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[HailBlazers]

How can a referee prevent an injury?

That's right he/she simply cannot. They can only rule on what's happened not prevent it.

Please dispel with that notion.

By ensuring the rules are followed. You can prevent things from getting out of hand by taking action before they do. In a year where Rudy Tomjanovich was almost killed by a punch to the face from Kermit Washington, the NBA was quite rowdy.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Undercutting a shooter needs to be more consistently called; right now, like everything else, stars get away with too much. That move injured players.

 

[PDXFonz]

Undercutting a shooter needs to be more consistently called; right now, like everything else, stars get away with too much. That move injured players.

I agree 100%. Players need to realize how dangerous that can be and really make an effort not to do it. But you'll always have people like Kelly Olynyk who are out there trying to injure people...

 

[theprunetang]

Few seconds!!??


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You are right hcp. Thanks for the correction. I didn't mean to write "a few"seconds. It should have been a couple of nanoseconds. That is more accurate. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[dviss1]

By ensuring the rules are followed. You can prevent things from getting out of hand by taking action before they do. In a year where Rudy Tomjanovich was almost killed by a punch to the face from Kermit Washington, the NBA was quite rowdy.

Frankly you don't Have a clue of what you're talking about.

Did that no fighting rule prevent the malice in the palace? Those rules exist and yes as a referee you must administer them without bias. However you can't prevent shit. You can't prevent one thing from happening. Referees can't cause players to get injured unless they make contact.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Frankly you don't Have a clue of what you're talking about.

Did that no fighting rule prevent the malice in the palace? Those rules exist and yes as a referee you must administer them without bias. However you can't prevent shit. You can't prevent one thing from happening. Referees can't cause players to get injured unless they make contact.

I disagree somewhat, the last game against Houston it looked like Beverly was trying to hurt or provoke Lillard. He was out of control and that first hard foul should have been a flagrant. The refs let Houston get way too physical.

 

[BBert]

I disagree somewhat, the last game against Houston it looked like Beverly was trying to hurt or provoke Lillard. He was out of control and that first hard foul should have been a flagrant. The refs let Houston get way too physical.

That was in no way shape or form a basketball play. Beverly ran into Dame with a forearm shiver. Ridiculous.

 

[theprunetang]

That was in no way shape or form a basketball play. Beverly ran into Dame with a forearm shiver. Ridiculous.

Yep. That was a hockey play. Straight up no place for that in the game of basketball.

 

[dviss1]

Undercutting a shooter needs to be more consistently called; right now, like everything else, stars get away with too much. That move injured players.

Oh, there's a reason why it's not called. Coincidentally, it's the exact same reason why that ref called Harden's flop against Wesley (the one where he literally wasn't TOUCHED and he fish flopped on the ground holding his face like a bitch).

NBA refs are spectators. They like to see the shots, moves, dribbles, and dunks just like we do. The problem with that is you get caught up watching and forget to referee.

There is a cardinal rule that can catch 100% of these instances that must be followed:

Stay with the shooter. It's that fucking simple.

It's as simple as Dick and Jane.

See shooter jump (that's also the same time you determine if the shot is a 3 pointer). See shooter release. See shooter land. This takes less than 2.5 seconds.

Once that is done THEN you look (not at the shot) for pushes in the back on rebounds. Seeing the shot go in should only be a consequence of you looking for pushes in the back.

NBA referees are too busy looking at the shot going in.

 

[BBert]

Yep. That was a hockey play. Straight up no place for that in the game of basketball.

That's exactly what I thought of when I saw it: a hockey play by a hockey goon. The fact the refs didn't call the flagrant is F'ing ridiculous. The refs just invited more of the same, and worse. Just asking for someone to get hurt.

 

[riverman]

How can a referee prevent an injury?

That's right he/she simply cannot. They can only rule on what's happened not prevent it.

Please dispel with that notion.

Offhand I'd say by stopping a fight before it gets out of hand

 

[stampedehero]

This I LIKE!

 

[dviss1]

I disagree somewhat, the last game against Houston it looked like Beverly was trying to hurt or provoke Lillard. He was out of control and that first hard foul should have been a flagrant. The refs let Houston get way too physical.

There was nothing flagrant about that foul and as a matter of fact what the nba refers to as flagrant is pretty abhorrent. My point still stands. Can you go into Minority Report mode and prevent Beverly from committing that foul? Lillard got his whistle didn't he? The only thing the referee can do is assess what's already happened correctly. Whether or not you call it a flagrant or a common you still cannot prevent it from happening.

 

[dviss1]

Offhand I'd say by stopping a fight before it gets out of hand

I've done this many times. I was refereeing a Jesuit varsity boys vs Cleveland varsity boys and stopped two fights before they happened. Sure you can prevent a fight. A good Ref better do that. Preventing a foul though, that's not possible.

 

[riverman]

I've done this many times. I was refereeing a Jesuit varsity boys vs Cleveland varsity boys and stopped two fights before they happened. Sure you can prevent a fight. A good Ref better do that. Preventing a foul though, that's not possible.

But in a way if you T up a guy for a rough foul, you sort of make him think about hurting anyone if he wants to stay in the game

 

[dviss1]

But in a way if you T up a guy for a rough foul, you sort of make him think about hurting anyone if he wants to stay in the game

A rough foul is not a T. Only unsporting fouls are.

Let's say it was unsporting though. Did we prevent the foul?

 

[riverman]

A rough foul is not a T. Only unsporting fouls are.

Let's say it was unsporting though. Did we prevent the foul?

In the scope of the unknown..you may have diffused a situation that could escalate so there's no way to know for sure but it seems to me it has to have an effect on the player moving forward

 

[dviss1]

In the scope of the unknown..you may have diffused a situation that could escalate so there's no way to know for sure but it seems to me it has to have an effect on the player moving forward

That may be true. However, we did not prevent the unsporting foul from happening. We only assessed the damage after it occurred.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

What time is this supposed to start

 

[HailBlazers]

That may be true. However, we did not prevent the unsporting foul from happening. We only assessed the damage after it occurred.

You've never warned two players to cool it before?

 

[KingSpeed]

What time is this supposed to start

Now! Go to the other thread.

 

[dviss1]

You've never warned two players to cool it before?

Preventing a fight is a completely different thing than preventing a foul or preventing an injury. Stay on topic guys.

 

[HailBlazers]

Preventing a fight is a completely different thing than preventing a foul or preventing an injury. Stay on topic guys.

Lol okay man. You're right.

 

[riverman]

A rough foul is not a T. Only unsporting fouls are.

Let's say it was unsporting though. Did we prevent the foul?

now you've lost me....a technical foul often resorts from a rough foul...clotheslining somebody...etc...I guess rough to me is unsporting..I think you misunderstood my use of "rough"

 

[dviss1]

now you've lost me....a technical foul often resorts from a rough foul...clotheslining somebody...etc...I guess rough to me is unsporting..I think you misunderstood my use of "rough"

This whole talk started on this comment:

refs let our whole championship team get injured,