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As far as our offense goes, I didn't notice much of a difference. We ran the same FLEX series we started the majority of games with last year, with a slight variation of having a double high post instead of one. It seems like a lot of teams run this initial flex screen because the defender of the screen must help off in the key and then when the initial screener gets the down pick from the opposite high post, they're not in a position to recover in time, and switching it wouldn't be an option because it would live a guard defending a post on the block.

The set plays ran for Batum appears to be the same plays ran for Roy last year where he could either come off two picks and flair to the corner, catch and shoot from the wing, or curl back to the lane depending on how the defender attacks the screen.
 
I know it's preseason, but just like in most every regular season game he has played in, Batum plays the fewest minutes of any starter. Why does this continue to happen? Matthews, Cunningham and Fernandez should not play more than him in any game unless he is hurt or in foul trouble.


Can someone explain why this cintinues to happen please?
 
Mediocre Man said:
I know it's preseason, but just like in most every regular season game he has played in, Batum plays the fewest minutes of any starter. Why does this continue to happen? Matthews, Cunningham and Fernandez should not play more than him in any game unless he is hurt or in foul trouble.


Can someone explain why this cintinues to happen please?
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Batum had a long summer and he's said during training camp that he's still alittle fatigued, I'd wager Nate will continue to keep his minutes down until the games start to count.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Well 1 out of 2 aint bad.

Let's not get carried away, We've yet to see Jerryd sustain good outside shooting for a whole season.
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I'm expecting Bayless to reach about 35/36ish percent from beyond the arc this year, he puts in so much time and he's got to have more confidence now than ever before coming in to the season 2nd on the depth chart with a strong playoff performance under his belt. We'll see though.
 
Jayps15 said:
Batum had a long summer and he's said during training camp that he's still alittle fatigued, I'd wager Nate will continue to keep his minutes down until the games start to count.
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Bullshit. Rudy had a long summer too. So did every player that put in extra work this offseason. I am tired of that excuse because it's the same one we hear every year. I would happily take that wager, by the way. Nate has proven that he does not play Nic the minutes he deserves.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Bullshit. Rudy had a long summer too. So did every player that put in extra work this offseason. I am tired of that excuse because it's the same one we hear every year. I would happily take that wager, by the way. Nate has proven that he does not play Nic the minutes he deserves.
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I have a feeling that if we are healthy on the wings and keep Rudy, Batum will average less than 30 minutes.
 
Jayps15 said:
I'm expecting Bayless to reach about 35/36ish percent from beyond the arc this year, he puts in so much time and he's got to have more confidence now than ever before coming in to the season 2nd on the depth chart with a strong playoff performance under his belt. We'll see though.
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If it was simply a matter of work almost every player in the NBA should be able to get their shooting percentages that high. Bayless' real trouble is that he was more of a set shot shooter at UofA from distance and his long range jumper has been pretty flat his first couple of years, maybe he'll get that sorted out, but players don't typically make huge strides with their shot unless they already possess good form and a nice stroke; adjusting to the NBA three becomes more about range finding and touch for those kind of players. I'm not saying Bayless can't do it, but the odds don't seem to be particularly favorable.
 
Nikolokolus said:
If it was simply a matter of work almost every player in the NBA should be able to get their shooting percentages that high. Bayless' real trouble is that he was more of a set shot shooter at UofA from distance and his long range jumper has been pretty flat his first couple of years, maybe he'll get that sorted out, but players don't typically make huge strides with their shot unless they already possess good form and a nice stroke; adjusting to the NBA three becomes more about range finding and touch for those kind of players. I'm not saying Bayless can't do it, but the odds don't seem to be particularly favorable.
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The weird thing for me is that Bayless gets the "Gym Rat" label. I can't recall of another player with that label that wasn't a good shooter. What does he work on alone in the gym if not shooting?
 
A 30-point win and still things to complain about. Some of you guys are a trip.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
The weird thing for me is that Bayless gets the "Gym Rat" label. I can't recall of another player with that label that wasn't a good shooter. What does he work on alone in the gym if not shooting?
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Team defense.

barfo
 
Mediocre Man said:
I know it's preseason, but just like in most every regular season game he has played in, Batum plays the fewest minutes of any starter. Why does this continue to happen? Matthews, Cunningham and Fernandez should not play more than him in any game unless he is hurt or in foul trouble.


Can someone explain why this cintinues to happen please?
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I am not really sure why you care so much about this in a pre season game. Pre season games are always used to look at the new talent/bubble guys to make decisions. The starting lineup is settled. Right now Nate is probably more concerned in getting them to the regular season in one piece than what he will do with them.
 
hasoos said:
I am not really sure why you care so much about this in a pre season game. Pre season games are always used to look at the new talent/bubble guys to make decisions. The starting lineup is settled. Right now Nate is probably more concerned in getting them to the regular season in one piece than what he will do with them.
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The reason I am concerned is because it's Nic's minutes every year that seem to get cut. Nic is probably our best all around player, so the fact that his minutes get cut now is a bad sign to me.
 
Never content around here. Had this been a tight regular season game, I'm sure Nic would have been out there more.
 
F the haters. We dominated a bad team, which is what good teams are supposed to do.
 
DAMN! That's about as Gangster a post as you've ever had on here. Well done.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I know it's preseason, but just like in most every regular season game he has played in, Batum plays the fewest minutes of any starter. Why does this continue to happen? Matthews, Cunningham and Fernandez should not play more than him in any game unless he is hurt or in foul trouble.

Can someone explain why this cintinues to happen please?
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#1: It's one game. I don't think it's fair to say it "continues to happen."
#2: It's preseason.
#3: It's a blowout.
#4: Getting Rudy involved is good for his emotional state and, potentially, for his trade value.

I don't see it as an issue, and I actually think it's a GOOD thing to treat him like a starter rather than (as with, say, Dante) a guy who needs minutes to improve.

Ed O.
 
Mediocre Man said:
The reason I am concerned is because it's Nic's minutes every year that seem to get cut. Nic is probably our best all around player, so the fact that his minutes get cut now is a bad sign to me.
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I know what you are saying. It's because Nic is young and more playing time = development for his game, and he looks like one of those guys that you just need to throw into the fire, let him get burned a bit, and he will come back a better player. I understand that. But when you are up by 40 in a meaningless game against the Clippers, and he missed half of last season with an injury, it is fine with me if he sits down.
 
HCP said:
DAMN! That's about as Gangster a post as you've ever had on here. Well done.
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I am wearing my prison blues baggy jeans and white leather Nikes today... I'm fucking pimp right now... for a fat white 30-year old.
 
Was at the game last night and thought I would post a few random thoughts:

I was sitting behind the Blazer bench (row J)

-Cho was out and about in our section shaking hands and talking to fans beofre the game

-MB was sitting behind me with his daughter (very cute), said Hi and started small talk with him

-Rudy got booed and cheered when coming into the game, Rudy's body language on the bench is not good, he isn't whine or sulking, but it is very much a whatever attitude (teammates slapping him on the back in a hang in there attitude) . . . maybe we don't care what he is thinking or feeling as long as he goes out and plays like last night

-Matthews looked good (but I'm sure this has been discussed)

-Joel was there and got screen time with some muched deserved recognition . . . I was sitting within ear shot of him and yelled we need him back

-Paul Allen was eating dibs in the third quater while sitting next to Cho and Miller . . . Paul looks much healthier

-I think I was the first to start to yell for Babbit, we got a handful of people to chant for Babbit . . . who didn't look so good, IMO


-HCP has to come up with a new dance, he got screen time and did his old tierd robot thing . . . I did like the Blazer hooded look, it was kind of a retro stalker world series of poker look.
 
Ed O said:
#1: It's one game. I don't think it's fair to say it "continues to happen."
#2: It's preseason.
#3: It's a blowout.
#4: Getting Rudy involved is good for his emotional state and, potentially, for his trade value.

I don't see it as an issue, and I actually think it's a GOOD thing to treat him like a starter rather than (as with, say, Dante) a guy who needs minutes to improve.

Ed O.
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That is my point exactly. Nic played fewer minutes than any regular starter, and less than 3 bench guys.

It is fair to say it continually happens because it has happened for two straight years and now the first game of his third year
 
it's_GO_time said:
-Paul Allen was eating dibs in the third quater while sitting next to Cho and Miller . . . Paul looks much healthier

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Damn, you'd think after 2 cancers he'd be eating tofu and carrot juice. Good for him.

BTW, today's SF Chronicle reported his yacht was spotted in Sausalito yesterday. Has he the uncanny ability to be in 2 places simultaneously?
 
hasoos said:
I know what you are saying. It's because Nic is young and more playing time = development for his game, and he looks like one of those guys that you just need to throw into the fire, let him get burned a bit, and he will come back a better player. I understand that. But when you are up by 40 in a meaningless game against the Clippers, and he missed half of last season with an injury, it is fine with me if he sits down.
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I think I am just sensitive to the fact that he has played less than any starter, and did again last night. Sitting all of them at 18 minutes would have been different, but all of the other starters played more minutes.......again. The closest to Batum was 83 year old Andre Miller who played 22 minutes. Roy, 26, Aldridge 30. He always seems to be the guy that has his minutes cut.
 
Nate played 13 players last night. A "veteran" coach like him should know that a team is only allowed to play 12. Even though it is the preseason, Nate should be coaching like it's a playoff game.

I say fire him. ;)
 
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