OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

[illmatic99]

As previously mentioned, not everyone is touting the wearing of masks.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PbZTlxaEb2oP/

I am not clicking that link. Do you also believe you exhale carbon monoxide?

 

[RR7]

As previously mentioned, not everyone is touting the wearing of masks.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PbZTlxaEb2oP/

3 minutes in, heard no mention of masks, does he argue against wearing masks in his video? Not sitting through all of that.

 

[illmatic99]

Will you please show your wife how to log onto this site so she can let us know when you are in ICU? I’m sure there are plenty of us who would like to send “thoughts and prayers”.........along with an “I told you so.”..............

Better yet, make him sign some notarized form to prevent him taking away medical resources from someone who actually complies with common sense.

 

[illmatic99]

I learned from the rude, self centered prick in the White House (the mean part, that is.....no humor to be had in the White House.......at least intentional humor......). And it’s the morons who refuse to wear the mask that are going to keep this bullshit going waaaayyyyyy longer than it should. The gloves are off.....and going to stay off.....until the dumbshits either wise up or die of their own pure stupidity......

Reached this level of frustration a few months ago. Welcome.

 

[tlongII]

People should wear masks until a vaccine is available. It's common sense.

 

[illmatic99]

What worries me most is the inevitable jump in fatalities that will come in the next week or so. The death rate closely mimics the positive case rate but there's an obvious latency to when the former will manifest. The huge uptick in positive cases resulting from Memorial day, BLM protests, political rallies, states re-opening too fast will lead to an eventual huge uptick in deaths.

We are still WORSE now by almost every metric than we were in April. How is that even possible? You want the country to re-open fully and come back to normal? Wear a fucking mask-- it's the least you can do.

 

[e_blazer]

I went to Home Depot yesterday and everyone was wearing a mask as required. Of course, you see the dipsticks who game the system by pulling the mask down so their nose isn’t covered. Man, was I tempted to pick up a 2x4 and “accidentally” smack the guy doing that near me in the beak.

 

[tlongII]

What worries me most is the inevitable jump in fatalities that will come in the next week or so. The death rate closely mimics the positive case rate but there's an obvious latency to when the former will manifest. The huge uptick in positive cases resulting from Memorial day, BLM protests, political rallies, states re-opening too fast will lead to an eventual huge uptick in deaths.

We are still WORSE now by almost every metric than we were in April. How is that even possible? You want the country to re-open fully and come back to normal? Wear a fucking mask-- it's the least you can do.

Nah the uptick in deaths won’t be as significant as the positive cases.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

I went to Home Depot yesterday and everyone was wearing a mask as required. Of course, you see the dipsticks who game the system by pulling the mask down so their nose isn’t covered. Man, was I tempted to pick up a 2x4 and “accidentally” smack the guy doing that near me in the beak.

 

[wizenheimer]

3 minutes in, heard no mention of masks, does he argue against wearing masks in his video? Not sitting through all of that.

brian proctor is a doctor and darling of the far-right because he's made claims he 'cured' Covid with HCQ and zinc. Claims that have been discredited enough that both youtube and facebook have removed his videos.

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more specifically, what Proctor said:

* While the effectiveness of Procter’s stated training regimen is unproven, however, his statements also contain several claims that have already been debunked. For instance, in the video he criticizes the use of facial coverings and social distancing to mitigate the spread of the virus:

"Wearing masks is kind of ridiculous as a long-term solution. There’s no proven data about this. Another thing you need to know is, this prevents us from developing passive immunity; if you’re out in the public and you contract some disease and you develop antibodies to this you could passively potentially give your antibodies to someone else and their own immune system might develop an immunity to the same disease. So wearing masks all the time’s just not what our body is built for. No one talks about that, of course." *
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in other words, the fool is making a bet, for you, that you'll have better odds of somehow passively acquiring the anti-bodies from someone who has survived Covid than acquiring the virus from someone who has Covid. Just think about that a moment or two
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more:

* Contrary to his argument, several studies have already demonstrated that both the use of masks and maintaining social distancing when possible have shown positive results.

LaMere also responded to Procter’s claims regarding face coverings and “passive immunity”:

"We do not passively transfer antibodies to each other. The only case where this happens is when neonates get colostrum from their mothers, but otherwise we aren’t sharing antibodies with other people. Exposure to pathogens on an individual basis is how we develop them." *

and:

* "If he is trying to (poorly) argue that we are preventing herd immunity, the thing to understand here is that herd immunity only develops once a certain percentage of the population has developed immunity to a pathogen. This does not happen passively. It either happens when a large percentage has contracted the virus, or a large percentage has been vaccinated. In the first scenario, if 70% of our population is infected with SARS-CoV-2, in the United States that will correspond to the death of nearly 1 million people before we achieve herd immunity, and that is using the very conservative estimate of a 0.4% infection fatality rate. If we assume the infection fatality is closer to 1%, then it means the death of well over 2 million people. In a perfect world we would instead achieve herd immunity using a vaccine, which would result in substantially less loss of life. Until we have vaccines and/or better therapeutics, social distancing and masks to prevent viral spread are our best tools to prevent a substantial death toll.

Our bodies weren’t built to wear shoes either, but that doesn’t mean they provide no benefit." *

https://www.truthorfiction.com/my-name-is-brian-c-procter-covid-19/

(and of course, we don't know with any certainty that herd immunity is even possible with Covid. Some data suggests immunity is so short-term we'd never get there)
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that doctor isn't dispensing sound medical advise....he's pumping out his theories and he's quacking when he does

shit like that is piled high on right-wing websites. People like ABM can find any contrary "perspective" they want to refute reality and that's what he did in this case. It's pretty easy to recognize the horseshit though

 

[ABM]

Anti-maskers are the biggest idiots of the lot.

1. The virus is spread thru air droplets that people dispense through their nose/mouth.

2. A face covering will catch at least some of those air droplets and prevent the spread.

Not acknowledging basic facts and politicizing it is the work of people with reduced mental faculties.

K. Tell that to Sweden.

 

[wizenheimer]

I went to Home Depot yesterday and everyone was wearing a mask as required. Of course, you see the dipsticks who game the system by pulling the mask down so their nose isn’t covered. Man, was I tempted to pick up a 2x4 and “accidentally” smack the guy doing that near me in the beak.

those Home Depot carts in the lumber section are at least 6 feet long. You could have loaded one up with heavy items like bags of cement on top of 10 foot 2X4's and ran his ass down while still social distancing. Accidental you know...oops!

 

[ABM]

People like ABM can find any contrary "perspective" they want to refute reality and that's what he did in this case. It's pretty easy to recognize the horseshit though

Again, tell that to Sweden.

 

[Chris Craig]

K. Tell that to Sweden.

What about Sweden. They basically are doing what Trump wants us to do here. No lockdowns and masks are frowned upon. Death rate is 30% higher than the U.S. Their people are sick and dying and their economy is getting hit even harder because they didnt take precautions. Pretending the virus doesn't exist and going about life as usual doesn't work. Sweden has proven this.

 

[ehizzy3]

What about Sweden. They basically are doing what Trump wants us to do here. No lockdowns and masks are frowned upon. Death rate is 30% higher than the U.S. Their people are sick and dying and their economy is getting hit even harder because they didnt take precautions. Pretending the virus doesn't exist and going about life as usual doesn't work. Sweden has proven this.

they are investigating the Swedish government because of their response

but ABM saw on the proud boys fb page to use Sweden as a talking point

 

[THE HCP]

K. Tell that to Sweden.

It’s comments like this that’s the reason you are treated the way you are in here. You think before you type? You don’t really think like this do you?

 

[wizenheimer]

Again, tell that to Sweden.

you are behind the times. Sweden tried to go the herd immunity route to save their economy. They didn't develop herd immunity and they didn't save their economy

just like the US, they don't mandate mask use, but they do mandate social distancing in public places like restaurants and bars and have strongly encouraged people to stay home. Those are still the recommendations and policies from the national government and they go further than trump ever has. And as the virus spread, more and more people in Sweden started to wear masks.

I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth with you on mask-wearing. I've seen your act enough to know you'll keep bleating out right-wing talking points and there's no upside in debate.

 

[ABM]

What about Sweden. They basically are doing what Trump wants us to do here. No lockdowns and masks are frowned upon. Death rate is 30% higher than the U.S. Their people are sick and dying and their economy is getting hit even harder because they didnt take precautions. Pretending the virus doesn't exist and going about life as usual doesn't work. Sweden has proven this.

K

https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-flattening-the-curve-and-new-york-failed/

 

[ABM]

It’s comments like this that’s the reason you are treated the way you are in here. You think before you type? You don’t really think like this do you?

https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-flattening-the-curve-and-new-york-failed/

 

[ABM]

you are behind the times. Sweden tried to go the herd immunity route to save their economy. They didn't develop herd immunity and they didn't save their economy

just like the US, they don't mandate mask use, but they do mandate social distancing in public places like restaurants and bars and have strongly encouraged people to stay home. Those are still the recommendations and policies from the national government and they go further than trump ever has. And as the virus spread, more and more people in Sweden started to wear masks.

I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth with you on mask-wearing. I've seen your act enough to know you'll keep bleating out right-wing talking points and there's no upside in debate.

https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-flattening-the-curve-and-new-york-failed/

 

[ABM]

Wear your masks, folks.

 

[CupWizier]

Again, tell that to Sweden.

What I would tell Sweden is they have more deaths than Florida does and only about 1/2 the people and Florida is considered a failed reopening experiment and one of the worst hit states. Sweden would be even worse by comparison if they were in the USA.

Next!

 

[ABM]

What I would tell Sweden is they have more deaths than Florida does and only about 1/2 the people and Florida is considered a failed reopening experiment and one of the worst hit states. Sweden would be even worse by comparison if they were in the USA.

Next!

https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-flattening-the-curve-and-new-york-failed/

 

[RR7]

That article says NY failed in flattening their curve, but NY's curve is flattened, so...

Sweden has a population density of 63 people per square mile.
NYC has a population density of 27,000 people per square mile! Look at that absurd difference in population density.

 

[Propagandist]

https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-flattening-the-curve-and-new-york-failed/

https://www.obscurepublications.gtfo/how-the-gullible-and-the-impressionable-in-the-united-states-embarrass-the-rest-of-us-by-their-utter-lack-of-self-awareness/

 

[e_blazer]

K. Tell that to Sweden.

What is it that you want to tell them? They screwed up and it's biting them in the butt:

"Sweden now has one of the highest death rates in the world — almost 44 per 100,000 people. The number of U.S. deaths per 100,000 is just over 32. In Denmark, it’s 10, and in Norway, less than five."

"Sweden’s economy, meanwhile, is expected to shrink a punishing 7% this year, about the same as that of the rest of the European Union. And Swedes may be blocked from other countries opening up as part of an effort to close the doors to high-risk COVID-19 areas."

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/06/08/sweden-backtracks-on-its-low-pain-coronavirus-plan/

 

[e_blazer]

https://www.obscurepublications.gtfo/how-the-gullible-and-the-impressionable-in-the-united-states-embarrass-the-rest-of-us-by-their-utter-lack-of-self-awareness/

Link doesn't work for me.

 

[Propagandist]

What is it that you want to tell them? They screwed up and it's biting them in the butt:

"Sweden now has one of the highest death rates in the world — almost 44 per 100,000 people. The number of U.S. deaths per 100,000 is just over 32. In Denmark, it’s 10, and in Norway, less than five."

"Sweden’s economy, meanwhile, is expected to shrink a punishing 7% this year, about the same as that of the rest of the European Union. And Swedes may be blocked from other countries opening up as part of an effort to close the doors to high-risk COVID-19 areas."

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/06/08/sweden-backtracks-on-its-low-pain-coronavirus-plan/

What's the "bostonherald.com"? I get my news from BITCHute.org.

 

[ehizzy3]

https://www.obscurepublications.gtfo/how-the-gullible-and-the-impressionable-in-the-united-states-embarrass-the-rest-of-us-by-their-utter-lack-of-self-awareness/

its really sad how acceptable it became to be factually wrong

 

[wizenheimer]

That article says NY failed in flattening their curve, but NY's curve is flattened, so...

Sweden has a population density of 63 people per square mile.
NYC has a population density of 27,000 people per square mile! Look at that absurd difference in population density.

like I said, there's a buffet of context-less bullshit on right-wing websites that ABM can post to sidestep any common sense argument made here