Notice Clyde Drexler’s stern message to Damian Lillard after CJ McCollum trade & more (1 Viewer)

[Idog1976]

Except he didn't say Porter was as good?

I didn't thanks.

Excellent job of showing just how biased the Clyde haters in here are about what he brought on the floor. Porter wasn't even close to being close to as good as Clyde. Clyde is one of the greatest ever at his position. Terry wasn't even one of the best at his position while he was playing. Yeah, the Clyde hate is totally clouding a lot of people's memories about his greatness.

Bro I said Terry was the brains (and grit IMO) of that team. I said Kersey was the heart and Williams the soul. If you will Clyde was the body or engine of the team. I'm saying his greatness was high, but he relied heavily on his fantastic gritty teammates, especially the three I mentioned. I have him at #3 all-time favorites for me which is totally subjective and my opinion only. I didn't say who had the best stats, obviously, that's Clyde who was a Superstar of the ages. He's also an asshat since retiring and even dating back to the 50 Greatest players jersey snub. I am NOT saying he's not the all-time greatest stats-wise, though Lillard is coming for that title and soon and not due to longevity, due to greatness.

 

[Idog1976]

Kevin Durant and Karl Malone are/were better players than Clyde but that doesn't mean they aren't jerks. John Stockton was one of the greatest players of all time but he's an ass about vaccines and holds some idiot opinions.

Drexler was one of the best players ever, and his Blazer legacy was huge when he was traded. But, in subsequent years, in later actions, in post Blazer statements, he has tarnished that Blazer legacy in the minds of a lot of Blazer fans. Saying that Dame should demand to be traded is horseshit coming from him

Exactly this.

 

[blazerkor]

I didn't thanks.




Bro I said Terry was the brains (and grit IMO) of that team. I said Kersey was the heart and Williams the soul. If you will Clyde was the body or engine of the team. I'm saying his greatness was high, but he relied heavily on his fantastic gritty teammates, especially the three I mentioned. I have him at #3 all-time favorites for me which is totally subjective and my opinion only. I didn't say who had the best stats, obviously, that's Clyde who was a Superstar of the ages. He's also an asshat since retiring and even dating back to the 50 Greatest players jersey snub. I am NOT saying he's not the all-time greatest stats-wise, though Lillard is coming for that title and soon and not due to longevity, due to greatness.

I had you all wrong. If you're just saying who your favorites are, I can't argue that at all. You could have anyone at the top of that list and I definitely couldn't argue it. That being said, there's an argument to be had that Clyde fits anywhere one through three as the greatest Blazer of all time, it just depends on your criteria. Obviously Porter is pretty far down on that list and I don't think that's what you were debating. So sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.

 

[Idog1976]

I had you all wrong. If you're just saying who your favorites are, I can't argue that at all. You could have anyone at the top of that list and I definitely couldn't argue it. That being said, there's an argument to be had that Clyde fits anywhere one through three as the greatest Blazer of all time, it just depends on your criteria. Obviously Porter is pretty far down on that list and I don't think that's what you were debating. So sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.

No worries. I wasn't as clear as I could have been and mad respect for this post. Some folks can't even admit they misinterpreted someone else. So I appreciate that. For the record I don't hate Clyde and he's the statistically greatest Blazer of all-time. Dame will soon surpass that and they aren't empty stats either. Does Dame have to get to the Finals twice to be better than Drexler? Even though he's never had anything like Drexler's supporting cast or coach? I think there's a strong argument to be made that Dame is already the greatest Blazers, except Walton had crazy efficient stats and was Finals MVP on a championship team. That alone makes him number one in my book. Our sole Superstar on that team carried us to the best run of all-time. I watched Drexler as a 12 to 15 year old absolutely dominate much of the league. I remember his greatness, but I also remember Porter being SUPER clutch. Williams being a defensive and rebounding beast and Kersey and his defense and fast-break skills were just amazing.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

If Clyde had Dame's work ethic and leadership we would have had at least one, maybe more championships.

Unfortunately he was soft. Jordan exposed him.

Opinions on this vary. Yours is noted.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

No, I don't think this is true at all. Matter of fact it pissed me off at the time when fans wanted to trade him because of this theory. (Before the first trip to the finals)

True Clyde did not like to practice during the season. He played a lot of minutes and did not think it was wise to run a lot during practice. He came out of college with no skill set but dunking. But he worked hard on his game during the offseason and improved every year...until he got old. From year one to year two, he improved drastically. No one could believe it.

What he lacked was a consistent outside jump shot. It was so flat. But he definitely was not soft. He was relentless at attacking the basket. And he was a great rebounder for a guard and he always came to play. He just was not as talented as Michael, but who was?

The other side of the coin.

 

[STOMP]

No, I don't think this is true at all. Matter of fact it pissed me off at the time when fans wanted to trade him because of this theory. (Before the first trip to the finals)

True Clyde did not like to practice during the season. He played a lot of minutes and did not think it was wise to run a lot during practice. He came out of college with no skill set but dunking. But he worked hard on his game during the offseason and improved every year...until he got old. From year one to year two, he improved drastically. No one could believe it.

What he lacked was a consistent outside jump shot. It was so flat. But he definitely was not soft. He was relentless at attacking the basket. And he was a great rebounder for a guard and he always came to play. He just was not as talented as Michael, but who was?

Clyde's last season in Portland was in 1994 which means any poster less then 40 was a preteen when he left Portland. We've several of those here who constantly post just to get reactions even though they clearly don't know shit, & there is lots of that in this thread. Clyde left at age 32, which is typically the twilight of an NBA player's prime. While he still had some gas left in the tank, he was no longer the dominant force he was at his peak when most every game he was head and shoulders the best player on the court crushing opponent's will night after night. Duck was done, Buck was 34, Porter had been surpassed by Rod Strickland. Like Clyde, Strickland was tremendous at attacking the hoop but lacked a solid J so the spacing/chemistry wasn't nearly as good as it was with Porter running the show. New GM Bob Whitsett had replaced Adelman with irritating college screamer PJ Carlisimo... the end of an era writing was on the wall and everyone knew it.

Clyde liking or not liking to practice during the season is a moot point as guys who played then and now rarely practice much during the regular season as the NBA is a grind. Anyone trying to make a point with that nonsense is revealing themselves to be an idiot.

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[maxiep]

can we rename that street outside moda now?

Lillard Lane sounds nice.

 

[maxiep]

Is it too early to rename it Lillard Lane?

Beat me to it.

 

[maxiep]

Nothing against Drexler he was great while playing but he also had pretty good supporting cast around him while he played here too. He had 2 chances to win it all in Portland and that team fail both times. There a lot great players that didn't win championships but that doesn't make them less of a great player. Will Dame ever win a championship probably not just because how a few teams load there roster ups. Plus winning championship everything has fall in place as healthy team and some luck on the way.

You swap Dame for Clyde on those teams, moving TP to the off guard and we win in 1990. Dame doesn't let the Bad Boys push us around.

 

[wizenheimer]

You swap Dame for Clyde on those teams, moving TP to the off guard and we win in 1990. Dame doesn't let the Bad Boys push us around.

that brings up an interesting question: I wonder how Nurkic would have reacted to Laimbeer, Mahorn, and James Edwards, not to mention Rodman

 

[maxiep]

that brings up an interesting question: I wonder how Nurkic would have reacted to Laimbeer, Mahorn, and James Edwards, not to mention Rodman

Nurkic would have been owned by them.

 

[oldmangrouch]

2 Blazers and a Rocket

A T-Wolf, a Celtic, and a Rocket.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Any discussion of greatest Blazers should include Geoff Petrie. He was out first star and for several years our only glimmer of hope. Like Roy, he was a HOF level talent cut off in his prime by devastating knee injuries. Unlike the above triumverate, he didn't want to leave Portland and actually came back to work in the front office and help build some of our best teams.

 

[illmatic99]

A T-Wolf, a Celtic, and a Rocket.

twolf?

 

[oldmangrouch]

twolf?

After leaving Portland he unretired, signed with the TWolves, then re-retired. He screwed with our cap-space in the process. Just like D (dirtbag) Miles with Memphis.

I wish Roy understood how important he was to this fan base and cared about how much he was worshipped here. Instead, he has made it quite clear he does not. In that respect, I see no difference between Roy and Clyde.

 

[blazerkor]

After leaving Portland he unretired, signed with the TWolves, then re-retired. He screwed with our cap-space in the process. Just like D (dirtbag) Miles with Memphis.

I wish Roy understood how important he was to this fan base and cared about how much he was worshipped here. Instead, he has made it quite clear he does not. In that respect, I see no difference between Roy and Clyde.

That's Dame, Clyde and Bill... no Brandon pictured.

 

[oldmangrouch]

That's Dame, Clyde and Bill... no Brandon pictured.

Yikes! I need to learn to wear my glasses when I surf the internet! I see the black print on the white background OK, but colors tend to blob up on me.

Man, I feel like a doofus!

 

[illmatic99]

After leaving Portland he unretired, signed with the TWolves, then re-retired. He screwed with our cap-space in the process. Just like D (dirtbag) Miles with Memphis.

I wish Roy understood how important he was to this fan base and cared about how much he was worshipped here. Instead, he has made it quite clear he does not. In that respect, I see no difference between Roy and Clyde.

that's dame in the pic from the top 75 celebration, not broy

 

[STOMP]

You swap Dame for Clyde on those teams, moving TP to the off guard and we win in 1990. Dame doesn't let the Bad Boys push us around.

Sorry but no, it was David Stern's league. Dame or not, Portland's entire front line would have been picking up the same ticky tacks while Detroit mauled them.

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[Fairly-Hard]

Sorry but no, it was David Stern's league. Dame or not, Portland's entire front line would have been picking up the same ticky tacks while Detroit mauled them.

STOMP

This is how i remember it as well. Some of us actually watched that series.

 

[wizenheimer]

This is how i remember it as well. Some of us actually watched that series.

Portland actually attempted & made more FT's than Detroit in that series. Kersey and Duckworth were constantly in foul trouble though. Cliff Robinson was a deer in headlights

Detroit simply made the plays, and shots, when they needed to and Thomas was hot from three at critical times. Mainly, the Pistons won the 4th Q's

 

[tykendo]

I really like that picture. I loved Clyde as a Blazer. I really hated when he got traded. And then for a Yugo( over the hill Otis Thorpe) . I just wish Clyde would show more love towards the franchise and the city that loved him. Everything i've heard from him has been like the Blazers were just a stop on the way. Bill talks about his Blazer days a ton. Returns regularly. Clyde's BEST YEARS , performance -wise, were as a Blazer. I know he won a championship in Houston, and it's his Hometown, but it was Portland where he ruled during his NBA career. He seems to have taken that for granted. I hope one day he will realizes that.

 

[STOMP]

I really like that picture. I loved Clyde as a Blazer. I really hated when he got traded. And then for a Yugo( over the hill Otis Thorpe). I just wish Clyde would show more love towards the franchise and the city that loved him. Everything i've heard from him has been like the Blazers were just a stop on the way. Bill talks about his Blazer days a ton. Returns regularly. Clyde's BEST YEARS , performance -wise, were as a Blazer. I know he won a championship in Houston, and it's his Hometown, but it was Portland where he ruled during his NBA career. He seems to have taken that for granted. I hope one day he will realizes that.

Clyde is very bright & I'm sure he knows whats what with his playing career. He also knows where he lives and who is writing him checks, so he pumps Rocket sunshine.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

Portland actually attempted & made more FT's than Detroit in that series. Kersey and Duckworth were constantly in foul trouble though. Cliff Robinson was a deer in headlights

Detroit simply made the plays, and shots, when they needed to and Thomas was hot from three at critical times. Mainly, the Pistons won the 4th Q's

Reading box scores is not the same as watching the games. If you had watched the games, you'd be siting the Microwave as the difference maker not Thomas. But since you went there, I waded through all 82 regular season and 21 playoff box scores from that season to see if memory served me well. Games 1 and 3 vs Detroit featured the two highest foul totals against Portland during that entire span (35 & 38). Those two crucial games also just happened to have the most calls against Portland's starters (22 & 24). Again, Portland was being consistently manhandled on one end while phantom nonsense calls happened on the other. Two different standards were being held which was in line with what happened throughout Stern's era where the bigger market consistently had the favor of his officials when it mattered most.

Perhaps you aware that the NBA is still the only major sports league where the officials don't regulate themselves but instead report directly to the league's front office? Following the Donaghy scandal this was promised to be changed by the league, but was swept under the rug after the public fervor died down. Clearly thats the way Stern wanted it.

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[HailBlazers]

Clyde is very bright & I'm sure he knows whats what with his playing career. He also knows where he lives and who is writing him checks, so he pumps Rocket sunshine. STOMP

Agree to disagree.

 

[STOMP]

Agree to disagree.

Wondering why? To me it's always been pretty obvious he's bright. I don't like everything he says, but thats a different question.

http://www.apbr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1688

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[Fairly-Hard]

Agree to disagree.

Clyde has always been considered one of the highest IQ guys that ever played the game on and off the court.

 

[TBpup]

Clyde has always been considered one of the highest IQ guys that ever played the game on and off the court.

To be able to dribble with his head strait down, know where everyone was, and still make the types of passes he did, it was either IQ or a ridiculously innate sense of what was going on all around him.