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Im so pissed off at Oregon response on vaccine roll out and being near last in the whole country. She did this with testings as well.
Leave it up to state government bureaucracy to perform a priority endeavor well. baloney!
 
Phatguysrule said:
Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-wards-full-children-first-145710680.html

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-glob...alysis/covid-19/report-42-sars-cov-2-variant/

This can get real real bad, incredibly quick.
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I've been looking at this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...TOcz3lxjQYK8lTbQUliDBIMVTL2-tTYMjGzjwdlBKrG1c

This is very concerning. Check out Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

It's getting to the point that if you have someone in LA that needs to go to the hospital you're going to start looking around to find hospitals that aren't overwhelmed. Do you want your loved one sitting in a hallway for 2 days waiting for a hospital bed or do you throw them in the car and take them somewhere that isn't full?

If just 50 people from California do this and our hospitals are full.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I've been looking at this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-hospitals-near-you.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage&fbclid=IwAR0cIq7vvcHR7ETOcz3lxjQYK8lTbQUliDBIMVTL2-tTYMjGzjwdlBKrG1c

This is very concerning. Check out Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

It's getting to the point that if you have someone in LA that needs to go to the hospital you're going to start looking around to find hospitals that aren't overwhelmed. Do you want your loved one sitting in a hallway for 2 days waiting for a hospital bed or do you throw them in the car and take them somewhere that isn't full?

If just 50 people from California do this and our hospitals are full.
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Its ridiculous the USS MERCY wasn't called a month ago
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I've been looking at this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...TOcz3lxjQYK8lTbQUliDBIMVTL2-tTYMjGzjwdlBKrG1c

This is very concerning. Check out Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

It's getting to the point that if you have someone in LA that needs to go to the hospital you're going to start looking around to find hospitals that aren't overwhelmed. Do you want your loved one sitting in a hallway for 2 days waiting for a hospital bed or do you throw them in the car and take them somewhere that isn't full?

If just 50 people from California do this and our hospitals are full.
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My physical therapist told me just the other day, his uncle in California fell and broke his leg. They had to call the ambulance.

Once the ambulance got there they kind of patched him up and said, "Okay, that's it. We're going to have to leave you here. There is no room for these kind of injuries... "
 
Phatguysrule said:
My physical therapist told me just the other day, his uncle in California fell and broke his leg. They had to call the ambulance.

Once the ambulance got there they kind of patched him up and said, "Okay, that's it. We're going to have to leave you here. There is no room for these kind of injuries... "
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That’s...not ideal
 
My position is the horrible numbers are being driven by high number of illegals x high housing costs, meaning many people living together.

Also, illegals working under unsafe conditions and spreading it to their communities.

That and the harsher restrictions (esp outdoor activities) are causing more family/social gatherings in homes as people are couped up.

Plus a lot of people partying as well.

The hot spots are poor latino communities though.
 
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My buddy sent us the instructions from his hospital for allocating care (withhold or withdraw care) based on prognosis late last week, which they are currently implementing. Creepy shit.

3 person panel aka a Decision Making Team reviews patient prognosis and assigns a score to allocate care and resources.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
State of California has been very bad too.

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What else were they going to do? Leave indoor dining open? Do you honestly think most people were having indoor parties the size of a restaurant on Friday night?

When the president makes light of it, calls it a hoax, and throws parties, a portion of the population is going to believe him.

And, California (65 deaths per 100k) still hasn't done as bad per capita as Florida (100 deaths per 100k).

Only 15 states have lower per capita death rates than California. Many of them have also closed indoor dining.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_deathsper100k
 
Trump today said death rates are incorrect.
By tomorrow it will be a loyalty test to say that more than 340,000 Americans have NOT died of COVID-19. Like not wearing masks.
 
Phatguysrule said:
What else were they going to do? Leave indoor dining open? Do you honestly think most people were having indoor parties the size of a restaurant on Friday night?

When the president makes light of it, calls it a hoax, and throws parties, a portion of the population is going to believe him.

And, California (65 deaths per 100k) still hasn't done as bad per capita as Florida (100 deaths per 100k).

Only 15 states have lower per capita death rates than California. Many of them have also closed indoor dining.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_deathsper100k
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They closed outdoor dining. In LA indoor dining hasn't been around since March or so. No science backs these closures.

LA has had restrictions and mask mandates longer than anyone and the numbers are worse than anywhere.

And we've been over this. Trump never called Covid a hoax. Look it up. Better yet, here:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/poli...-trump-coronavirus-hoax-fact-check/index.html

I don't think Trumps done a good job, not many have. Newsom hasn't done much better setting an example (French Laundry anyone?).
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
They closed outdoor dining. In LA indoor dining hasn't been around since March or so. No science backs these closures.

LA has had restrictions and mask mandates longer than anyone and the numbers are worse than anywhere.

And we've been over this. Trump never called Covid a hoax. Look it up. Better yet, here:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/poli...-trump-coronavirus-hoax-fact-check/index.html

Newsom hasn't done much better setting an example (French Laundry anyone?).
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True.
So when your followers believe it's a hoax and you publicly refuse to follow (and even attack) guidelines set by our experts you're the same as calling it a hoax.

Regardless of if you specifically said the words.

I'm not defending Newsom, but his actions on covid-19 have been far better Trump's and most Republican governors.

That's not even up for debate.
 
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