OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (6 Viewers)

[calvin natt]

Maybe reword that. Those aren’t awesome odds lol. You left a few billion people out.

I’m simply stating that my original “hundreds of millions fine” was fact while you said “simply not true”. I have no idea how many of the 4.46 billion have had issues. A very small %. How many have died from the vaccine? Per the CDC which you probably don’t believe, 1509 deaths out of 164,000,000 US vaccines. 1509/164000000. Carry on.

 

[calvin natt]

PS they are awesome odds.

 

[jonnyboy]

Why?

But (here in the US) Florida has 100k new cases per day all by itself... So...

No, sorry. That number isn’t even close to reality.

 

[jonnyboy]

Why do they only report cases instead of deaths now?

 

[barfo]

There have been many reported side effects. See VAERS, there are already more adverse incidents with this vaccine in 6 months than there have been for all other vaccines combined for the last 20 years. Those aren’t awesome numbers and they don’t suggest all skepticism should be cast aside. You may feel the benefits outweigh the risks and that’s fine. But it isn’t your, or anyone else’s place to risk assess for other people.

VAERS is the equivalent of product reviews on Amazon. Very low signal/noise ratio.

It is, actually, the job of the CDC and other health agencies to assess the risks for other people. You can ignore their assessment - but it's there, and it's surely better justified than your own.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Why do they only report cases instead of deaths now?

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Deaths are still being reported. Who is 'they' in your question?

barfo

 

[jonnyboy]

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Deaths are still being reported. Who is 'they' in your question?

barfo

The media. You know, the people who report things.

 

[jonnyboy]

VAERS is the equivalent of product reviews on Amazon. Very low signal/noise ratio.

It is, actually, the job of the CDC and other health agencies to assess the risks for other people. You can ignore their assessment - but it's there, and it's surely better justified than your own.

barfo

I actually find product reviews to be a very effective tool in determining the quality of a product. Why are the experiences of others not a good metric in your eyes?

 

[barfo]

The media. You know, the people who report things.

Not sure why you think the media is no longer reporting covid deaths.

barfo

 

[jonnyboy]

Not sure why you think the media is no longer reporting covid deaths.

barfo

They are clearly signaling toward cases as a way to be more sensational, larger numbers to play with. You rarely hear deaths reported audibly, or even in a headline. Small numbers, not exciting enough. At the end of the day most of the media are still sensationalist sellouts.

 

[jonnyboy]

But best believe if some guy dies of covid after posting some Qanon shit, national news baby! That’ll show em!

 

[barfo]

They are clearly signaling toward cases as a way to be more sensational, larger numbers to play with. You rarely hear deaths reported audibly, or even in a headline. Small numbers, not exciting enough. At the end of the day most of the media are still sensationalist sellouts.

Or could it be because deaths follow cases, and cases are rising sharply right now? Deaths will come along soon enough.
If they were wanting to be sensationalist, any one death is far more sensational than any number of cases.

barfo

 

[barfo]

But best believe if some guy dies of covid after posting some Qanon shit, national news baby! That’ll show em!

Apparently it won't. Horses and water.

barfo

 

[jonnyboy]

Or could it be because deaths follow cases, and cases are rising sharply right now? Deaths will come along soon enough.
If they were wanting to be sensationalist, any one death is far more sensational than any number of cases.

barfo

Deaths are way down and not likely to return to levels anywhere near the height of the pandemic. The (lack of) logic you just put into play is exactly what’s being used to sensationalize the case numbers. “Deaths on the way guys, just wait for it”

 

[SlyPokerDog]

See VAERS, there are already more adverse incidents with this vaccine in 6 months than there have been for all other vaccines combined for the last 20 years.

Link?

 

[barfo]

Deaths are way down and not likely to return to levels anywhere near the height of the pandemic. The (lack of) logic you just put into play is exactly what’s being used to sensationalize the case numbers. “Deaths on the way guys, just wait for it”

That's kind of a silly post. Of course deaths follow infection, not the reverse.

Maybe no one will ever die of covid again. Hospitals have gotten better at treating it. But the rapidly increasing number of cases means more people are at risk of dying.

barfo

 

[jonnyboy]

Link?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

 

[SlyPokerDog]

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

Link that supports the numbers you're claiming.

 

[HailBlazers]

VAERS is the equivalent of product reviews on Amazon. Very low signal/noise ratio.

Without googling - do you know why it was created?

 

[Phatguysrule]

No, sorry. That number isn’t even close to reality.

Yeah you're right. I was sure I had read that like 3 days in a row last week. Maybe it was 10k I was thinking of.

 

[ABM]

I actually find product reviews to be a very effective tool in determining the quality of a product. Why are the experiences of others not a good metric in your eyes?

Mean averages generally work well for me in that area.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pe...onavirus-vaccinations-at-riverside-rally/amp/

Nurses protest mandatory coronavirus vaccinations at Riverside rally

 

[calvin natt]

Imagine defending anti vaxxers lol

 

[calvin natt]

I can’t believe god would let this happen.

 

[barfo]

Without googling - do you know why it was created?

Well, I know why it was created without googling it today - but only because I googled it a week or two ago when it came up earlier in this thread.

I know for sure it wasn't created for random internet users to make invalid comparisons between vaccines.

barfo

 

[HailBlazers]

I know why only because I googled it a week or two ago.

Exactly.

 

[barfo]

Exactly.

And what point do you think you made there, Exactly?

barfo

 

[Strenuus]

Indoor mask mandates back for Multnomah.


Literally all you had to do was have common sense. Fucking A.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Gov. Greg Abbott makes urgent appeal for medical staff come to Texas to fight surging COVID and tells overwhelmed hospitals to postpone all elective surgery - but refuses to lift his ban on mask mandates as virus rips through state

• Texas is ranking second only to Florida for new daily COVID-19 infections
• The governors of both are resisting reintroducing masks and social distancing
• Texas's governor, Greg Abbott, on Monday issued a cry for help for medical staff
• The state capital, Austin, only has six available ICU beds, 499 available hospital beds and 313 available ventilators for 2.4 million people
• Statewide the rolling two-week daily average of new COVID-19 cases in his state has increased by 165 per cent
• Only 45 per cent of the state's residents have been fully vaccinated against the virus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ight-COVID-refuses-lift-mask-mandate-ban.html