Leonard vs Parsons vs Ryan Anderson

[Draco]

One nice thing about Parsons; he's still only eligible for the rookie extension max. So a max for him is $98 million over 4 years while for Batum/Anderson its $117 million over 4 years. That's a difference of $29 vs $24 million per year.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

You are correct. I wouldn't want to pay Anderson the max. As I said Parsons is by far the best of the 3. I didn't say I wouldn't pay him the max, I simply asked the question is he worth it. Probably 20 per, not 25.

I think there are like 8 players in the whole NBA worth true max personally so you are asking the wrong guy. If you don't pay it you don't get a player though. And Parsons' max is less than a lot of other players so that is nice.

 

[Sinobas]

I'd probably shoot for Parsons too, because I think Aminu should slide over to PF.

 

[dviss1]

I don't see any way Batum leaves Charlotte. They are desperate to keep him and will give him that 5th year which will make his contract over $158 million. No way he walks away from that.

Meh. I don't buy it.

 

[Scalma]

Parsons would never come to Portland, he's too Hollywood.

Get Derozan and Larry Sanders. Let Leonard go.

 

[Scalma]

Meh. I don't buy it.

Yeah, I actually think batum would take less to come back. But why would Olshey want him back? He traded him for a reason

 

[tester551]

Yeah, I actually think batum would take less to come back. But why would Olshey want him back? He traded him for a reason

Not a chance Nic wants to come back to Portland.I think he enjoyed his time here, but that is now all water under the bridge.

 

[Scalma]

Not a chance Nic wants to come back to Portland.I think he enjoyed his time here, but that is now all water under the bridge.

If he enjoyed his time in Portland, why wouldn't he come back? I'm European and all of us love comfort. It's why a lot of euros go back instead of staying in the league. Batum was comfortable in Portland. I think he'd come back in a second.

 

[KingSpeed]

Can we land all three?

 

[KingSpeed]

DViss.....easy to say who you don't want. Much harder to identify and stand behind a decision of who you WOULD want. Name one!

That said, we've got a lot of cap space and I'd love to see us go after Barnes and Anderson. Get them both. We need someone else shooting the open shots that are being taken by Aminu. He needs to be moved to a reserve level in the rotation IMO.

Could we also take a look at Larry Sanders on a smallish contract? Could he become the rim protector on D that we need?

Aminu has been shooting well from 3

 

[Draco]

If he enjoyed his time in Portland, why wouldn't he come back? I'm European and all of us love comfort. It's why a lot of euros go back instead of staying in the league. Batum was comfortable in Portland. I think he'd come back in a second.

$40 million.

 

[dviss1]

Yeah, I actually think batum would take less to come back. But why would Olshey want him back? He traded him for a reason

I'm not really believing we would bring him back. I just don't think he stays in Charlotte.

 

[kjironman1]

when comparing my 3-go to stats, the answer is fairly clear.
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Yep i did exactly the same thing. The decision if available would be Parsons no question. And he is 27 years old so he fits with the team.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Although probably like Meyers Leanard on this team. I love posts like this.

What the hell did this just say?

I assume he's trying to point out perceived homer-based hypocrisy in @dviss1 not wanting Parsons or Anderson due to defensive shortcomings, but being OK with Leonard despite the same. HOWEVER, what BGD is too myopic to notice is that dviss' post actually said he doesn't want any of the 3 on the team, which clearly includes Leonard. So basically, BGD's post was not only barely intelligible, but also a complete fail in content.

 

[dviss1]

I assume he's trying to point out perceived homer-based hypocrisy in @dviss1 not wanting Parsons or Anderson due to defensive shortcomings, but being OK with Leonard despite the same. HOWEVER, what BGD is too myopic to notice is that dviss' post actually said he doesn't want any of the 3 on the team, which clearly includes Leonard. So basically, BGD's post was not only barely intelligible, but also a complete fail in content.

Great color commentating!

 

[dviss1]

If the choice is between these three players I would not be upset with Neil spending money on Nic Batum. I would much rather have him then any of them. Money be damned. The caps going up next year who gives a shit? It ain't my money.

 

[Draco]

If the choice is between these three players I would not be upset with Neil spending money on Nic Batum. I would much rather have him then any of them. Money be damned. The caps going up next year who gives a shit? It ain't my money.

Well yeah it wouldn't hurt next year. But problem would be in 4 years when Nic is earning $35 million, Dame, CJ are both on max deals and we have no flexibility. The cap is going up the next two years but then it will actually go down the year after; meanwhile those guaranteed max contracts keep going up.

Maybe it would ultimately be a good move but it certainly has a chance of being a horrific contract at that time.

 

[dviss1]

The cap is going up the next two years but then it will actually go down the year after; meanwhile those guaranteed max contracts keep going up.

Link? I've never even heard of the salary cap going down. And even if it did go down why would Max contracts go up if they are to be a percentage of the cap?

 

[Scalma]

$40 million.

Funny, everyone was saying the same thing about Lamarcus.

 

[Strenuus]

I assume he's trying to point out perceived homer-based hypocrisy in @dviss1 not wanting Parsons or Anderson due to defensive shortcomings, but being OK with Leonard despite the same. HOWEVER, what BGD is too myopic to notice is that dviss' post actually said he doesn't want any of the 3 on the team, which clearly includes Leonard. So basically, BGD's post was not only barely intelligible, but also a complete fail in content.

Didn't the "I wouldn't want any of the 3" post from dviss not ring a bell?

Oh, right, we are talking about BGD. My bad.

 

[Draco]

Link? I've never even heard of the salary cap going down. And even if it did go down why would Max contracts go up if they are to be a percentage of the cap?

Max contracts are only a percentage of the cap in year 1. In year 2,3,4 they increase up to 7.5% from the previous season regardless of changes in the cap. So a max contract will be increasing while the cap is decreasing.

The cap going down was everywhere when projections came out last year. Zach Lowe has mentioned it multiple times. It's projected to go up to $108 million in 2017 then drop $8 million the following year. Probably just because those are the years TV money was structured to be more or less.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/17/8447839/nba-salary-cap-projection-free-agency-2016-2017

The salary cap is expected to fall to $100 million for the 2017-18, which could discourage teams from overspending too quickly.

 

[Draco]

Funny, everyone was saying the same thing about Lamarcus.

Its not a cost for LaMarcus because he can get more money a year earlier on his next contract and he's an all-star. I have a hard time believing Batum expects to cash in more than $158 million he can grab from Charlotte.

For the sake of argument even if he did leave all that money it would be for an NY, LA type of market. I can't see him leaving a ton of money on the table with a playoff team to return to the team that didn't want him.

 

[BlayZa]

I dunno if im sold on any of them TBH

We need to sort out the starting lineup.

Getting a SF would just complicate things even more, we have enough cover at that spot with aminu, henderson, crabbe, harkless etc
We need to figure out WTF is happening @ PF more than anything, and it sure as shit isn't Meyers Leonard.

maybe a Dame, CJ, Crabbe, Aminu, Plum or Dame, CJ, Aminu, Davis, Plum could work, but we need to first figure out the core starting unit - long haul unit - and fill the gaps around that.

arbitrarily adding random people is a bad move.

we still need a legit starting PF & a solid backup PG.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Ryan Anderson for me. Perfect PF for th Stotts system.

Both players are pretty much on the same tier.

 

[dviss1]

Max contracts are only a percentage of the cap in year 1. In year 2,3,4 they increase up to 7.5% from the previous season regardless of changes in the cap. So a max contract will be increasing while the cap is decreasing.

The cap going down was everywhere when projections came out last year. Zach Lowe has mentioned it multiple times. It's projected to go up to $108 million in 2017 then drop $8 million the following year. Probably just because those are the years TV money was structured to be more or less.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/4/17/8447839/nba-salary-cap-projection-free-agency-2016-2017

Thanks for the link.

 

[dviss1]

We still need a legit starting PF & a solid backup PG.

How long is Roberts contract?

 

[BlayZa]

How long is Roberts contract?

He's an unrestricted FA at the end of the season.

I understand also the guys listed are being called 'PF's but cmon now.... I don't want a stretch PF or one that camps on the 3 and cant rebound, or wont hit the boards with determination.

I want a banger, paint dwelling, pick setting, key enforcing, hard, traditional PF.

 

[Draco]

He's an unrestricted FA at the end of the season.

I understand also the guys listed are being called 'PF's but cmon now.... I don't want a stretch PF or one that camps on the 3 and cant rebound, or wont hit the boards with determination.

I want a banger, paint dwelling, pick setting, key enforcing, hard, traditional PF.

Are you from 1984?

Those players are out of the league or ineffective.

I want whoever gives us the best chance to win.

 

[Draco]

How long is Roberts contract?

Why do we need a backup PG if Stotts won't play him on back to backs or 4 in 5 nights?

 

[BlayZa]

Why do we need a backup PG if Stotts won't play him on back to backs or 4 in 5 nights?

cause running dame into the ground every season is only going to work for so long.....