Colin Cowherd asks "Why is A-Rod a non-story?"

[Jon_Vilma]

Re: Colin Cowherd asks "Why is A-Rod a non-story?"

"When A-Rod strikes out in the 9th, the New York Post will bang on him for a week. The National media will talk about the boos and masks and jeers, covers the off the field stuff like who he goes to dinner with and if he's friends with A-Rod. Everyone is seemingly obsessed with him. Yet he leads the majors in Home Runs BY FAR this year, and no one is talking about it. He's knocked 4 home runs in the 9th (3 that gave them the lead and were game winners), and 3 more in the 8th (2 eventual game winners). And NO ONE is talking about it. His numbers in the 9th so far this year are amazing, and from what anyone talks about, you wouldn't know it. Why is it that people only care when A-Rod screws up? Why is this a non-story nationally?"

 

[AdropOFvenom]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 7 2007, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"When A-Rod strikes out in the 9th, the New York Post will bang on him for a week. The National media will talk about the boos and masks and jeers, covers the off the field stuff like who he goes to dinner with and if he's friends with A-Rod. Everyone is seemingly obsessed with him. Yet he leads the majors in Home Runs BY FAR this year, and no one is talking about it. He's knocked 4 home runs in the 9th (3 that gave them the lead and were game winners), and 3 more in the 8th (2 eventual game winners). And NO ONE is talking about it. His numbers in the 9th so far this year are amazing, and from what anyone talks about, you wouldn't know it. Why is it that people only care when A-Rod screws up? Why is this a non-story nationally?"</div>A-Rod was just about the only thing that Sports Stations talked about in the month of April when he was off to his historic start. Since then he's had a really bad month where he hit .235 in May, which is why nobody was mentioning him, because it wasn't much of a story. And while he's had a good June so far, it's only been a week. If they went into a frenzy anytime a player in baseball had a good week, they'd have no time to cover anything else. To try and imply that A-Rod is deprived of media attention is just laughable.

 

[Brooksie5]

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1 home run is "BY FAR"? News to me.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 8 2007, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 7 2007, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"When A-Rod strikes out in the 9th, the New York Post will bang on him for a week. The National media will talk about the boos and masks and jeers, covers the off the field stuff like who he goes to dinner with and if he's friends with A-Rod. Everyone is seemingly obsessed with him. Yet he leads the majors in Home Runs BY FAR this year, and no one is talking about it. He's knocked 4 home runs in the 9th (3 that gave them the lead and were game winners), and 3 more in the 8th (2 eventual game winners). And NO ONE is talking about it. His numbers in the 9th so far this year are amazing, and from what anyone talks about, you wouldn't know it. Why is it that people only care when A-Rod screws up? Why is this a non-story nationally?"</div>A-Rod was just about the only thing that Sports Stations talked about in the month of April when he was off to his historic start. Since then he's had a really bad month where he hit .235 in May, which is why nobody was mentioning him, because it wasn't much of a story. And while he's had a good June so far, it's only been a week. If they went into a frenzy anytime a player in baseball had a good week, they'd have no time to cover anything else. To try and imply that A-Rod is deprived of media attention is just laughable.</div>He's not deprived of local media attention. He's deprived of POSITIVE, NATIONAL attention. When he hits a game winning home run it's "<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">And A-Rod finished the game off with a game winning homer in the 9th...</span> and in Basketball news..." When he gets a K with bases loaded in the 9th it's "<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Bwahaha! He can't get it done in the clutch!</span>

 

[Nebkreb]

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honestly - the national medias attention on ARod is laughable. The whole popup in Toronto was prolly the funniest thing in the history of massive overreactions. That prolly happens many times a year, yet when the BJ 3rd Basemen dropped it, ARod is a fucking pariah. While he has gotten national attention for his stats, people are saying "ugh finally, stupid ARod" People dont like that he is a clean athlete who works hard and has flaws (like, unbelievably, THE REST OF HUMANITY) yet we seemingly have no anger for a flagrant racist like Gary Sheffield who insulted Latinos, Blacks and the entire baseball world with his ignorant comments. The national media blows up every time ARod grounds out, yet with the best possible (realistic) batting average for him being .350ish, he will make an out AT LEAST 6 out of EVERY TEN ATBats.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 8 2007, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's not deprived of local media attention. He's deprived of POSITIVE, NATIONAL attention. When he hits a game winning home run it's "<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">And A-Rod finished the game off with a game winning homer in the 9th...</span> and in Basketball news..." When he gets a K with bases loaded in the 9th it's "<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Bwahaha! He can't get it done in the clutch!</span></div>That's not even close to accurate. The only thing the National Media was discussing during the month of April was A-Rod's rediculously good start. They spent a good 5 minutes discussing just A-Rod just about each and every day on each and every National Sports Show that month. Then as I said, as he fell back and starting hitting like he was human again the media went onto more pressing news stories. The only reason his slumps even get mentioned in the first place is because it is constantly brought to the National Media's attention by that joke that you call the Average Yankees Fan when you boo argueably a Top 5 hitter in the Game.Honestly, this point is just laughable. To try and argue for it is just lowering your IQ. It just shows that all Yankees fans are attention whores who can't handle not being in the spotlight.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jun 8 2007, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>honestly - the national medias attention on ARod is laughable. The whole popup in Toronto was prolly the funniest thing in the history of massive overreactions. That prolly happens many times a year, yet when the BJ 3rd Basemen dropped it, ARod is a fucking pariah. While he has gotten national attention for his stats, people are saying "ugh finally, stupid ARod" People dont like that he is a clean athlete who works hard and has flaws (like, unbelievably, THE REST OF HUMANITY) yet we seemingly have no anger for a flagrant racist like Gary Sheffield who insulted Latinos, Blacks and the entire baseball world with his ignorant comments. The national media blows up every time ARod grounds out, yet with the best possible (realistic) batting average for him being .350ish, he will make an out AT LEAST 6 out of EVERY TEN ATBats.</div>Playing Devils Advocate, what the hell makes you think that he is clean? He is just as big as Barry Bonds is, but he's assumed guilty while Alex Rodriguez gets off scott free from any blame? PS: Have you watched any sports show in the past week when you make such dumbass comments about Gary Sheffield? All they have done is tore the guy to shreads.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 8 2007, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 8 2007, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's not deprived of local media attention. He's deprived of POSITIVE, NATIONAL attention. When he hits a game winning home run it's "<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">And A-Rod finished the game off with a game winning homer in the 9th...</span> and in Basketball news..." When he gets a K with bases loaded in the 9th it's "<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Bwahaha! He can't get it done in the clutch!</span></div>That's not even close to accurate. The only thing the National Media was discussing during the month of April was A-Rod's rediculously good start. They spent a good 5 minutes discussing just A-Rod just about each and every day on each and every National Sports Show that month. Then as I said, as he fell back and starting hitting like he was human again the media went onto more pressing news stories. The only reason his slumps even get mentioned in the first place is because it is constantly brought to the National Media's attention by that joke that you call the Average Yankees Fan when you boo argueably a Top 5 hitter in the Game.Honestly, this point is just laughable. To try and argue for it is just lowering your IQ. It just shows that all Yankees fans are attention whores who can't handle not being in the spotlight.

</div>You're resulting to ad hominem proves your lack of evidence.

 

[Nebkreb]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 8 2007, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jun 8 2007, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>honestly - the national medias attention on ARod is laughable. The whole popup in Toronto was prolly the funniest thing in the history of massive overreactions. That prolly happens many times a year, yet when the BJ 3rd Basemen dropped it, ARod is a fucking pariah. While he has gotten national attention for his stats, people are saying "ugh finally, stupid ARod" People dont like that he is a clean athlete who works hard and has flaws (like, unbelievably, THE REST OF HUMANITY) yet we seemingly have no anger for a flagrant racist like Gary Sheffield who insulted Latinos, Blacks and the entire baseball world with his ignorant comments. The national media blows up every time ARod grounds out, yet with the best possible (realistic) batting average for him being .350ish, he will make an out AT LEAST 6 out of EVERY TEN ATBats.</div>Playing Devils Advocate, what the hell makes you think that he is clean? He is just as big as Barry Bonds is, but he's assumed guilty while Alex Rodriguez gets off scott free from any blame? PS: Have you watched any sports show in the past week when you make such dumbass comments about Gary Sheffield? All they have done is tore the guy to shreads.</div>#1 - the news radio has torn him to shreds, but other than some schmucks talking, thats it. it has been widely accepted, as ARods seeming incompetence has#2 - No evidence or suspicion has ARod ever being linked to steroids. He has the same body type as when he was younger (slightly bigger but in proportion, the growth was natural growth and weight gain) and being as he was touted since he was like 19 in Seattle, Its safe to say that his progress has not been unforseen

 

[Nebkreb]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 8 2007, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 8 2007, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's not deprived of local media attention. He's deprived of POSITIVE, NATIONAL attention. When he hits a game winning home run it's "<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">And A-Rod finished the game off with a game winning homer in the 9th...</span> and in Basketball news..." When he gets a K with bases loaded in the 9th it's "<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Bwahaha! He can't get it done in the clutch!</span></div>That's not even close to accurate. The only thing the National Media was discussing during the month of April was A-Rod's rediculously good start. They spent a good 5 minutes discussing just A-Rod just about each and every day on each and every National Sports Show that month. Then as I said, as he fell back and starting hitting like he was human again the media went onto more pressing news stories. The only reason his slumps even get mentioned in the first place is because it is constantly brought to the National Media's attention by that joke that you call the Average Yankees Fan when you boo argueably a Top 5 hitter in the Game.Honestly, this point is just laughable. To try and argue for it is just lowering your IQ. It just shows that all Yankees fans are attention whores who can't handle not being in the spotlight.

</div>my problem isnt that hes not in the spot light but that he seems to only get attention when hes "failing." I remember ESPN had a 1month MVP of like 5 sports writers after April and ONLY ONE said it was ARod despite the fact that he tied records for RBIS and HRS in April

 

[AdropOFvenom]

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[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='94109' date='Jun 8 2007, 04:10 PM']You're resulting to ad hominem proves your lack of evidence.[/quote]Haha, You're lack of a response of any substance shows that you know that I'm right.

#1 - the news radio has torn him to shreds, but other than some schmucks talking, thats it. it has been widely accepted, as ARods seeming incompetence has

Everyone has torn Sheffield to Shreads, including News Shows that aren't even Sports Programs. His comments were just ignorant and everybody knows it and has called him out on it.

#2 - No evidence or suspicion has ARod ever being linked to steroids. He has the same body type as when he was younger (slightly bigger but in proportion, the growth was natural growth and weight gain) and being as he was touted since he was like 19 in Seattle, Its safe to say that his progress has not been unforseen

So because he hasn't yet been linked means that he is somehow clean? ....and you do realize that Steroid Abuse goes all the way down to High School Baseball, as long as you have the money to pay for them. Just because a player hasn't gotten significantly bigger in the public eye does in no way means they are innocent.

my problem isnt that hes not in the spot light but that he seems to only get attention when hes "failing." I remember ESPN had a 1month MVP of like 5 sports writers after April and ONLY ONE said it was ARod despite the fact that he tied records for RBIS and HRS in April

I didn't see the segment in Question, but MVP voting is a very subjective thing. He might not have gotten much support because the Yankees weren't winning at the time (ie: "The MVP Can't be on a Non-Contender" Syndrome), or it could be because the ESPN Analyists all figured that A-Rod would be the popular choice among the other Analyists that they went and picked someone else to be different. Regardless, if you watched ESPN during the month of April you would have gotten sick of the amount of positive coverage that Alex Rodriguez was getting at the time. He definately isn't lacking positive Media Coverage when he is doing well. It's just up until a week or so ago he wasn't doing much well for the media to cover.

 

[Capt. Comeback]

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So let me get this straight... You still think A-Rod is getting all the good attention he should deserve? :LMAO: A-Rod has gotten nothing but complete shit about how he has a bad month, or even a bad game for his entire Yankees career, not just this year. Everything he hits a HR, it's the same thing, "A-Rod jacks another one." When he strikes out once it's, "A-Rod blows it once again for the Yanks." He still leads the majors in HR's and RBI's. He's 2nd in runs scored, 24th lowest in SO's, but yet has hit 22 jacks with 56 RBI's and 52 runs scored in just 68 hits? You definitley live in your own fantasy world if you think Vilma is being a blind-sided Yankee fan.

 

[Nebkreb]

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ADOV - by that logic (the steroids one) you can suspect any succesful athlete of steroid use which would completely any and all athletics

 

[Jon_Vilma]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 8 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 8 2007, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're resulting to ad hominem proves your lack of evidence.</div>Haha, You're lack of a response of any substance shows that you know that I'm right.</div>You're right on what? You didn't say anything. Other than an elongated insult.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

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[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='94126' date='Jun 9 2007, 01:02 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='94112' date='Jun 8 2007, 05:49 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='94109' date='Jun 8 2007, 04:10 PM']You're resulting to ad hominem proves your lack of evidence.[/quote]Haha, You're lack of a response of any substance shows that you know that I'm right.[/quote]You're right on what? You didn't say anything. Other than an elongated insult.[/quote]You might want to re-read the First 2 Paragraphs, there wasn't a single 'insult' in there (You know as well as I do that the Average Yankee fan is a joke when they boo Alex Rodriguez so get off your high horse for a second and be realistic). If you want to take offense to anything there, then you just can't handle the truth.

ADOV - by that logic (the steroids one) you can suspect any succesful athlete of steroid use which would completely any and all athletics

You're right. But I'm not the one going around parading my star players as being 'clean' when there is no real proof to support such a statement either (Don't even bother giving me the MLB 'Drug Testing' Policy which we all know is a joke). How about a simple "I don't know" instead of playing the Innocent until Proven Guilty card when odds are probably about 50/50 of any given players Guilt.

So let me get this straight... You still think A-Rod is getting all the good attention he should deserve? A-Rod has gotten nothing but complete shit about how he has a bad month, or even a bad game for his entire Yankees career, not just this year. Everything he hits a HR, it's the same thing, "A-Rod jacks another one." When he strikes out once it's, "A-Rod blows it once again for the Yanks." He still leads the majors in HR's and RBI's. He's 2nd in runs scored, 24th lowest in SO's, but yet has hit 22 jacks with 56 RBI's and 52 runs scored in just 68 hits? You

Why would Alex Rodriguez get anything but shit when he had a bad month? He was terrible that month hitting .235. Did you really expect people to be kissing his ass when he wasn't hitting a damn thing? When Alex Rodriguez is hot (Like he was in April), he had entire segments on National Sports Shows dedicated to him. Even you said it, when he hits a Home Run, It's covered. When he strikes out in a big spot, It's covered. Outside of Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez is the most covered Athlete in Professional Sports. And it's not just all bad news. They cover the good news just as much as they cover the bad news.

 

[Nebkreb]

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albert pujols has had a shit year - nothing said about him (he wins an extremely undeserved Gold Glove, (which u agreed with) and no criticism. nothing

 

[Jon_Vilma]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jun 9 2007, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>albert pujols has had a shit year - nothing said about him (he wins an extremely undeserved Gold Glove, (which u agreed with) and no criticism. nothing</div>And he's a 'roider too. At least linked to them...

 

[AdropOFvenom]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jun 9 2007, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>albert pujols has had a shit year - nothing said about him (he wins an extremely undeserved Gold Glove, (which u agreed with) and no criticism. nothing</div>Alex Rodriguez - Yankees fans Boo him, Struggles Covered and Whored Out by National MediaAlbert Pujols - St Louis fans don't Boo him, Struggles Mentioned, but not whored out by National MediaCoincidence? Of course not. You're rediculous treatment of a great player is what makes it such a story. How can you not see that?

 

[chang]

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ADrop is right. If New York just treated him better, we wouldn't hear so much about him. When he was with Seattle and Texas, it wasn't even close to the coverage that A-Rod gets these days.And how is Pujols having a shit year? .298 13 HR 35 RBIs. Sure it's not his typical year but nowhere near shit. In fact, he's on pace to top Alex "Jesus Christ" Rodriguez's line last year.

 

[Brooksie5]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jun 9 2007, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>albert pujols has had a shit year - nothing said about him (he wins an extremely undeserved Gold Glove, (which u agreed with) and no criticism. nothing</div>But you more than likely think Jeter has deserved his six or whatever.. so we can't really listen to that.

 

[Capt. Comeback]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 9 2007, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Alex Rodriguez - Yankees fans Boo him, Struggles Covered and Whored Out by National MediaAlbert Pujols - St Louis fans don't Boo him, Struggles Mentioned, but not whored out by National Media</div>Because they don't realize they'd be nowhere near as good as they are without him. They see a guy who strikes out an average amount of times in a year, hits about average in HR's, with above-average BA, and among top in RBI's. Still they boo him because he's the easiest one to blame when they lose, he's supposed to be godly. The reason for this... because they thought he was god before he got there.This year he is on pace to beat out his HR record as a Yankee, bring in more RBI's than he has in NY already, and pretty much any other stat is improving. So, find me a great explanation as to why this is a coincidence. His numbers grow, but the booing gets louder and more frequent, coincidence?

 

[chang]

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^^I agree with everything but you can't say that the Yankees still wouldn't be considered contenders with the amount of talent they have (including injuries).

 

[Capt. Comeback]

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The Yankees have almost no chemistry. They are big name, some overpaid, players that can hit by themselves. They've dropped off tremendously in the past years and it shows being that they are under .500 with A-Rod having arguably his best season's start as a Yankee and a great start for any time in his career.

 

[Nebkreb]

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oddly enough, the 2 month losing has really brought the team together. They seem to be (after all, we cant really tell that much) much closer. Then again, this is all speculation. the '99-'01 yankees were very serious on the field, didnt seem to be a great chemistry team, but afterwards, in interviews, you could see that thye were superclose.