Chris Sheridan says Wiz will likely do Blake/Outlaw for Haywood at last minute

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Evan (Portland, OR)

The Wizards are greedy. Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake should be more than enough to bring Haywood to Portland. On top of more cap relief, those two players fill needs for Washington. What gives?
Chris Sheridan (3:34 PM)

Washington wants Rudy Fernandez in a Haywood deal, and the Blazers haven't been willing to trade Rudy because owner Paul Allen thinks he'll be an All-Star one day. But if it gets to the 11th hour and all the Wiz can get is Blake/Outlaw, I think they'd probably do it.

Game 95.5 also reporting it. Do you do it? I say 1000% YES

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

And we'd gladly accept!!

 

[Nikolokolus]

It also sounds like the Heat and Charlotte might be trying to put something together for Haywood; if they up the ante enough to best a Blake+Outlaw package then you can bet your bottom dollar Haywood will be going somewhere else.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Evan (Portland, OR)

The Wizards are greedy. Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake should be more than enough to bring Haywood to Portland. On top of more cap relief, those two players fill needs for Washington. What gives?
Chris Sheridan (3:34 PM)

Washington wants Rudy Fernandez in a Haywood deal, and the Blazers haven't been willing to trade Rudy because owner Paul Allen thinks he'll be an All-Star one day. But if it gets to the 11th hour and all the Wiz can get is Blake/Outlaw, I think they'd probably do it.

Game 95.5 also reporting it. Do you do it? I say 1000% YES

Can we make it Webster and Blake instead of Outlaw?

 

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Travis (Portland)

Do the Blazers make a move before the dealine?
Chad Ford (1:33 PM)

Not a big one. I think they'll see what a package of Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw gets them. But it sounds like they aren't moving Batum, Fernandez or Bayless.


After watching the Blazers play against the Lakers, it seems like they definitely need a center ASAP. Do you have any updates on Blazers and their search for a Center?
John Hollinger (2:12 PM)

They're working on it. The problem is that everybody wants them to give up Fernandez, Bayless or Batum, and that's not happening. Blazers will only make a deal if it involves some combo of Blake, Outlaw and spare parts/picks.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Isn't Haywood an expiring contract too. What does the Wiz (who aren't making the playoffs)get out of a trade of Outlaw and Blake for Haywood?

 

[toutlaw25]

What is the point of trading for Haywood if he is expiring? Then next year if we resign him we have 3 centers? Seems pretty short sighted and stupid, but maybe I'm missing the bigger picture. We may not even make the playoffs this year, why do this?

 

[MIXUM]

blake has an option lol?

thats a good question unless we are giving a pick back?

 

[MIXUM]

getting haywood ensures we get in

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Isn't Haywood an expiring contract too. What does the Wiz (who aren't making the playoffs)get out of a trade of Outlaw and Blake for Haywood?

3 million dollars.....

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Isn't Haywood an expiring contract too. What does the Wiz (who aren't making the playoffs)get out of a trade of Outlaw and Blake for Haywood?

EXACTLY.

(Except... If Portland threw in $3M, then I think Washington would be interested.)

HOWEVER, I don't think Outlaw gets traded. I wouldn't trade him for Haywood, who is overrated and who got into a fight with his own teammate. Trading the most popular player on the team for a player who doesn't get on with teammates would be more of a Whitsitt move.

Aren't people a little bit concerned that Haywood has for years been labeled as a chronic softie underachiever? Don't people remember the (predictably misogynistic and sophomoric, but you get the implication) label of "Brenda" that he has had since UNC? Or are we just happy to have ANY half-decent 7-footer on rental till the offseason?

 

[RoyToy]

Hope it's true, but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If we're trading with the Wizards for a seven-footer, quite frankly I'd rather have Oberto.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Oberto is 6'9"

BTW

 

[hasoos]

EXACTLY.

(Except... If Portland threw in $3M, then I think Washington would be interested.)

HOWEVER, I don't think Outlaw gets traded. I wouldn't trade him for Haywood, who is overrated and who got into a fight with his own teammate. Trading the most popular player on the team for a player who doesn't get on with teammates would be more of a Whitsitt move.

Aren't people a little bit concerned that Haywood has for years been labeled as a chronic softie underachiever? Don't people remember the (predictably misogynistic and sophomoric, but you get the implication) label of "Brenda" that he has had since UNC? Or are we just happy to have ANY half-decent 7-footer on rental till the offseason?

Actually it was Etan Thomas who kept getting in fights, he just happened to get into them with Haywood. You will note, Thomas was traded, not Haywood.

 

[bintim]

Remember Travis is Brandon's best bud.

 

[hasoos]

If we're trading with the Wizards for a seven-footer, quite frankly I'd rather have Oberto.

I am sure glad you posted that, just in case somebody had forgotten how bad of a GM you would be.

 

[Kaydow]

getting haywood ensures we get in

I'm not sure about that. Haywood has averaged double figures in points ONCE in his carreer, and rebounds ZERO. Before this year, the most boards he ever grabbed were 7.4 We're not talking about a rebounding machine here. His career average for defensive rebounds a game is 3.5. Is he better than anything we have? Yeah. But he's not going to be this great rebounding/shot block pressence some may be thinking. He's not Greg, he's not even Joel.

I'd give Blake/Outlaw for his services for a few months. But I'm not expecting him to average 10 boards/2 blocks here. I think he'd end up splitting minutes with Juwan. Juwan definately gives you more offensive flexibility - you have to respect his shooting range and that draws oposing bigs out of the paint. Of course Haywood would start and play more minutes, but I don't think he'd play 33 minutes/game like he currently is in Washington. Not to mention there will be nights when we go small with LA at the 5 based on matchups.

 

[hasoos]

I'm not sure about that. Haywood has averaged double figures in points ONCE in his carreer, and rebounds ZERO. Before this year, the most boards he ever grabbed were 7.4 We're not talking about a rebounding machine here. His career average for defensive rebounds a game is 3.5. Is he better than anything we have? Yeah. But he's not going to be this great rebounding/shot block pressence some may be thinking. He's not Greg, he's not even Joel.

I'd give Blake/Outlaw for his services for a few months. But I'm not expecting him to average 10 boards/2 blocks here. I think he'd end up splitting minutes with Juwan. Juwan definately gives you more offensive flexibility - you have to respect his shooting range and that draws oposing bigs out of the paint. Of course Haywood would start and play more minutes, but I don't think he'd play 33 minutes/game like he currently is in Washington. Not to mention there will be nights when we go small with LA at the 5 based on matchups.

You don't have to be. He is only on the books until the end of the year. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, it's not much different situation then we are in now. It is basically the same as now, minus Blake and Outlaw who can't even suit up anyhow.

 

[RagingBull04]

I think Haywood's contract value is 6 mil and Blake and Outlaw is 7.6. They actually gain 1.6 in cap relief by doing it. Whether or not that is enough for them to close the deal, I don't know. But that plus 3 mil in cash could persuade them.

 

[RagingBull04]

You don't have to be. He is only on the books until the end of the year. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, it's not much different situation then we are in now. It is basically the same as now, minus Blake and Outlaw who can't even suit up anyhow.

We can even resign Blakey and Outlaw to a contract if we want too if it doesn't work out.

 

[Minstrel]

Aren't people a little bit concerned that Haywood has for years been labeled as a chronic softie underachiever? Don't people remember the (predictably misogynistic and sophomoric, but you get the implication) label of "Brenda" that he has had since UNC? Or are we just happy to have ANY half-decent 7-footer on rental till the offseason?

I don't care that he's been labeled an "underachiever," because Portland wouldn't be paying based on what people thought he could be when he entered the league. They'll be paying for what he actually does achieve...whether that is under what he could do if more motivated is irrelevant, really. Maybe Outlaw or Blake could be even more than what they are. Maybe LeBron James could be. What matters is what they actually produce and that they're paid/paid for appropriately (in salary or in trade value).

The same thing goes for him being "soft." His rebounding and defense is what it is. Maybe if he were "tougher," he could be better at those things. But as long as Portland pays based on his actual defense and rebounding, that's fine.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Oberto is 6'9"

BTW

He's also less productive and more highly paid than Juwan Howard.

Back in June he had the same ablation procedure on his heart that LaMarcus Aldridge had near the end of his rookie season. They could get together and compare scars. Other than that, I don't see any possible reason to trade for Oberto.

BNM

 

[Darkwebs]

This would be a great deal, therefore I don't think it'll happen.

 

[Nikolokolus]

He's also less productive and more highly paid than Juwan Howard.

Back in June he had the same ablation procedure on his heart that LaMarcus Aldridge had near the end of his rookie season. They could get together and compare scars. Other than that, I don't see any possible reason to trade for Oberto.

BNM

He's also foreign ... which pretty much fills out the reasons why Rasta wants him.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I'm not sure about that. Haywood has averaged double figures in points ONCE in his carreer, and rebounds ZERO. Before this year, the most boards he ever grabbed were 7.4 We're not talking about a rebounding machine here. His career average for defensive rebounds a game is 3.5. Is he better than anything we have? Yeah. But he's not going to be this great rebounding/shot block pressence some may be thinking. He's not Greg, he's not even Joel.

Many NBA big men don't hit their peak until late 20s early 30s. Which is where Haywood is now. At 9.7 PPG, 10.3 RPG and 2.1 BPG, he's definitely a better center than anyone healthy we have right now. His TRB% of 17.8 is significantly higher than anyone on our team outside of Greg and Joel. His 2.1 BPG gives us the indide defensive presence we currently lack.

This is a contract year for him, and he's having a career year in Washington despite all the distractions. I think he would be motivated to continue his current high level of performance through the end of the year - and hopefully into the play-offs where he will get even more national exposure. His future paycheck is at stake.

Assuming Roy is back and healthy after the all-star break, I think adding Haywood is enough to insure we make the play-offs this year. We might make the play-offs without him, but his added rebounding and interior defense will address two areas the Blazers have been lacking since we lost Oden and Przybilla.

We don't need Blake. We've gotten this far without Outlaw. With Batum back and Webster playing better, we don't need Outlaw at the 3, and with the addition of Haywood, Juwan Howard and Jeff Pendergraph can share the back-up center and PF minutes.

So yes, I'd be willing to give up Blake and Outlaw for a short term rental of Brendan Haywood - playing at a highly motivated career-best level. I'm conveinced it gets us to the play-offs, and might even give us a chance to advance - depending on the match-up. With no inside defensive presence, I don't see the Blazers geeting past the 1st round - regardless of the opponent if we don't make this trade. Adding Haywood wouldn't guarantee advancing, but at least it gives the Blazers a chance. Defense and rebounding win in the play-offs. Without a legitimate center, we don't stand a chance.

BNM

 

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Evan (Portland, OR)

The Wizards are greedy. Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake should be more than enough to bring Haywood to Portland. On top of more cap relief, those two players fill needs for Washington. What gives?
Chris Sheridan (3:34 PM)

Washington wants Rudy Fernandez in a Haywood deal, and the Blazers haven't been willing to trade Rudy because owner Paul Allen thinks he'll be an All-Star one day. But if it gets to the 11th hour and all the Wiz can get is Blake/Outlaw, I think they'd probably do it.

Game 95.5 also reporting it. Do you do it? I say 1000% YES

Great... Two things are going to happen:

1. They're not going to trade us Haywood for those two guys.

2. We're going to spend the next few months hearing about how this deal didn't go down because KP "refused to let go of Outlaw and Blake", just because Chris Sheridan said it could be done.

 

[illmatic99]

Remember Travis is Brandon's best bud.

This should be irrelevant, but it probably isn't.

 

[MickZagger]

About the only two players I'm willing to give up for Haywood and its still a push.

 

[hasoos]

About the only two players I'm willing to give up for Haywood and its still a push.

No need to fret. It is KP, it won't happen.