China to Cap CO2 Emmissions, Too

[PapaG]

Suck it, Deniers!

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/06/03/uk-china-climatechange-idINKBN0EE0KB20140603

(Reuters) - China said on Tuesday it will set an absolute cap on its CO2 emissions from 2016 just a day after the United States announced new targets for its power sector, signalling a potential breakthrough in tough U.N. climate talks.

Progress in global climate negotiations has often been held back by a deep split between rich and poor nations, led by the United States and China, respectively, over who should step up their game to reduce emissions. But the fact that the two biggest emitters of greenhouse gases made unprecedented announcements on climate within 24 hours of each other sparked optimism among observers hoping to see the decades-old deadlock broken. The steps come ahead of a global meet on climate change starting on Wednesday in Germany.

China, the world's biggest emitter, will set a total cap on its CO2 emissions when its next five-year plan comes into force in 2016, He Jiankun, chairman of China's Advisory Committee on Climate Change, told a conference in Beijing.

Carbon emissions in the coal-reliant economy are likely to continue to grow until 2030, but setting an absolute cap instead of pegging them to the level of economic growth means they will be more tightly regulated and not spiral out of control.

"The Chinese announcement marks potentially the most important turning point in the global scene on climate change for a decade," said Michael Grubb, a professor of international energy and climate policy at University College London.

It is not clear at what level the cap would be set, and a final number is unlikely to be released until China has worked out more details of the five-year plan, possibly sometime next year.

The announcement comes a day after the United States, the world's second-biggest emitter, for the first time announced plans to rein in carbon emissions from its power sector, a move the Obama administration hopes can inject ambition into the slow-moving international climate negotiations.

"The China-US one is a key trust relationship (in climate talks) and if they are rising above that it sends a very powerful signal to the rest of the world to get serious," said John Connor, CEO of Melbourne-based The Climate Institute.

TALKS IN BONN

Focus will now turn to Bonn in Germany, where negotiators from over 190 nations meet from Wednesday for the latest 10-day round of talks in a process meant to lead to a new global climate treaty in Paris in December 2015.

 

[PapaG]

This is great news, right?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/03/china-pledges-limit-carbon-emissions

He Jiankun, chairman of China’s Advisory Committee on Climate Change, told a conference in Beijing on Tuesday that an absolute cap on carbon emissions will be introduced. “The government will use two ways to control CO2 emissions in the next five-year plan, by intensity and an absolute cap.”

 

[PapaG]

USA Today confirms.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/06/03/china-climate-change-unfccc/9904937/

One day after the United States said it would slash carbon emissions from existing power plants by 30% below 2005 levels, China, the world's largest emitter of greenhouse gases, said it would set an absolute cap on its emissions by 2016.

The announcement comes ahead of the start of U.N.-sponsored climate talks in Bonn, Germany, on Wednesday. The steps being taken by the world's top two polluters are important announcements that signal positive steps in addressing the planet's changing climate, Christiana Figueres, the U.N.'s top climate official, told USA TODAY on Tuesday.

However, she cautioned, "We need ever higher ambition by all nations in the run-up to the U.N. climate convention meeting in Paris in 2015 — ambition that can match emission reductions and support for adaptation in vulnerable countries and communities with the sobering scientific reality."

 

[3RA1N1AC]

surprising

 

[MarAzul]

This is great news, right?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/03/china-pledges-limit-carbon-emissions

Golly, this is wonderful. China who has by far the most emissions, bigger than the US and EU combined will set the cap.
Did I miss what the Cap will be? I could not find it.

 

[MarAzul]

If you add in Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan with China, then China is as big on emissions as the next three combined.

The cap maybe huge!

 

[BlazerWookee]

I just hope they curl the brim. Caps with flat brims just look stupid.

 

[Stevenson]

Sorry conservatives, but Paul Krugman predicted this. Yesterday in fact.

 

[Denny Crane]

Sorry conservatives, but Paul Krugman predicted this. Yesterday in fact.

What brilliance on his part to predict that yesterday.

USA Today reported it three days ago.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/06/03/china-climate-change-unfccc/9904937/

You go, Paul.

I mean, please go.

 

[Stevenson]

Touche!

 

[Denny Crane]

USA Today for the win. Again!

 

[jlprk]

This is all new to me. You conservatives know more about gas than you let on.

 

[PapaG]

Sorry conservatives, but Paul Krugman predicted this. Yesterday in fact.

FYI, the guy from China who said it isn't employed by the Chinese government. LOL

I posted this thread because of the "major" news outlets who actually thought the Chinese government agreed to do this.

Kick that football, Charlie Brown!

“It’s not the case that the Chinese government has made any decision. This is a suggestion from experts, because now they are exploring how emissions can be controlled in the 13th Five Year Plan…. This is a view of experts; that’s not saying it’s the government’s. I’m not a government official and I don’t represent the government.”

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[jlprk]

You were the one who fell for it and started the thread. Whenever you are proven wrong, you move the goalposts in a sleight-of-hand, and pretend that someone besides yourself got Charlie Browned.

 

[PapaG]

You were the one who fell for it and started the thread. Whenever you are proven wrong, you move the goalposts in a sleight-of-hand, and pretend that someone besides yourself got Charlie Browned.

Here is where I got the source material. How stupid is Paul Krugman?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/06/climate-fantasy-watch-part-1.php

 

[MARIS61]

In other news, Japan flatly refuses to cap nuclear emissions, both gaseous and liquid.

 

[MARIS61]

This is all new to me. You conservatives know more about gas than you let on.

I thought I smelled something...

 

[Denny Crane]

I thought I smelled something...

Try taking a shower

 

[BlazerWookee]

Touche!

It's spelled "Douche."

Just sayin'...

 

[RR7]

FYI, the guy from China who said it isn't employed by the Chinese government. LOL

I posted this thread because of the "major" news outlets who actually thought the Chinese government agreed to do this.

Kick that football, Charlie Brown!



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So you knew it was false, you say, but waited until it was revealed as false before stating such, instead of making that comment in your original posts?

 

[PapaG]

So you knew it was false, you say, but waited until it was revealed as false before stating such, instead of making that comment in your original posts?

Yes, I did. I almost posted the "reveal" after MarAzul's post, but figured I'd see how many more would fall for it. Why else would I bump this thread?

Also, look at the date on the Powerline link. That should be a big clue, considering I linked to sources from that article after it was posted.

It's hard for the far left to fathom that people to the right of Bernie Sanders actually have some intelligence, too, and it's probably best to keep it simple and just assume we're all idiots.