Clownzano At It Again

[JfizzleBlazer]

Then why does he repeatedly say "we", instead of "Blazer fans" in his article?

Idk? Hes said it on the bald faced truth multiple times that he has to stay objective.

Ive seen him say hes a fan of these blazers yadda yadda yadda. But i still dont think hes a blazer fan.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Lillard is a unicorn. Have we ever had a player close to him on a national level?

Roy had some success, so did clyde, but aldridge did shit.

Lillard has it all really. Hes just very marketable. Whiteside wont be as marketable here so we cant really sell him on something like that.

I wonder how much pull Lillard has to with his endorsements to be able to get Whiteside's foot in the door on some of them too. Just wondering out loud if that could be a selling point. Although Im not sure how Lillard would even feel about that

 

[Natebishop3]

Why do people keep forgetting that Derek Anderson was a pretty big free agent when we signed him? We stole him from the Spurs.

 

[noknobs]

Lillard is a unicorn. Have we ever had a player close to him on a national level?

Roy had some success, so did clyde, but aldridge did shit.

Lillard has it all really. Hes just very marketable. Whiteside wont be as marketable here so we cant really sell him on something like that.

I guess there are two more unicorns in OKC then. Maybe unicorns aren't as rare as we thought. In today's NBA landscape it's much easier for stars in smaller markets to get endorsement deals. If you're marketable and good enough you will be marketable in Portland. A guy like Aldridge wouldn't have the endorsements Lillard does if he played for the Lakers.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I guess there are two more unicorns in OKC then. Maybe unicorns aren't as rare as we thought. In today's NBA landscape it's much easier for stars in smaller markets to get endorsement deals. If you're marketable and good enough you will be marketable in Portland. A guy like Aldridge wouldn't have the endorsements Lillard does if he played for the Lakers.

There are two more unicorns in OKC.

Aldridge was doing endorsements for mcglaughlin auto group. That shit was embarassing. Local advertisements will pay more in he LA markets. Yes there are more teams with players taking some of those endorsements. But look at blake griffin for example. He has the personality of a doorknob. And dude is plastered all over kia ads.

Opportunities are more plentiful in LA, local ads pay more, and you spend more time woth celebrities.

A guy like whiteside will be on mcglaughlin ads in portland. In LA? Maybe the same, but the opportunities will be more lucrative.

Portland cant market shit like that to whiteside. Howard would probably survive just fine in portland because hes already established his star power the last decade.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It's hard to be wrong if your entire article is just a series of obvious statements and rhetorical questions. A complete waste of time.

Still, the statement, "Because when you can't sell nightlife, beaches and the ability to secure large-market endorsement income, you must sell free agents the chance to win a ring", is in fact inaccurate. Lillard has had a ton of success securing "large-market" endorsements.

Pardon me for parsing semantics, but I would argue that national endorsements are different than large-market endorsements. Superstars garner national endorsements, regardless of their location. When he says "large-market endorsement income", I assume he means local endorsement deals specific to that market, of which the most lucrative would be located in the largest markets.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Why do people keep forgetting that Derek Anderson was a pretty big free agent when we signed him? We stole him from the Spurs.

Meh.

Kenny anderson is our best signing because he was a two year prior all star.

Our main hope is signing guys that would fit well and have shown interest (howard) or guys that are familiar with the west coast.

I thought i remember last year reading that monroe being in milwaukee, which was far closer to his hometown was definitely a "pro" in deciding to sign with the bucks.

Portland to him was like another planet across the entire usa.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

There are two more unicorns in OKC.

Aldridge was doing endorsements for mcglaughlin auto group. That shit was embarassing. Local advertisements will pay more in he LA markets. Yes there are more teams with players taking some of those endorsements. But look at blake griffin for example. He has the personality of a doorknob. And dude is plastered all over kia ads.

Opportunities are more plentiful in LA, local ads pay more, and you spend more time woth celebrities.

A guy like whiteside will be on mcglaughlin ads in portland. In LA? Maybe the same, but the opportunities will be more lucrative.

Portland cant market shit like that to whiteside. Howard would probably survive just fine in portland because hes already established his star power the last decade.

Griffin has a ton more personality than Aldridge. I don't know why you think Griffin has the personality of a doorknob, but I don't think that's the case at all. Whiteside also has much more personality than Aldridge, and he would get more endorsements because of it.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Griffin has a ton more personality than Aldridge. I don't know why you think Griffin has the personality of a doorknob, but I don't think that's the case at all. Whiteside also has much more personality than Aldridge, and he would get more endorsements because of it.

If thats the case, more reason for him to go to LA. More local endorsements means more money.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Whiteside wont be as marketable here so we cant really sell him on something like that.

Sure you can and Whiteside would believe he can do it as he has an irrational confidence compared to his ability but so do most nba players and they kind of have to to get to where they are. I think we are going to see ads where Lillard branches out to include CJ in them and Whiteside could believe he piggybacks on that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's hard to be wrong if your entire article is just a series of obvious statements and rhetorical questions. A complete waste of time.

Still, the statement, "Because when you can't sell nightlife, beaches and the ability to secure large-market endorsement income, you must sell free agents the chance to win a ring", is in fact inaccurate. Lillard has had a ton of success securing "large-market" endorsements.

And the statement, "But Olshey -- who is great in a news conference -- has yet to make a move that lets anyone know what kind of general manager he really is", seems inaccurate considering last off-season's series of moves that resulted in making the playoffs despite losing 80% of their starting line-up. Moves that resulted in Olshey coming in 2nd for executive of the year. It's short-sighted to grade a GM solely on whether or not he's signed a max-contract player.

You have to remember that he is writing for the entire fan base, not just us, what, 50 people?, who spend the day in here talking basketball all day.

 

[noknobs]

Pardon me for parsing semantics, but I would argue that national endorsements are different than large-market endorsements. Superstars garner national endorsements, regardless of their location. When he says "large-market endorsement income", I assume he means local endorsement deals specific to that market, of which the most lucrative would be located in the largest markets.

If that's the discussion then I'd have to concede that a local auto group would likely shell out more endorsement money in L.A. than in Portland, although I'm curious if anyone has the numbers on how substantial this difference is. However is a guy like Whiteside going to choose his team based on local auto group endorsements, or does he want national endorsements?

I'm not arguing that there's no longer a gap in the amount of opportunity and publicity you can potentially receive based on market size. But the individual is what sells in the NBA more than the team. And social media, the internet and the way fans access the NBA are continuing to evolve and it's all helping to narrow the gap in the amount of endorsement opportunities for players in smaller markets.

 

[Daweez04]

Canzano is great at human interest pieces, and I generally enjoy them.

Everything else he just sounds like a blowhard.

 

[BlazerWookee]

He conveniently left out the restricted free agents who signed offer sheets (and in doing so agreed to come here), then were matched by their teams. Millsap, Kanter, who else am I forgetting?

 

[Five Second Violation]

Why do people keep forgetting that Derek Anderson was a pretty big free agent when we signed him? We stole him from the Spurs.

He was actually traded to Portland with Steve Kerr for Steve Smith.

Portland's biggest FA signings to date are probably Rod Strickland, Kenny Anderson, Brian Grant, Andre Miller, and Wesley Matthews. All were average to good level starters but none of them were all star level players at the time. Portland has never had that level of free agent success but then relatively few active all stars ever actually go anywhere in FA.

Jim Jackson and Jamal Crawford were kind of a biggish deal I guess, until they weren't. Hibbert and Millsap both at least signed offer sheets.

Personally I think Portland's penchant for striking out on free agents is overstated. In the 90s we generally had some FA success due to the winning culture of the era and SPAM, but after that we struggled for awhile as overcoming the Jailblazers stigma was tough. I think now with a young playoff team led by a charismatic all star, the chances of getting another good level starter this summer are pretty high.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

He was actually traded to Portland with Steve Kerr for Steve Smith.

Portland's biggest FA signings to date are probably Rod Strickland, Kenny Anderson, Brian Grant, Andre Miller, and Wesley Matthews. All were average to good level starters but none of them were all star level players at the time. Portland has never had that level of free agent success but then relatively few active all stars ever actually go anywhere in FA.

Jim Jackson and Jamal Crawford were kind of a biggish deal I guess, until they weren't. Hibbert and Millsap both at least signed offer sheets.

Personally I think Portland's penchant for striking out on free agents is overstated. In the 90s we generally had some FA success due to the winning culture of the era and SPAM, but after that we struggled for awhile as overcoming the Jailblazers stigma was tough. I think now with a young playoff team led by a charismatic all star, the chances of getting another good level starter this summer are pretty high.

Kenny anderson was an all star two years prior to him signing with us. Which makes him our biggest fa signing.

 

[Natebishop3]

He was actually traded to Portland with Steve Kerr for Steve Smith.

Portland's biggest FA signings to date are probably Rod Strickland, Kenny Anderson, Brian Grant, Andre Miller, and Wesley Matthews. All were average to good level starters but none of them were all star level players at the time. Portland has never had that level of free agent success but then relatively few active all stars ever actually go anywhere in FA.

Jim Jackson and Jamal Crawford were kind of a biggish deal I guess, until they weren't. Hibbert and Millsap both at least signed offer sheets.

Personally I think Portland's penchant for striking out on free agents is overstated. In the 90s we generally had some FA success due to the winning culture of the era and SPAM, but after that we struggled for awhile as overcoming the Jailblazers stigma was tough. I think now with a young playoff team led by a charismatic all star, the chances of getting another good level starter this summer are pretty high.

It was a sign and trade. We could have signed him outright, but we were able to give him more money this way.

 

[RonBrewer]

Saw nothing wrong with the article and pretty much agree with it all. Until we sign a stud, dude is right.

 

[Five Second Violation]

It was a sign and trade. We could have signed him outright, but we were able to give him more money this way.

You're right, I had forgot that part. I think SA knew he was damaged goods.

 

[Natebishop3]

You're right, I had forgot that part. I think SA knew he was damaged goods.

They wanted him back. Wasn't his fault that Juwan Howard fucked him up.

 

[Five Second Violation]

They wanted him back. Wasn't his fault that Juwan Howard fucked him up.

He was never the same after that. Went from stud slasher to DNP- Toothache in no time.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Yesterday Canzano was on the radio up here being interviewed about this story. The host said he didn't think there was anything to the story.

Edit:. Sorry thought this thread was about the blazers moving to Seattle

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yesterday Canzano was on the radio up here being interviewed about this story. The host said he didn't think there was anything to the story.

Edit:. Sorry thought this thread was about the blazers moving to Seattle

It's like an epic tale. EVERY thread leads up to the Blazers moving to Seattle

 

[jlprk]

Just like every Canzano article leads to, "Why won't Paul Allen sell the team? I can't believe that he won't follow my orders and sell to someone whom the Oregonian can control, as it did Pritchard."

 

[kjironman1]

Actually, I wrote my article first. But yeah, I spoke too soon this time. I guess when I read his article initially I did so with my hate canzano colored glasses on

Apology noted and accepted. Do not lose those Glasses however. They come in handy very often.

 

[Chris Craig]

Apology noted and accepted. Do not lose those Glasses however. They come in handy very often.

Especially when hes encroaching on my territory