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Congratulations to Abigail Hayes! I know Dennis Hayes and the family from when I attended church with them in Clackamas back in the day. Abigail was such a tot back then. Amazing how time flies!

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I would've hope the prerequisite of winning is that you don't attend a fake university.
 
I would've hope the prerequisite of winning is that you don't attend a fake university.

Why would attending any university have to be a factor/prerequisite?
 
Why would attending any university have to be a factor/prerequisite?

because then it's just a "hey, she's cute!" pageant.
 
I see. So, go ahead and discriminate against someone who may not have been able to afford, or otherwise attend college.

so that's the hill you're going to die on?
 
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Sure, and you can go ahead die on your fake college hill.

it's a college that teaches from a "biblical" point of view. You don't get much more fake than that.
 
it's a college that teaches from a "biblical" point of view. You don't get much more fake than that.

I call that discrimination.
 
it's a college that teaches from a "biblical" point of view. You don't get much more fake than that.

Eh, I have a friend who went to a Lutheran college. She's now a pretty successful nurse practitioner. With that said, we had a pretty massive falling out after he first year at the school because she went full Jesus. She came home for the summer and was insanely judgy. We didn't talk for a couple years and she reached out and seemed to have broken out of that funk. Now she's one of those people who lives on facebook talking about women's rights, anti gun, BLM, etc. I guess she's one of those people who buys in hard on an ideology, whatever that may be. I'm much too lazy to be that passionate about any particular belief system.
 
Eh, I have a friend who went to a Lutheran college. She's now a pretty successful nurse practitioner. With that said, we had a pretty massive falling out after he first year at the school because she went full Jesus. She came home for the summer and was insanely judgy. We didn't talk for a couple years and she reached out and seemed to have broken out of that funk. Now she's one of those people who lives on facebook talking about women's rights, anti gun, BLM, etc. I guess she's one of those people who buys in hard on an ideology, whatever that may be. I'm much too lazy to be that passionate about any particular belief system.

I would take someone going to PLU, or U of P far more seriously than a university created by Jerry Falwell.

if someone wants to say that Jerry Falwell U is on par with U of P, or PLU, then they've already buried their heads so far in the sandbox, they're not worth talking to.
 
I would take someone going to PLU, or U of P far more seriously than a university created by Jerry Falwell.

if someone wants to say that Jerry Falwell U is on par with U of P, or PLU, then they've already buried their heads so far in the sandbox, they're not worth talking to.

Personally I don't think religion has any place near education. Just as I don't think it has any place near medicine.

I don't need the Bible's take on actual events that can be historically verified. A book of fables and legends can be lumped in with all the other hokey religions of the Norse, Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians.
 
Personally I don't think religion has any place near education. Just as I don't think it has any place near medicine.

I don't need the Bible's take on actual events that can be historically verified. A book of fables and legends can be lumped in with all the other hokey religions of the Norse, Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians.

Agreed 100%.
 
Eh, I have a friend who went to a Lutheran college. She's now a pretty successful nurse practitioner. With that said, we had a pretty massive falling out after he first year at the school because she went full Jesus. She came home for the summer and was insanely judgy. We didn't talk for a couple years and she reached out and seemed to have broken out of that funk. Now she's one of those people who lives on facebook talking about women's rights, anti gun, BLM, etc. I guess she's one of those people who buys in hard on an ideology, whatever that may be. I'm much too lazy to be that passionate about any particular belief system.

Except for the “Terry Stotts Sucks and Must Go” belief system. You were on steroids with that one……
 
Personally I don't think religion has any place near education. Just as I don't think it has any place near medicine.

I don't need the Bible's take on actual events that can be historically verified. A book of fables and legends can be lumped in with all the other hokey religions of the Norse, Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians.

I studied the Bible in college...a non religious college...from a historical perspective. Though there are many parables, many parts of it can be historically verfied.
 
I studied the Bible in college...a non religious college...from a historical perspective. Though there are many parables, many parts of it can be historically verfied.

Many parts.... except the most important ones :devilwink:
 
Kinda dealing with this right now. My daughters Top 3 colleges she wants to attend just so happen to be private Catholic universities. She has never been in a church except for a funeral or wedding. Going to be interesting.
 
Kinda dealing with this right now. My daughters Top 3 colleges she wants to attend just so happen to be private Catholic universities. She has never been in a church except for a funeral or wedding. Going to be interesting.

Why does she want to go to a Catholic school if she isn't religious?
 
Why does she want to go to a Catholic school if she isn't religious?

If she's good enough to go to the NWSL, eventually, it is good to go to a power school for soccer. However, if she's realistic and realizes that her chances of making it as a professional soccer player are slim, she'd be best to go to a college that A: offers what she's interested in doing for her life and B: offers the most scholarships/ etc.
 
If she's good enough to go to the NWSL, eventually, it is good to go to a power school for soccer. However, if she's realistic and realizes that her chances of making it as a professional soccer player are slim, she'd be best to go to a college that A: offers what she's interested in doing for her life and B: offers the most scholarships/ etc.

Scholarships are a big one. That would definitely be a major focus if this was my kid.
 
Why does she want to go to a Catholic school if she isn't religious?
She just finished up her sophomore year of HS. College recruiting for soccer officially started this week. She had a list of about 25 schools that she sent out her resume/highlights/grades…….to. Her preferences were based on location/majors available/soccer program. Usually these kids sign their senior season, but 3 of her top choices reached out to her at 12:01am! So it’s narrowed down to UofP, Gonzaga and Loyola Marymount. We haven’t even discussed the religious side of things yet. It’s not a deal breaker if they want to give her scholarships and pay for her education.
 
She just finished up her sophomore year of HS. College recruiting for soccer officially started this week. She had a list of about 25 schools that she sent out her resume/highlights/grades…….to. Her preferences were based on location/majors available/soccer program. Usually these kids sign their senior season, but 3 of her top choices reached out to her at 12:01am! So it’s narrowed down to UofP, Gonzaga and Loyola Marymount. We haven’t even discussed the religious side of things yet. It’s not a deal breaker if they want to give her scholarships and pay for her education.

These days if you can get through college free and clear, you have a MAJOR leg up on everyone else your age.
 
She just finished up her sophomore year of HS. College recruiting for soccer officially started this week. She had a list of about 25 schools that she sent out her resume/highlights/grades…….to. Her preferences were based on location/majors available/soccer program. Usually these kids sign their senior season, but 3 of her top choices reached out to her at 12:01am! So it’s narrowed down to UofP, Gonzaga and Loyola Marymount. We haven’t even discussed the religious side of things yet. It’s not a deal breaker if they want to give her scholarships and pay for her education.
I'd convert to scientology if they offered to pay my student loans off.
 

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