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I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
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Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
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Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
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Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
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I only watched the first hour of it. So haven't seen about half of it now.</p>
It seemed to me, early on, that Guliani and Romney might end up sabotaging each other.</p>
Not surprised that Guliani is stumbling, personally I think he's a shit candidate (same with Hilary).</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
</div></p>
Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
</div></p>
I only watched the first hour of it. So haven't seen about half of it now.</p>
It seemed to me, early on, that Guliani and Romney might end up sabotaging each other.</p>
Not surprised that Guliani is stumbling, personally I think he's a shit candidate (same with Hilary).</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
</div></p>
Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
</div></p>
I only watched the first hour of it. So haven't seen about half of it now.</p>
It seemed to me, early on, that Guliani and Romney might end up sabotaging each other.</p>
Not surprised that Guliani is stumbling, personally I think he's a shit candidate (same with Hilary).</p>
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Romney's on the rise, Guiliani is slipping, of course Guiliani is going to go after Romney.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
</div></p>
Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
</div></p>
I only watched the first hour of it. So haven't seen about half of it now.</p>
It seemed to me, early on, that Guliani and Romney might end up sabotaging each other.</p>
Not surprised that Guliani is stumbling, personally I think he's a shit candidate (same with Hilary).</p>
</p>
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Romney's on the rise, Guiliani is slipping, of course Guiliani is going to go after Romney.</p>
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[quote name='Real']</p>
[quote name='BG7 Lavigne']</p>
[quote name='Real']</p>
[quote name='BG7 Lavigne']</p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
I only watched the first hour of it. So haven't seen about half of it now.</p>
It seemed to me, early on, that Guliani and Romney might end up sabotaging each other.</p>
Not surprised that Guliani is stumbling, personally I think he's a shit candidate (same with Hilary).</p>
</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
Romney's on the rise, Guiliani is slipping, of course Guiliani is going to go after Romney.</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
I don't mean going after each other. I meant that they would get so caught up in their bitch fests that a third party could take a rise, but from what I saw, that didn't and wasn't going to happen.</p>
I don't think Paul will be able to rise up and get the Republican nomination, so I think he'll end up as the Libertarian nomination with Romney as the Republican nominee at this point. There was no substance behind Guliani making a good president. He's just a corrupt guy who would drive the American economy down further....oh yeah..9/11...crime in NY.....can't forget about those great things! Not a big fan of Romney, but he'd be better than Guliani and Clinton, but I still am holding out hope that somehow its Obama (DEM) vs. Paul (REP) in the Genereal Election.</p>
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[quote name='BG7 Lavigne']</p>
[quote name='Real']</p>
[quote name='BG7 Lavigne']</p>
I think McCain made a mistake when he was singling out Paul on isolationism. Saying that American appeasement led to WW2? When did America become part of Europe?</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
Yeah but otherwise he's been pretty strong IMO.</p>
Rudy seems to be stumbling a bit.</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
I only watched the first hour of it. So haven't seen about half of it now.</p>
It seemed to me, early on, that Guliani and Romney might end up sabotaging each other.</p>
Not surprised that Guliani is stumbling, personally I think he's a shit candidate (same with Hilary).</p>
</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
Romney's on the rise, Guiliani is slipping, of course Guiliani is going to go after Romney.</p>
[/QUOTE]</p>
I don't mean going after each other. I meant that they would get so caught up in their bitch fests that a third party could take a rise, but from what I saw, that didn't and wasn't going to happen.</p>
I don't think Paul will be able to rise up and get the Republican nomination, so I think he'll end up as the Libertarian nomination with Romney as the Republican nominee at this point. There was no substance behind Guliani making a good president. He's just a corrupt guy who would drive the American economy down further....oh yeah..9/11...crime in NY.....can't forget about those great things! Not a big fan of Romney, but he'd be better than Guliani and Clinton, but I still am holding out hope that somehow its Obama (DEM) vs. Paul (REP) in the Genereal Election.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
Mike Huckabee is the shit.</p>
Seriously though, he impressed me tonight. Plus, he's got the support of Chuck Norris. What else could you ask for?</p>
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The one issue that Romney exposed on Huckabee is that he is in favor of providing college scholarships, paid for by taxes, to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes. The polls show Huckabee doing extremely well in Iowa - I just don't think he can keep it up accross the board.</p>
As far as Rudy is concerned. He did great at the beginning of his campaign because all people knew of him was his leadership on 9-11. As this election goes on I expect his popularity to decline as people start to know where he stands on issues.</p>
I was really suprised with Romney in the debate. He impressed me a lot.</p>
Mike Huckabee is the shit.</p>
Seriously though, he impressed me tonight. Plus, he's got the support of Chuck Norris. What else could you ask for?</p>
</div></p>
The one issue that Romney exposed on Huckabee is that he is in favor of providing college scholarships, paid for by taxes, to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes. The polls show Huckabee doing extremely well in Iowa - I just don't think he can keep it up accross the board.</p>
As far as Rudy is concerned. He did great at the beginning of his campaign because all people knew of him was his leadership on 9-11. As this election goes on I expect his popularity to decline as people start to know where he stands on issues.</p>
I was really suprised with Romney in the debate. He impressed me a lot.</p>
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Romney has the resume to be a pretty good president. He ran the Olympics a few years back, so he has something resembling foreign-policy experience. He was governor of a wealthy state, so he has executive branch experience. He's been successful in the private sector, so he has some idea of how us people not working for government get by.</p>
Ontheotherhand,Idon'tseehimbeingawholelotdifferentthanGWBush. He'snotaconservative,butonsomeissueshe'slikelytopandertothereligiousright. Thinkstemcells.</p>
Huckabeemightsurpriseallofusifhewereelected. He'sgotClinton'sresume(gov.ofArkansas)butwithoutthebaggage. He'sVERYreligious,butclearlydoesn'tcomeacrossasborn-again. Zeroforeignpolicyexperience. Generallyagoodfellow, or so it seems.</p>
ANYONEbutaBushoraClinton. Please!</p>
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Ontheotherhand,Idon'tseehimbeingawholelotdifferentthanGWBush. He'snotaconservative,butonsomeissueshe'slikelytopandertothereligiousright. Thinkstemcells.</p>
Huckabeemightsurpriseallofusifhewereelected. He'sgotClinton'sresume(gov.ofArkansas)butwithoutthebaggage. He'sVERYreligious,butclearlydoesn'tcomeacrossasborn-again. Zeroforeignpolicyexperience. Generallyagoodfellow, or so it seems.</p>
ANYONEbutaBushoraClinton. Please!</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hunter)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
Mike Huckabee is the shit.</p>
Seriously though, he impressed me tonight. Plus, he's got the support of Chuck Norris. What else could you ask for?</p>
</div></p>
The one issue that Romney exposed on Huckabee is that he is in favor of providing college scholarships, paid for by taxes, to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes. The polls show Huckabee doing extremely well in Iowa - I just don't think he can keep it up accross the board.</p>
As far as Rudy is concerned. He did great at the beginning of his campaign because all people knew of him was his leadership on 9-11. As this election goes on I expect his popularity to decline as people start to know where he stands on issues.</p>
I was really suprised with Romney in the debate. He impressed me a lot.</p>
</div></p>
No, Huckabee does not support providing college scholarships to illegal immigrants paid for by tax dollars. He supports giving them the in state tuition rates for state colleges, which they rightfully deserve. Its not their fault, no need to punish the children for what their parents did, America should be above that. I found that entire United States military child comparison completely assinine. Why should the children of the US military get special benefits? Those children can get the in state tuition rates in their states of residency. No need for them to get in state tuition rates in every state in the United States even though they aren't in state, just because they are children of the United States military. Those children of the immigrants usually will be passing the requirement for in state tuition, which from what I've seen, is establishing a domicile in that state for one year.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
Mike Huckabee is the shit.</p>
Seriously though, he impressed me tonight. Plus, he's got the support of Chuck Norris. What else could you ask for?</p>
</div></p>
The one issue that Romney exposed on Huckabee is that he is in favor of providing college scholarships, paid for by taxes, to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes. The polls show Huckabee doing extremely well in Iowa - I just don't think he can keep it up accross the board.</p>
As far as Rudy is concerned. He did great at the beginning of his campaign because all people knew of him was his leadership on 9-11. As this election goes on I expect his popularity to decline as people start to know where he stands on issues.</p>
I was really suprised with Romney in the debate. He impressed me a lot.</p>
</div></p>
No, Huckabee does not support providing college scholarships to illegal immigrants paid for by tax dollars. He supports giving them the in state tuition rates for state colleges, which they rightfully deserve. Its not their fault, no need to punish the children for what their parents did, America should be above that. I found that entire United States military child comparison completely assinine. Why should the children of the US military get special benefits? Those children can get the in state tuition rates in their states of residency. No need for them to get in state tuition rates in every state in the United States even though they aren't in state, just because they are children of the United States military. Those children of the immigrants usually will be passing the requirement for in state tuition, which from what I've seen, is establishing a domicile in that state for one year.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
Romney has the resume to be a pretty good president. He ran the Olympics a few years back, so he has something resembling foreign-policy experience. He was governor of a wealthy state, so he has executive branch experience. He's been successful in the private sector, so he has some idea of how us people not working for government get by.</p>
Ontheotherhand,Idon'tseehimbeingawholelotdifferentthanGWBush. He'snotaconservative,butonsomeissueshe'slikelytopandertothereligiousright. Thinkstemcells.</p>
Huckabeemightsurpriseallofusifhewereelected. He'sgotClinton'sresume(gov.ofArkansas)butwithoutthebaggage. He'sVERYreligious,butclearlydoesn'tcomeacrossasborn-again. Zeroforeignpolicyexperience. Generallyagoodfellow, or so it seems.</p>
ANYONEbutaBushoraClinton. Please!</p>
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So worse case scenerio, is 8 years of Hillary, then 8 years of Jeb Bush...</p>
Then Chelsea Clinton decides to run, after serving in Congress of course, and wins, serves for 8 years...</p>
Then one of the Bush twins runs, with the other being VP.</p>
Unrealistic of couse, but it'd drive me off the edge.</p>
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Romney has the resume to be a pretty good president. He ran the Olympics a few years back, so he has something resembling foreign-policy experience. He was governor of a wealthy state, so he has executive branch experience. He's been successful in the private sector, so he has some idea of how us people not working for government get by.</p>
Ontheotherhand,Idon'tseehimbeingawholelotdifferentthanGWBush. He'snotaconservative,butonsomeissueshe'slikelytopandertothereligiousright. Thinkstemcells.</p>
Huckabeemightsurpriseallofusifhewereelected. He'sgotClinton'sresume(gov.ofArkansas)butwithoutthebaggage. He'sVERYreligious,butclearlydoesn'tcomeacrossasborn-again. Zeroforeignpolicyexperience. Generallyagoodfellow, or so it seems.</p>
ANYONEbutaBushoraClinton. Please!</p>
</p>
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So worse case scenerio, is 8 years of Hillary, then 8 years of Jeb Bush...</p>
Then Chelsea Clinton decides to run, after serving in Congress of course, and wins, serves for 8 years...</p>
Then one of the Bush twins runs, with the other being VP.</p>
Unrealistic of couse, but it'd drive me off the edge.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hunter)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
Mike Huckabee is the shit.</p>
Seriously though, he impressed me tonight. Plus, he's got the support of Chuck Norris. What else could you ask for?</p>
</div></p>
The one issue that Romney exposed on Huckabee is that he is in favor of providing college scholarships, paid for by taxes, to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes. The polls show Huckabee doing extremely well in Iowa - I just don't think he can keep it up accross the board.</p>
As far as Rudy is concerned. He did great at the beginning of his campaign because all people knew of him was his leadership on 9-11. As this election goes on I expect his popularity to decline as people start to know where he stands on issues.</p>
I was really suprised with Romney in the debate. He impressed me a lot.</p>
</div></p>
No, Huckabee does not support providing college scholarships to illegal immigrants paid for by tax dollars. He supports giving them the in state tuition rates for state colleges, which they rightfully deserve. Its not their fault, no need to punish the children for what their parents did, America should be above that. I found that entire United States military child comparison completely assinine. Why should the children of the US military get special benefits? Those children can get the in state tuition rates in their states of residency. No need for them to get in state tuition rates in every state in the United States even though they aren't in state, just because they are children of the United States military. Those children of the immigrants usually will be passing the requirement for in state tuition, which from what I've seen, is establishing a domicile in that state for one year.</p>
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So it's okay for non-US citizens to get the same rates as children of Americans who serve in the U.S. Military?</p>
Really?</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hunter)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
Mike Huckabee is the shit.</p>
Seriously though, he impressed me tonight. Plus, he's got the support of Chuck Norris. What else could you ask for?</p>
</div></p>
The one issue that Romney exposed on Huckabee is that he is in favor of providing college scholarships, paid for by taxes, to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes. The polls show Huckabee doing extremely well in Iowa - I just don't think he can keep it up accross the board.</p>
As far as Rudy is concerned. He did great at the beginning of his campaign because all people knew of him was his leadership on 9-11. As this election goes on I expect his popularity to decline as people start to know where he stands on issues.</p>
I was really suprised with Romney in the debate. He impressed me a lot.</p>
</div></p>
No, Huckabee does not support providing college scholarships to illegal immigrants paid for by tax dollars. He supports giving them the in state tuition rates for state colleges, which they rightfully deserve. Its not their fault, no need to punish the children for what their parents did, America should be above that. I found that entire United States military child comparison completely assinine. Why should the children of the US military get special benefits? Those children can get the in state tuition rates in their states of residency. No need for them to get in state tuition rates in every state in the United States even though they aren't in state, just because they are children of the United States military. Those children of the immigrants usually will be passing the requirement for in state tuition, which from what I've seen, is establishing a domicile in that state for one year.</p>
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So it's okay for non-US citizens to get the same rates as children of Americans who serve in the U.S. Military?</p>
Really?</p>
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^^^ Sure, why not?</p>
As long as we don't allow non-citizens to vote, they should be basically treated fairly.</p>
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As long as we don't allow non-citizens to vote, they should be basically treated fairly.</p>
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Why is the military being brought into this? Thats just a powerful draw word he is using.</p>
Can't you have state residency, but not United States residency? Can these immigrants have citizenship to the state, but not the nation? Doesn't the United States work on a system of dual-citizenship?</p>
Also, I would like to know why Romney thinks the children of the US Military should get special privledges over normal people like myself, who are actually US Citizens. I don't get the in state rates for Texas....why shold a child in Wisconsin who is the son of a person in the US military get in state tuition rates for Texas when they live in Wisconsin?</p>
Can't you have state residency, but not United States residency? Can these immigrants have citizenship to the state, but not the nation? Doesn't the United States work on a system of dual-citizenship?</p>
Also, I would like to know why Romney thinks the children of the US Military should get special privledges over normal people like myself, who are actually US Citizens. I don't get the in state rates for Texas....why shold a child in Wisconsin who is the son of a person in the US military get in state tuition rates for Texas when they live in Wisconsin?</p>
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