially) and accidentally was released.

Cause you know, Uncle Bubba on the youtubes knows more about the real stuff than some dumb scientist who is a part of the deep state!

 

[yankeesince59]

Because they wanted to get back at Trump and make him look bad!!!

Though I suspect the argument isn't so much they did it on purpose as much as it was created there (as a bio-weapon potentially) and accidentally was released.

Cause you know, Uncle Bubba on the youtubes knows more about the real stuff than some dumb scientist who is a part of the deep state!

Here's the thing about the possibility of China creating this virus purposely as a bioweapon, it would seem to me that if they created the virus, they'd also have a vaccine.

Of course it is possible that it was an experiment terribly gone bad...or it truly did originate in animals.

...not sure that we'll ever know for certain.

 

[julius]

Here's the thing about the possibility of China creating this virus purposely as a bioweapon, it would seem to me that if they created the virus, they'd also have a vaccine.

Of course it is possible that it was an experiment terribly gone bad...or it truly did originate in animals.

...not sure that we'll ever know for certain.

I don't doubt for a second that there are bio-weapons being created by nations (including our own) to have an outcome similar to this. But like you, I really doubt they wouldn't have some kind of vaccine in the works for their own.

How difficult would it be for China (or whoever "created" this) to all the sudden "find" a vaccine and become the hero of all of this?

 

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Here's the thing about the possibility of China creating this virus purposely as a bioweapon, it would seem to me that if they created the virus, they'd also have a vaccine.

Of course it is possible that it was an experiment terribly gone bad...or it truly did originate in animals.

...not sure that we'll ever know for certain.

Its like a controlled burn. They will let it burn as long as they need it to. Until the economy of the west is fucked sufficiently. They can get hurt as well, but their fundamentals are stronger so they will survive.

China will kill their own people if it serves their greater good.

 

[riverman]

Its like a controlled burn. They will let it burn as long as they need it to. Until the economy of the west is fucked sufficiently. They can get hurt as well, but their fundamentals are stronger so they will survive.

China will kill their own people if it serves their greater good.

This is simply not true....China can't feed itself and needs international trade to maintain as it is....they saber rattle everytime there's a protest in Hong Kong or Taiwan elects a new president...Tsai Ing Wen just got reelected in Taiwan and our navy is patrolling the waters around Taiwan...China imports drinking water, soybeans and rice......sanctions and they turn quickly into a desert...hungry Chinese always revolt against the govt..China is hurting as badly as any country in the world and thinking this is a clever ploy by them is ridiculous....they didn't want a trade war, that's Trump's game plan....his trade war backfired for the entire planet...NO DIPLOMACY JUST BLUSTERED SPIN for a tiny bump in his ratings that died quickly

 

[yankeesince59]

I don't doubt for a second that there are bio-weapons being created by nations (including our own) to have an outcome similar to this. But like you, I really doubt they wouldn't have some kind of vaccine in the works for their own.
How difficult would it be for China (or whoever "created" this) to all the sudden "find" a vaccine and become the hero of all of this?

That's a very valid question, and a distinct possibility, and to be honest, one that I had not considered.

 

[yankeesince59]

This is simply not true....China can't feed itself and needs international trade to maintain as it is....they saber rattle everytime there's a protest in Hong Kong or Taiwan elects a new president...Tsai Ing Wen just got reelected in Taiwan and our navy is patrolling the waters around Taiwan...China imports drinking water, soybeans and rice......sanctions and they turn quickly into a desert...hungry Chinese always revolt against the govt..China is hurting as badly as any country in the world and thinking this is a clever ploy by them is ridiculous....they didn't want a trade war, that's Trump's game plan....his trade war backfired for the entire planet...NO DIPLOMACY JUST BLUSTERED SPIN for a tiny bump in his ratings that died quickly

^^^This.

 

[julius]

This is simply not true....China can't feed itself and needs international trade to maintain as it is....they saber rattle everytime there's a protest in Hong Kong or Taiwan elects a new president...Tsai Ing Wen just got reelected in Taiwan and our navy is patrolling the waters around Taiwan...China imports drinking water, soybeans and rice......sanctions and they turn quickly into a desert...hungry Chinese always revolt against the govt..China is hurting as badly as any country in the world and thinking this is a clever ploy by them is ridiculous....they didn't want a trade war, that's Trump's game plan....his trade war backfired for the entire planet...NO DIPLOMACY JUST BLUSTERED SPIN for a tiny bump in his ratings that died quickly

Don't bother bringing facts into a conspiracy argument.

 

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This is simply not true....China can't feed itself and needs international trade to maintain as it is....they saber rattle everytime there's a protest in Hong Kong or Taiwan elects a new president...Tsai Ing Wen just got reelected in Taiwan and our navy is patrolling the waters around Taiwan...China imports drinking water, soybeans and rice......sanctions and they turn quickly into a desert...hungry Chinese always revolt against the govt..China is hurting as badly as any country in the world and thinking this is a clever ploy by them is ridiculous....they didn't want a trade war, that's Trump's game plan....his trade war backfired for the entire planet...NO DIPLOMACY JUST BLUSTERED SPIN for a tiny bump in his ratings that died quickly

China owns Hong Kong now. They are expanding their borders by building land out in the South China Seas. They are solidifying their ownership of Africa and South America's natural resources. They are a multi-headed beast hell bent on becoming the next great superpower.

So people can't eat? They don't give a shit.

They will violate every human rights violation and won't bat an eye about it.