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Sweetriverphil said:
Before I read this thread I assumed the Blazers would be fine without CJ for one game. After reading this thread I think I'm going to go stock up on food supplies and bibles.
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Ok i get the joke but letting Briscoe go is a travesty
 
Had this happened the last playoff game, he still wouldn't serve the suspension til the next REGULAR season game. It's the rules. Off-season drug busts..... regular season, doesn't matter.
 
julius said:
Here's the thing, what if he was going to grab a teammate as he was about to swing?

Or go after a fan?

All they have to do is step on the court, even if it's by accident, and it's a suspension. It's not black or white.
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Why bring race into this?


Seriously, it IS black and white, and it should be. No reason to leave it to interpretation
 
HCP said:
Had this happened the last playoff game, he still wouldn't serve the suspension til the next REGULAR season game. It's the rules. Off-season drug busts..... regular season, doesn't matter.
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You and I know for a FACT that if Lebron tested positive for drugs he wouldn't be suspended
 
Blazer4ever said:
Whatever, you know I'm right.
Turner is a good ball handler FOR A SF. Like Batum was. You'd have Batum playing PG? A center can be a relatively good ball handler, you'd have him play backup PG?
If Turner plays SF, we have a good ball handler at SF. If he plays SG we have a below average ball handler at SG.
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In theory I have to agree with what you said here....because I have said it numerous times myself. (except the part about ET being horrible) But Bledsoe will make things difficult if he guards ET. But then again he has made Dame and CJ look bad at times as well. (when he dials up the pressure) And I guarantee he would have made Briscoe look bad too in his very first game in the NBA. If Stotts even thought about playing him....which he wouldn't have because he is not ready. Cutting Briscoe was hardly a travesty. How many minutes did he even play against non scrubs in preseason? And you expect him to be a factor in his very first game?

Do we know for sure if Napier is out for game one?
 
Blazer4ever said:
Whatever, you know I'm right.
Turner is a good ball handler FOR A SF. Like Batum was. You'd have Batum playing PG? A center can be a relatively good ball handler, you'd have him play backup PG?
If Turner plays SF, we have a good ball handler at SF. If he plays SG we have a below average ball handler at SG. If he plays PG, we have an awful PG
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Turner is not a below average ball handler for a SG...
So by your logic, none of the following are SGs???
Wesley Matthews, Klay Thompson, Devin Booker, Buddy Hield, JJ Redick, Danny Green, Victor Oladipo, etc.
ET is a better ball handler than all of those guys.

There's much more that goes into positions and roles than that, however, the NBA is becoming positionless. What matters most is that the players on the court at any given time have skillsets that compliment each other, and have chemistry.

#LTGTP
 
I don't understand the logic...

Turner is the best ball handler outside of Dame and CJ.. If anyone's game is fit to be a SF, it's Comnaughton, but he's too small.
 
No, if it was up to me we'd still have a reliable backup PG. and Warren Gillis BTW is also a PG. T-Rob I wouldn't even want starting but could give us great firepower of the bench and inside play and who else is on the team, a healthy Oden? He'd be an all=star.
I'm not saying Briscoe is as good as Dame or CJ, but a team has to have all sorts of players and he was supposed to have an important role as backup guard.
Turner to answer your response would be exactly a below average ball handler for a SG like I think can be understood from your argument as well and playing him at guard is wasting his talent and setting him up to fail. Exactly why he and Crabbe had awful plus-minus numbers last year
 
BonesJones said:
Because the punishment doesn't fit the "crime".
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Meh. EVERY player knows the punishment for the crime though. It's like if you knew 100% of the time....unless if course you're Lebron, you would get shot for jaywalking, you wouldn't do it.

Academy, or whatever sporting goods store you know, has know knowledge of my intent when I buy a gun. The NBA is just saying "you can't buy a gun....PERIOD. If you do, there will be a harsh penalty.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Actually 2. the thread creation and this one, but who's counting. I'm just sayin' it helps to know the facts if you want to be taken seriously.
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Blazer4ever said:
No, if it was up to me we'd still have a reliable backup PG. and Warren Gillis BTW is also a PG. T-Rob I wouldn't even want starting but could give us great firepower of the bench and inside play and who else is on the team, a healthy Oden? He'd be an all=star.
I'm not saying Briscoe is as good as Dame or CJ, but a team has to have all sorts of players and he was supposed to have an important role as backup guard.
Turner to answer your response would be exactly a below average ball handler for a SG like I think can be understood from your argument as well and playing him at guard is wasting his talent and setting him up to fail. Exactly why he and Crabbe had awful plus-minus numbers last year
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You want a reliable backup PG but advocate us to pick up the must unreliable guys.
You were advocating us to get Oden in 2014..
How did him playing SG make him miss easy shots, which he still got? You didn't answer my question. Are all those players not SGs either??
 
Blazer4ever said:
T-Rob I wouldn't even want starting but could give us great firepower of the bench and inside play
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His "inside play" results in a 47FG% on all 2pointers with twice as many turnovers as assists.

An offense with a 94ORTG and twice as many turnovers as assists would be historically bad... And that's the level that Robinson produces at. So what are you talking about with "firepower inside"?
 
Blazer4ever said:
No, if it was up to me we'd still have a reliable backup PG. and Warren Gillis BTW is also a PG. T-Rob I wouldn't even want starting but could give us great firepower of the bench and inside play and who else is on the team, a healthy Oden? He'd be an all=star.
I'm not saying Briscoe is as good as Dame or CJ, but a team has to have all sorts of players and he was supposed to have an important role as backup guard.
Turner to answer your response would be exactly a below average ball handler for a SG like I think can be understood from your argument as well and playing him at guard is wasting his talent and setting him up to fail. Exactly why he and Crabbe had awful plus-minus numbers last year
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Take the position out of the equation.
Who on the team has the best handles top to bottom? I'd list them like this:

CJ(6'3)
Dame(6'3)
ET(6'7)

(big drop off)

Napier(6'1)
Connaughton(6'5)
Layman(6'9)

(Big Drop OFF)

Harkless
Nurk
Swannigan
Aminu
Collins
Leonard
Davis

I'm not saying ET should start. I'm saying ET should run the Point more often than not when he is in. Evan Turner is not a starter, but he can become one hell of a 6th man if given consistency and stability with both what is expected of him and the minutes he plays.
His height and length changes our perimeter defense.

I would start Connaughton at SG and I still think thats as good as briscoe. We have plenty pof role players that arent stars. ANother isnt going to change this team. Its only going to take the roster spot that is open to get someone that WILL change this team.
And that's it in a nutshell.
NO has made alot of smaller aquisitions and built some depth. We dont need anymore of it. We need to consolidate for one more star.... and that's ONLY if we don't have one of our guys break out this year in ET, Hark, Swannigan, etc. If any one of these guys has a solid year and the others don't take a dive, we are closer than we think.
But I think the one thing you are forgetting is the cap situation. We have to consolidate in some way to get back under. In filling that spot now, tosses some handcuffs on NO for being able to operate towards the trade deadline. We don't need to spend money on another end of the bench player and that's what it comes down to.
 
T.Rob, Firepower?
He cant hit 60% FT shooting!!!!
He shots like 31-32% career 3pt%.

What firepower? He is a hustler and that gets him rebounds and once in a while put backs, but his per 36 only has him a career average of 10-11 ppg.

We have this in Swannigan, Davis, Shit. Ill even give that to Leonard.

What you continue to push or sell are lateral moves that don't make the team better. When there is minimal upgrade, then to make such a trade or acquisition is only a potential chemistry issue, both in personalities and minutes on the court.
So again. Whyu7 bring that potential drama for a lateral move?

There is a reason the guys you want on the team.. have not found a home on any team.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Nothing like what CJ did
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I tend to agree. CJ seems to feel like he should be given some slack because he doesn’t have a history of fighting. I don’t think the league can get into trying to judge intent. Maybe there should be a lighter penalty for a first time infraction if there’s no violence, but the league would have to change its policy. George could have been nailed for coming onto the court even a couple of steps, but they let it slide. CJ didn’t give them an opportunity for leniency because he came out too far.
 
e_blazer said:
I tend to agree. CJ seems to feel like he should be given some slack because he doesn’t have a history of fighting. I don’t think the league can get into trying to judge intent. Maybe there should be a lighter penalty for a first time infraction if there’s no violence, but the league would have to change its policy. George could have been nailed for coming onto the court even a couple of steps, but they let it slide. CJ didn’t give them an opportunity for leniency because he came out too far.
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But still, a rule is a rule. They showed leniency for Paul George. I am ok with the suspension, because it is the rule. I'm not ok with the rule being interpreted differently for different players/situations. CJ does have a bit of a case here.
 
theprunetang said:
But still, a rule is a rule. They showed leniency for Paul George. I am ok with the suspension, because it is the rule. I'm not ok with the rule being interpreted differently for different players/situations. CJ does have a bit of a case here.
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That was my whole point in the first place. Superstar players will get the exception. Players like CJ wont. Stupid that MM tries to tell me otherwise. Stars in the league have gotten exception in EVERY situation it seems
 
Blazer4ever said:
I don't want Turner fucking playing one minute in the backcourt because Olshey wanted cap flexibility and to keep the 15th spot open, for whatever logic that's supposed to be
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Not even if Olshey uses that 15th roster spot to sign Thomas Robinson?

BNM
 
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