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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
You really think most people saying, "I'm doing my own research," are really doing exactly that?
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I think for most people, “doing my own research”, means searching for articles and YouTube videos by “experts” who support their own views on the pandemic, vaccines and medications. While we all like to have our beliefs “verified”, the approach of only accepting as valid those sources that agree with us is the exact opposite of science.
 
royo said:
I'll just stop here for a second. You are teaching me about "long term effects" after not even a year after vac been introduced to billions of people.
Try to smoke pack of cigarettes for 10months, go back and tell me you have no long term effects on your body.

And Lenny, we both heard, that vaccined people spread this stuff same way as nonvacinated. And you probably heard, that I have constitutional right not to be part of medical experiment if I don't want it. It is not me, who afraid of the virus, it's you, so how the fuck I should stay home, not you?
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You have the Constitutional right to keep the hell away from me until you get the shot. I'm not letting you infect me.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Cigarettes are not vaccines. This isn't even an apples and oranges comparison. More like apples and elephants.

And no, vaccinated people do not spread the virus the same as unvaccinated people. The vaccinated are at least 25x LESS likely to spread the virus.
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Correct, only those infected with the Trump cult syndrome think otherwise.
 
royo said:
You are protected, so I am dangerous for you, bc I am not protected. Got it.
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You are dangerous to all of us when you go out in public. I don't give a shit if you are unvaccinated if you live the life of a hermit or in a colony of those who wish to die.
 
royo said:
All in all, for me, you can do whatever you want. You can go vax yourself or not, you can stay home or go out. Really, do what you want.
I mean, it's a free country.
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Yes, that means we get to breathe air that is free of the taint of deadly disease.
 
Lanny said:
You are dangerous to all of us when you go out in public. I don't give a shit if you are unvaccinated if you live the life of a hermit or in a colony of those who wish to die.
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Don't get to emotionall, Lanny. It's not that good for your health.
 
I think a lot of contention, not just around here, is between some people that have had a covid case and believe that infection provides equal or better immune responses than they would have if they got the vaccine, and other people saying things like "if you don't get the vaccine you're going to kill me". I know, that is a generalization. There is just a lot of area in between those two positions and it has become pretty divisive. I don't think I've had covid, but I'm not 100% sure. I would have gotten the vaccine either way, but that's just me. Idk, here's a good article I read about it and explains the differences in how some geographic areas are addressing it and specifically the pros/cons of the USA's approach.

https://arstechnica.com/science/202...tion-why-everyone-should-get-a-covid-19-shot/
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
You really think most people saying, "I'm doing my own research," are really doing exactly that?
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Absolutely and quite obviously. They are risking their careers, their homes and even their friendships by refusing to comply.

The real question is why isn't everyone doing their own research before allowing medical experimentation on themselves and their loved ones?
 
e_blazer said:
I think for most people, “doing my own research”, means searching for articles and YouTube videos by “experts” who support their own views on the pandemic, vaccines and medications. While we all like to have our beliefs “verified”, the approach of only accepting as valid those sources that agree with us is the exact opposite of science.
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both sides of the political spectrum engage in this behavior.
 
e_blazer said:
I think for most people, “doing my own research”, means searching for articles and YouTube videos by “experts” who support their own views on the pandemic, vaccines and medications. While we all like to have our beliefs “verified”, the approach of only accepting as valid those sources that agree with us is the exact opposite of science.
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Exactly.

As with any science, or anything in life, nothing is certain. It's no different than any medicine. There are side effects that can pop-up in any treatment (I mean, watching TV, when ads come on for various prescription drugs, some of the side effects are worse than the illness itself). I've seen it over and over throughout the pandemic (and throughout the Trump presidency), something can be 95% true or effective, and one person goes down a rabbit hole to find the 5% that is true or effective, and hoards of folks follow that 5% conflicting data and dig into it to discredit the 95%. Science, folks, is not 100%. You see the reverse with the perception that Intermectin is a great treatment for COVID.

Just because someone has done some research, that does not make them capable of reasonable understanding and interpretation. But again, everyone is entitled to their wrong opinion.
 
MARIS61 said:
Absolutely and quite obviously. They are risking their careers, their homes and even their friendships by refusing to comply.

The real question is why isn't everyone doing their own research before allowing medical experimentation on themselves and their loved ones?
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Yes, clearly. Folks' insistence on hoarding Intermectin supports this.
 
Lanny said:
I always get emotional when people are trying to kill me. That's pretty normal behavior.
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Accusing people of “trying to kill you” because they are hesitant about a new treatment is pretty over the top. It’s honestly these types of exaggerated, hyperbolic claims that are being used to justify treating law abiding, tax paying citizens like a second class simply because of a choice to not take a covid shot. It’s crazy that you have to accuse someone of attempted murder in order to make your demands seem legitimate.
 
MARIS61 said:
Absolutely and quite obviously. They are risking their careers, their homes and even their friendships by refusing to comply.

The real question is why isn't everyone doing their own research before allowing medical experimentation on themselves and their loved ones?
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Then why aren't they posting the actual evidence? Everything legitimate I've seen posted by somebody claiming vaccines are dangerous or ineffective has been misinterpreted by the poster, and has been called out as such by anybody with any relevant background.

So if they are doing that research they don't understand it.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Then why aren't they posting the actual evidence? Everything legitimate I've seen posted by somebody claiming vaccines are dangerous or ineffective has been misinterpreted by the poster, and has been called out as such by anybody with any relevant background.

So if they are doing that research they don't understand it.
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I know it can be entertaining, but why engage with someone who isn't actually being serious
 
jonnyboy said:
Accusing people of “trying to kill you” because they are hesitant about a new treatment is pretty over the top. It’s honestly these types of exaggerated, hyperbolic claims that are being used to justify treating law abiding, tax paying citizens like a second class simply because of a choice to not take a covid shot. It’s crazy that you have to accuse someone of attempted murder in order to make your demands seem legitimate.
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Even crazier is the fact that the BidenHarris government is saying the same thing Lanny is saying, and half the populace eats it up like lemmings.
 
MARIS61 said:
Even crazier is the fact that the BidenHarris government is saying the same thing Lanny is saying, and half the populace eats it up like lemmings.
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pot-kettle.jpg
 
jonnyboy said:
Accusing people of “trying to kill you” because they are hesitant about a new treatment is pretty over the top. It’s honestly these types of exaggerated, hyperbolic claims that are being used to justify treating law abiding, tax paying citizens like a second class simply because of a choice to not take a covid shot. It’s crazy that you have to accuse someone of attempted murder in order to make your demands seem legitimate.
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Be grateful you don’t have “underlying” conditions. You’d almost certainly think differently if you did. And hope that you don’t develop a life threatening medical issue, because if you do, you are likely shit out of luck. How many more people have to die due to Covid related ignorance and recalcitrance??? I personally don’t need to do my “research” to know a vaccine will protect me. It’s simple common sense. Nothing more, nothing less. Politics has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Then why aren't they posting the actual evidence? Everything legitimate I've seen posted by somebody claiming vaccines are dangerous or ineffective has been misinterpreted by the poster, and has been called out as such by anybody with any relevant background.

So if they are doing that research they don't understand it.
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Or you don't understand it, and you are misinterpreting it, and your idea of experts and relevant background is lacking in credibility...
 
As I stepped away from the computer to take a phone call, I was literally about to ask if anyone had ever seen Maris and johnnyboy in the same room at the same time, but here they are. :NOTMARIS:
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Be grateful you don’t have “underlying” conditions. You’d almost certainly think differently if you did. And hope that you don’t develop a life threatening medical issue, because if you do, you are likely shit out of luck. How many more people have to die due to Covid related ignorance and recalcitrance??? I personally don’t need to do my “research” to know a vaccine will protect me. It’s simple common sense. Nothing more, nothing less. Politics has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Deliberate intellectual laziness is nothing to brag about, nor will it lend credibility to your opinions.
 
MARIS61 said:
Or you don't understand it, and you are misinterpreting it, and your idea of experts and relevant background is lacking in credibility...
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You just like to argue for the sake of arguing. I just passed through your neck of the woods and I didn’t think it was THAT boring. Maybe you should join a book club or something. Anything to get you out of your cave……
 
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