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If Bill Gates wanted to lower the population, why wouldn't he just secretly put a subliminal message in his phones and computers that says "quit having kids/pollute less", etc?
 
I'm not quite sure everyone thinks the onus should be on @Serbian to prove what he thinks, and not what they think.

Please, I'm not interested in websites who have a financial conflict of interest - including the cdc.
 
julius said:
If Bill Gates wanted to lower the population, why wouldn't he just secretly put a subliminal message in his phones and computers that says "quit having kids/pollute less", etc?
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don't forget he's into drinking water too...
 
Hoopguru said:
don't forget he's into drinking water too...
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Yeah! He's killing people left and right! His father was named Eugene too!


Wait, I think I have his fathers name wrong.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Heard a rumor that the Blazers found out about the vaccinations at Grand Ronde through their official forum.....
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I heard that the Blazers stole the vaccines from the Grand Ronde Indians grandmothers.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
I'm not quite sure everyone thinks the onus should be on @Serbian to prove what he thinks, and not what they think.

Please, I'm not interested in websites who have a financial conflict of interest - including the cdc.
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Um, because he brought it up as if it was some kind of fact, and that's how discussions work?
 
Wizard Mentor said:
I'm not quite sure everyone thinks the onus should be on @Serbian to prove what he thinks, and not what they think.

Please, I'm not interested in websites who have a financial conflict of interest - including the cdc.
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That's kind of how things work. If you make a claim, especially an outlandish one, it should have the backing of proof.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
And responders have also acted like he was wrong. Based on what? Feelings? I guess that's how they are discussed on s2 :)
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Wait, are you actually taking this stance?

That he's correct?

People responded to what he said by pointing out what he said was factually inaccurate, or taking things grossly out of context (to fit a narrative).
 
RR7 said:
That's kind of how things work. If you make a claim, especially an outlandish one, it should have the backing of proof.
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Almost. They way it works is that you can say "I don't believe you". However, you can't (intelligently) say that he is wrong, without providing your own proof.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Almost. They way it works is that you can say "I don't believe you". However, you can't (intelligently) say that he is wrong, without providing your own proof.
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Facts around vaccines working? Or facts around the millions of people who have safely gotten it and are fine? Which facts would put this to bed?
 
julius said:
Wait, are you actually taking this stance?

That he's correct?

People responded to what he said by pointing out what he said was factually inaccurate, or taking things grossly out of context (to fit a narrative).
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Right about what, he's said a lot.

Is it a "vaccine"? Not really by any definition of vaccine I've ever heard - I'm 56.

If you really want my opinion, I'm happy to give it to you.

Basically, one has to weigh the long term effects of Covid with the long term effects of the vaccine. This is a personal decision.

For me, I don't eat pufa's, sugar, or grains. I take vitamin D. This doesn't make me "covid-proof", but I believe this will severely decrease its effects if I get it. So, I'm not taking the vaccine. However, if I was on the Standard American Diet, I would take it.
 
HailBlazers said:
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Immunization Basics, Definition of Terms.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
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If the thrust of your post is that you're not immune to the disease, as in completely invulnerable, that isn't what "immune" means in this context. Immunity refers to being resistant to the disease and resistance comes in different degrees.

You can see here that the CDC classifies mRNA vaccines as...vaccines.
 
calvin natt said:
Facts around vaccines working? Or facts around the millions of people who have safely gotten it and are fine? Which facts would put this to bed?
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We won't know the long term effects of the "vaccine" or covid for many years. So, for me, it won't be put to bed for a long time. If you're convinced by the medical established, you can put it to bed right away.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
We won't know the long term effects of the "vaccine" or covid for many years. So, for me, it won't be put to bed for a long time. If you're convinced by the medical established, you can put it to bed right away.
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Sure, maybe in the long term, the vaccine makes your balls fall off and in the long term, covid doubles the size of your penis.

But in the short term, covid has killed a half-million in the US, and the vaccine has killed... how many? I think we've got enough information already to make a rational decision.

barfo
 
Wizard Mentor said:
I don't know what this means, but I like it.
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It means that saying I eat healthy, and the effects of covid won't hurt me most likely is selfish and irresponsible when you think of living in a society with many millions of other people, many of which do not adhere to your diet or aren't in your age range, or risk category.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Right about what, he's said a lot.

Is it a "vaccine"? Not really by any definition of vaccine I've ever heard - I'm 56.

If you really want my opinion, I'm happy to give it to you.

Basically, one has to weigh the long term effects of Covid with the long term effects of the vaccine. This is a personal decision.

For me, I don't eat pufa's, sugar, or grains. I take vitamin D. This doesn't make me "covid-proof", but I believe this will severely decrease its effects if I get it. So, I'm not taking the vaccine. However, if I was on the Standard American Diet, I would take it.
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Shit we’ve been trying to figure out how to deal with Covid - worldwide - and it’s just vitamin D and don’t eat sugar or grains? Thanks for that information.
 
calvin natt said:
Shit we’ve been trying to figure out how to deal with Covid - worldwide - and it’s just vitamin D and don’t eat sugar or grains? Thanks for that information.
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like how does one even process this shit that has gone on for over a year and come to that conclusion? people still don't give a damn until it hits close to them.
 
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