Cops killed man at Walmart, then interrogated girlfriend

[SlyPokerDog]

Watch the video.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/justice/walmart-shooting-john-crawford/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The whole world has gone insane.

 

[Natebishop3]

The whole world has gone insane.

Fear culture.

 

[MarAzul]

Geez, these dumb ass cops keep this crap up, we will have the Federal Police in every state and mayhem will be the rule.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Cuz training.

That's the answer they give every time it seems like.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Fear culture.

Don't know what to say.

 

[MARIS61]

Murder.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

"as a result of his actions he is gone" '

c.unt

 

[blue32]

Wow unreal. I took the wrong stance on the Ohio thing until clearer details came out. I conceded that the initial details were in favor of the police but the real information (video) proved otherwise, thus I my initial opinion was wrong.

Now this among the others that keep happening. I don't even know what to say. It just seems crazy that the police hire people and their first instinct is to shoot. Out of all the training they receive, that is what they do first?

 

[julius]

It's like the police don't realize that they're being recorded sometimes.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

It's like the police don't realize that they're being recorded sometimes.

They don't care, grand juries don't do shit to them.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I've been beating this drum for years, fuck pigs

 

[PDXFonz]

I've been beating this drum for years, fuck pigs

That's the same drum that causes these idiots to do this shit. No one person or circumstance is alike...

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yes, its my fault that he was shot to death by a moron. Good point.

 

[PDXFonz]

Yes, its my fault that he was shot to death by a moron. Good point.

No but it is your fault for continuing the toxic pattern of thinking.

 

[PDXFonz]

I bet they sprinkled some crack on him and then called it in.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No but it is your fault for continuing the toxic pattern of thinking.

Stupidest shit on this website. Lillard for Conley threads are like War and Peace compared to this retreadation.

 

[PDXFonz]

Stupidest shit on this website. Lillard for Conley threads are like War and Peace compared to this retreadation.

Sit in the dark for all I care bodyman. If you really, truthfully agree with a statement such as "fuck pigs" then you might as well start up police concentration camps. Only an idiot would take a few instances of evil people commiting immoral acts and assume it defines an entire group.

You do yourself a great injustice by ignoring reason and living based on emotion.

In my book some one who gives no thought deserves no thought.

 

[MarAzul]

Come on guys! You are flogging the wrong horse! You can not expect the Grand Juries to indict a police officer when he is performing as trained and he is trained to support police policy and proceedures. You need to get the leadership of your cities to change the Police policy and modify these proceedures. Changes in the Black community also need to be made but no need to wait for that heavy lift before getting the police policy changes made.

Lot of voices here, make them heard where it is needed.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Sit in the dark for all I care bodyman. If you really, truthfully agree with a statement such as "fuck pigs" then you might as well start up police concentration camps. Only an idiot would take a few instances of evil people commiting immoral acts and assume it defines an entire group.

You do yourself a great injustice by ignoring reason and living based on emotion.

In my book some one who gives no thought deserves no thought.

If every human on Earth screams fuck pigs at every cop every time they see them every day for the rest of eternity that doesn't cause or excuse the shit that happened.

The post after yours by MarAzul is literally the stuff that needs to be talked about.

I don't know where you get the ability to feel that a thought process of distrust for the police should require the public to change and not the police, but if you were raised to use emotion instead of logic you should be angry. Maybe I don't even understand what the fuck you are even trying to say.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Come on guys! You are flogging the wrong horse! You can not expect the Grand Juries to indict a police officer when he is performing as trained and he is trained to support police policy and proceedures. You need to get the leadership of your cities to change the Police policy and modify these proceedures. Changes in the Black community also need to be made but no need to wait for that heavy lift before getting the police policy changes made.

Lot of voices here, make them heard where it is needed.

I do question if it is policy to just shoot a guy that isn't pointing a weapon at someone. I couldn't find a link last time I looked but 5 years ago or so a Metro cop shot a handcuffed murder suspect and killed him as he ran from the cops. I though the cop was fucked, but in Nevada it was a legal shoot.

 

[PDXFonz]

Come on guys! You are flogging the wrong horse! You can not expect the Grand Juries to indict a police officer when he is performing as trained and he is trained to support police policy and proceedures. You need to get the leadership of your cities to change the Police policy and modify these proceedures. Changes in the Black community also need to be made but no need to wait for that heavy lift before getting the police policy changes made.

Lot of voices here, make them heard where it is needed.

What changes? I don't know what some of these men and children could have done differently other than not leave the house that day... Don't pick up anything resembling a gun if you are black? What about when cell phones are mistaken for guns? Don't use a cell phone if you are black?

The only changes that need to happen are for the human race to love each other instead of fighting each other. There's no need to worry about somebody with a gun shooting you if we choose not to shoot people with guns.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

What changes? Their skin color? I don't know what some of these men and children could have done differently other than not leave the house that day... Don't pick up anything resembling a gun if you are black? What about when cell phones are mistaken for guns? Don't use a cell phone if you are black?

Talk about living in the dark, no pun intended.

 

[PDXFonz]

Talk about living in the dark, no pun intended.

???

 

[PDXFonz]

If every human on Earth screams fuck pigs at every cop every time they see them every day for the rest of eternity that doesn't cause or excuse the shit that happened.

The post after yours by MarAzul is literally the stuff that needs to be talked about.

I don't know where you get the ability to feel that a thought process of distrust for the police should require the public to change and not the police, but if you were raised to use emotion instead of logic you should be angry. Maybe I don't even understand what the fuck you are even trying to say.

If I asked you if it was going to rain later on in the evening I bet you would do 1 of 2 things. Either look at a weather report and repeat what you read, or look to the sky and make your own assumptions. Say it is raining at the time the question is asked. You would likely cite current conditions towards your reasoning of why it is likely to continue, or stop.

The fact of the matter is you cannot look at a cloud and assume it is going to rain, nor is a clear sky reason to believe it won't, but we are so used to rain accompanying clouds that it is easy to assume a gray sky is an indication of impending rainfall.

Now this is where I would partially agree with what Marazul said. However the black community is in no way solely responsible for the gun violence in this country, there are no changes that need to be made singularly in the black community.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

If I asked you if it was going to rain later on in the evening I bet you would do 1 of 2 things. Either look at a weather report and repeat what you read, or look to the sky and make your own assumptions. Say it is raining at the time the question is asked. You would likely cite current conditions towards your reasoning of why it is likely to continue, or stop.

The fact of the matter is you cannot look at a cloud and assume it is going to rain, nor is a clear sky reason to believe it won't, but we are so used to rain accompanying clouds that it is easy to assume a gray sky is an indication of impending rainfall.

Now this is where I would partially agree with what Marazul said. However the black community is in no way solely responsible for the gun violence in this country, there are no changes that need to be made singularly in the black community.

Put down the crack pipe Dr. Phil.

Your own ridiculous example doesn't even mean what you think it means.

1. If you asked me if it was going to rain later I'd tell you to check your phone.
2. If you look at a huge dark cloud, there will be rain. When or where doesn't matter, it will rain eventually.

3. If young black males continue to look talk act gangster, there will be robbing and killing. They repeat that shit like parrots. It is and should be just as embarrassing for the so called black community as redneck trailer park meth freaks embarrass me.

That dude in Walmart may not have given a second thought to what he was doing. The asshole cop didn't either. He got a call and snuck in and wasted that dude.

I can't say if the cop wouldn't have shot me like that, hell it seems most of the crazed gunman types are white so you'd think he'd be more likely to shoot me.

MarAzul is right. I've always thought it seemed fucked up that our military wastes innocent people with Drones to get one or two targets. Well, it seems that those type of procedures are coming to our home towns.

 

[PDXFonz]

Put down the crack pipe Dr. Phil.

Your own ridiculous example doesn't even mean what you think it means.

1. If you asked me if it was going to rain later I'd tell you to check your phone.
2. If you look at a huge dark cloud, there will be rain. When or where doesn't matter, it will rain eventually.

3. If young black males continue to look talk act gangster, there will be robbing and killing. They repeat that shit like parrots. It is and should be just as embarrassing for the so called black community as redneck trailer park meth freaks embarrass me.

That dude in Walmart may not have given a second thought to what he was doing. The asshole cop didn't either. He got a call and snuck in and wasted that dude.

I can't say if the cop wouldn't have shot me like that, hell it seems most of the crazed gunman types are white so you'd think he'd be more likely to shoot me.

MarAzul is right. I've always thought it seemed fucked up that our military wastes innocent people with Drones to get one or two targets. Well, it seems that those type of procedures are coming to our home towns.

And back to square one. It was worth a try but I can see you are too deeply ingrained in the thought process of #3. Part of me still believes you genuinely aren't as Xenophobic as you come across, but it is hard to tell being as this is just a message board composed of electronic text.

I can't even tell which standpoint you are taking anymore. You've gone from hating police officers to claiming they wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for the way the black community acts as a whole...Then I realized I am arguing with the person who wished physical violence on somebody because of advertisements on a web page. Like trying to hold a verbal conversation with a mime, I'm a fool to have been roped in to such an obvious losing battle.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The debate is great but the personal attacks and insults need to stop.

Thanks

 

[MarAzul]

I do question if it is policy to just shoot a guy that isn't pointing a weapon at someone. I couldn't find a link last time I looked but 5 years ago or so a Metro cop shot a handcuffed murder suspect and killed him as he ran from the cops. I though the cop was fucked, but in Nevada it was a legal shoot.

We have at least three diffenent situations being discussed currently.

! Ferguson
2. Staten Is New York
3 The kid in Cleveland and the Guy in Walmart.

Different from each other. The Ferguson case was no fault of the police officer, the fault was with both the Kid (Brown) and police procedure.

The New York Staten Is incident is sort of strange. It appears the police were found to be following proper procedure but it was clearly the wrong procedure. So why the hell is the Mayor of the City howling about race?? Hell the man is the boss and the precise guy that should begin to change the procedure! Instead, he is hamming it up with Al Sharpton.

The other two are not so clear to me. Is that police procedure to blow away a guy with a gun (air or not) so quickly after issuing a command? Hell I am not so sure the dead guys ever heard the command or understood it. If that is proper proceedure then it has to change right now. Else the cop should be charged.

Then there is the thing were Black people (some) view the role of police differently than the other races. Long term that has to change but until it does, the police need to adjust their procedure to account for the difference. They really do need to minimize the possibility of giving guys like Brown the opportunity to try and intimidate a cop. Again by proper procedure.

Most won't like to hear that you need to police the Black community differently but I do think the cultural difference do dictate that reality.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

And back to square one. It was worth a try but I can see you are too deeply ingrained in the thought process of #3. Part of me still believes you genuinely aren't as Xenophobic as you come across, but it is hard to tell being as this is just a message board composed of electronic text.

I can't even tell which standpoint you are taking anymore. You've gone from hating police officers to claiming they wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for the way the black community acts as a whole...Then I realized I am arguing with the person who wished physical violence on somebody because of advertisements on a web page. Like trying to hold a verbal conversation with a mime, I'm a fool to have been roped in to such an obvious losing battle.

I understand hyperbole and use it. You are unable to read anything and not take it literally. It isn't a personal attack to urge someone to seek counseling ( I don't think)