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So we know that center is a priority this summer. Let's look at some possible names that could be available and compare their numbers. If you can think of anyone else, let me know and I'll update it.

JaVale McGee -
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgeeja01.html
Pro:
25 years old (still pretty young)
Considered a defensive center
20.8 PER
Con:
Being paid $10 million per
Lower BBIQ
Not great numbers

DeAndre Jordan
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordade01.html
Pro:
24 years old (younger than McGee)
Slightly better numbers than McGee
Cons:
Being paid $10.5 million per (higher than McGee)
Lower PER than McGee (17.2)
Not great numbers

Nikola Pekovic
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pekovni01.html
Pros:
Still fairly young (27 years old)
Best stats of the bunch (16.3 ppg and 8.8 boards)
Good advanced stats (20.2 PER)
Cons:
Due for a big payday
Not a good defensive center
Restricted so a risk to sign

Omer Asik
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/asikom01.html
Pros:
Still young (26 years old)
Not being paid a ridiculous contract ($8.3 million this year)
Solid defender
Cons:
Only available if Houston gets Howard


Marcin Gortat
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gortama01.html
Pros:
Supposedly very available
Experienced player
Very reasonable contract
Cons:
Oldest of all the players (29)
Middle of the road stats

Per game comparison
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Advanced stats comparison
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I pass on Jordan and Pekovic. I'm interested in the other three.
 
KingSpeed said:
I pass on Jordan and Pekovic. I'm interested in the other three.
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Odd. I was going to say give me DeAndre or Pekovic based on that. They both have the highest win share, and Gortat has the lowest win share. According to those stats, DeAndre is the 2nd best offensively and the best defensively.
 
In another thread I came to the conclusion that Pekovic was our best option, so I will pick him.
 
If I was to vote on that list, I would pick Gortat or Asik (I don't think he will be available). Gortat has both the defense and offense we need. He is the best option, IMO.

You forgot Jefferson, Dalembert and that guy that just announced he is gay.
 
Guess it depends on available, I think others mayb could come available, like Asik, under just right circumstances.
I think there's the potential for Horford to come available, if Atlanta looked to make a big splash this offseason. I think maybe they can get better offers than what we send, but if they cleared his salary, they'd have the potential of going after Paul and Dwight and Josh Smith, surrounded by ring chaser minimums. Unlikely, for sure, but a small possibility.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Odd. I was going to say give me DeAndre or Pekovic based on that. They both have the highest win share, and Gortat has the lowest win share. According to those stats, DeAndre is the 2nd best offensively and the best defensively.
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Isn't Gortat's Win Share down because he was hurt for half the season though?

Edit: I guess his WS per 48 isn't all that hot either. Not sure how they calculate that though. I do know PHX was the worst team of the bunch.
 
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Why no Bynum on the list? He's available and he's way better than all those guys. Are we really ever going to win a championship with Gortat?
 
Yuck.

I'm almost ready to take a chance on Cousins.

I guess I like Asik the best for our needs, but his FT% isn't great and he's not going to be available.

Pekovic I guess.
 
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BBert said:
Yuck.

I'm almost ready to take a chance on Cousins.
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I think he's actually not a bad idea lately. Also, Since he stays in SacTown, i think the fans are more willing to accept him leaving too.
 
I don't think we would have the best deal to throw at them for Cousins. What could we offer? Batum, Meyers?
 
magnifier661 said:
If I was to vote on that list, I would pick Gortat or Asik (I don't think he will be available). Gortat has both the defense and offense we need. He is the best option, IMO.

You forgot Jefferson, Dalembert and that guy that just announced he is gay.
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According to the numbers, Gortat has the second "worst" D and the worst "O". I really think Gortat is a little overrated from playing with Nash. Gortat is probably who I want the least. I realize the numbers don't say it all, but he is 29 and I am aware he probably isn't the worst offensively, and he has solid assist numbers, he just doesn't do much for me. I'd rather risk a little on potential game changing ability (DeAndre's defense, Javales defense, Omers rebounding, Pekovic scoring and rebounding)
 
I'm not interested in Batum and 10 for Cousins, personally.
 
RR7 said:
I'm not interested in Batum and 10 for Cousins, personally.
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Yeah it seems a little steep, but Cousins (of potential and actual ability) is arguably one of the best young centers in the league. His mentality doesn't effect his production, but more of the production of others. Although, I suspect that one day he will grow up, just as Zach eventually did now. If Cousins actually got his head on straight, he could be one of the best. that's definitely a big "IF".

Batum is valuable, but I think we have that playmaker. We can also grab another playmaker with our available cap space "insert Igs".

Having this starting core isn't something to sneeze at.

PG: Lillard
SG: Matthews
SF: Iggy
PF: Aldridge
Center: Cousins

We would still have Leonard as a Hedge too
 
magnifier661 said:
Maybe we can include our pick?
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At that point, I think its too big of a risk

Taking an awful contract, not knowing which DMC we will be getting, giving up a decent lottery pick and Batum. That's giving up a lot for a risky player in DMC.

I was thinking Batum, Meyers, and maybe a future pick for DMC and some cash. Throw in second round picks I guess, but no way I'd give up #10 as well. way too much risk involved.

Unless it was Batum and 10 for DMC, no Salmons. I'd still struggle though, as I think the 10th pick this year could be a pretty solid SF in Shabazz or Giannis.
 
magnifier661 said:
Yeah it seems a little steep, but Cousins (of potential and actual ability) is arguably one of the best young centers in the league. His mentality doesn't effect his production, but more of the production of others. Although, I suspect that one day he will grow up, just as Zach eventually did now. If Cousins actually got his head on straight, he could be one of the best. that's definitely a big "IF".

Batum is valuable, but I think we have that playmaker. We can also grab another playmaker with our available cap space "insert Igs".

Having this starting core isn't something to sneeze at.

PG: Lillard
SG: Matthews
SF: Iggy
PF: Aldridge
Center: Cousins

We would still have Leonard as a Hedge too
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Im more worried about how he would affect those around him, rather than himself.

Will anyone want to lay it all on the line for him if he acts the way he (can on occasion) act? Its a huge IF, and his next suspension could be worse than the previous ones. Just so much risk involved, it would be tough to decide.

Also, that lineup looks great. Iggs is going to be pretty damn expensive though - I worry about not having a real 6th man.
 
magnifier661 said:
If I was to vote on that list, I would pick Gortat or Asik (I don't think he will be available). Gortat has both the defense and offense we need. He is the best option, IMO.

You forgot Jefferson, Dalembert and that guy that just announced he is gay.
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Jefferson is a power forward playing center. Picking Jefferson would essentially be keeping Hickson. Jason Collins is horrible. We aren't going after him.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Jefferson is a power forward playing center. Picking Jefferson would essentially be keeping Hickson. Jason Collins is horrible. We aren't going after him.
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Al Jeff is 610 290..

Dwight howard is 611 270something

Pekovic is 611 290

All power forwards, yeah?

For reference hickson was 6'9 240...
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Im more worried about how he would affect those around him, rather than himself.

Will anyone want to lay it all on the line for him if he acts the way he (can on occasion) act? Its a huge IF, and his next suspension could be worse than the previous ones. Just so much risk involved, it would be tough to decide.

Also, that lineup looks great. Iggs is going to be pretty damn expensive though - I worry about not having a real 6th man.
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I think there is a certain level of respect a young player will have on an existing established player. I think Matthews and Aldridge could keep him in check. In SacTown, he is the big fish, so he has this sense of "Me" on that team. When he goes to a team with an existing star big, I think he may defer more.
 
magnifier661 said:
I think there is a certain level of respect a young player will have on an existing established player. I think Matthews and Aldridge could keep him in check. In SacTown, he is the big fish, so he has this sense of "Me" on that team. When he goes to a team with an existing star big, I think he may defer more.
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I'm right there with you.

I just think Sac will ask for a lot more than I'd be willing to give for him.

Especially because it would leave us with a whole at SF, sixth man.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
I'm right there with you.

I just think Sac will ask for a lot more than I'd be willing to give for him.

Especially because it would leave us with a whole at SF, sixth man.
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I agree, but that whole isn't as much of an issue as a center. Personally I think the reward outweighs the risk. I like Batum, but I question just how good he can be, being the 3rd option. I think having Cousins would be a better 3rd option, IMO.
 
Still one "Unknown" option is Mozgov. He wants out of Denver if the situation stays the same.
One would conclude that he must suck if George did not give him any minutes. But I am a little suspicious of that. George coaches differently than others. He always has. I don't think a center in general fit in well with what he wanted to do this year. Let alone 3 of them. For much of the season they were pretty deep and played fast and small. Hard to get Mozgov minutes.

Karl even said a few months ago he felt sorry for the guy because he could play, he just didn't have room for him and George is not one to mix words. He is can be blunt and brutally honest.

All I am saying is don't sleep on Mozgov. He played well in NY in his short time there. Some in the NY media think the Knicks will go after him. We can offer more without going crazy.
 
I like Mozgov but if we went that option I would want to pair him with someone like Dalembert where both didn't haven't to play huge minutes.
 
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