China's gonna take us over...

[Denny Crane]

and not a fan of subsidies i take it? me neither.

No, not a fan of the subsidies.

I'd love solar power if it made sense beyond wishful thinking.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I'd love solar power if it made sense beyond wishful thinking.

thats where the innovation comes in, USA USA USA

 

[Denny Crane]

thats where the innovation comes in, USA USA USA

If there were money to be made at it, you'd have a Rockefeller or Carnegie or JP Morgan or Charles Schwab (or Bill Gates, etc.) famous for making $billions off it. Innovators.

I mean $billions from consumers, not from govt. handouts and otherwise bilking the people.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

do you think america will still be lighting things on fire to boil water for steam power in 30 years? 50 years?

 

[Denny Crane]

do you think america will still be lighting things on fire to boil water for steam power in 30 years? 50 years?

In 200 years.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

In 200 years.

That's depressing, and I ain't all about that today!

 

[Denny Crane]

That's depressing, and I ain't all about that today!

You asked

So if there were some big bully nation that was the only superpower in the world, say 1/3 of the world's economy, and you wanted to put it down, what would you do?

The cost of dealing with global warming would bankrupt us. That's one way.

Investing in something that costs $2 to make but generates $1 in value is another.

Anti-capitalism. Read about it at all? It's not all that fringe.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I'm hip bro, we don't see eye to eye on the underlying issue is all.

All smiles today!

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm hip bro, we don't see eye to eye on the underlying issue is all.

All smiles today!

Go Blazers!

 

[jlprk]

Fracking. They knew how to do it in the 70s, maybe earlier. It wasn't cost effective, like... Solar. Now it is and we are becoming energy independent.

Solar isn't a big thing at all. Huge investments already. Subsidies. A nuclear power plant costs $4B. California spent more than that in subsidies for solar last year. For less power.

How many billions were spent on fracking research to prepare it to become cost-effective?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

China is going to fall long and hard in the coming decades.

 

[Denny Crane]

How many billions were spent on fracking research to prepare it to become cost-effective?

$0.

Oil floats on water.

 

[riverman]

China is going to fall long and hard in the coming decades.

This could very well be true. I've traveled through China twice and it's barely controlled chaos. The Taiwanese have a saying that the mainland Chinese are capable of building things really quickly that they cannot maintain. China is quickly turning into a desert. The acid rain there is horrible and people from province to province can't even speak Mandarin I see China as the former USSR eventually splintering into several small countries. They also have done a horrible job making friends out of their bordering nations. On a trip to Mongolia from China they had to stop the trains, hoist them up and change the wheels because the rails are different sizes in China from the Trans Siberian railroad. How many Chinese does it take to change a light bulb? None, they just throw away the lamp and buy a new one.

 

[maxiep]

until the next republican takes office then RIGHT BACK ON THE FREEDOM TRAIN

They're no better than the Democrats. Just different cronies.

 

[maxiep]

but, americans are good at umm... innovation! we are gonna put our 37th ranked educated minds together and innovate a way to make china poor again, dont worry

Formal education and innovation are not necesarily related to one another. However, we do have a culture of risk-taking that has historically rewarded an entrepreneurial spirit. Right now, sadly, that's being crushed under the weight of regulation.

 

[maxiep]

well some innovation is stupid, like solar

if god wanted us to use solar he would have buried the sun in the ground

All I ask is that innovation be exposed to market forces. If solar were competitive, then I'd be all for it.