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theprunetang said:
I think I'm pretty similar in real life and online. Probably less likely to call someone out on bullshit in real life though. Mainly because most of my family is very conservative, so I know how to avoid that subject in real life. I mean, who else here has hung out with @MARIS61 and @ABM and both of their wives, and had a great time?
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You are the Dennis Rodman of this forum.
 
Where did this goofy thing that, “it’s not a vaccine, it’s an immunity booster”, come from? I see that parroted time and again in comments on vaccine articles. I feel like going, “Psst, hey that’s what vaccines do”.
 
royo said:
For me, it is a warning sign, that it is still to early to be sure about vaccines alltogether.
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Are you sure about covid? Do you see any warning signs there?

We have slightly different conclusion - not from the tweet or "article", but - from the fact, that some countries (really, not that stupid ones) have their concerns.
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Are there any countries that have concerns about covid? How many and which ones?


Do you ever make decisions based on incomplete data on other topics?

barfo
 
e_blazer said:
Where did this goofy thing that, “it’s not a vaccine, it’s an immunity booster”, come from? I see that parroted time and again in comments on vaccine articles. I feel like going, “Psst, hey that’s what vaccines do”.
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"Psst, vaccines used to confer immunity."

Why did CDC change its definition for ‘vaccine’?

Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.” The term “vaccine” also got a makeover.

The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
 
HailBlazers said:
"Psst, vaccines used to confer immunity."

Why did CDC change its definition for ‘vaccine’?

Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.” The term “vaccine” also got a makeover.

The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
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Well, that changes everything! Now I'm totally not getting any more vaccines.

I want products, not preparations! I want my vaccine to work on only one specific disease, not plural diseases. And I certainly want immunity and not protection, if I wanted protection I'd buy a damn condom!

Thanks for opening my eyes to this important rewording!

barfo
 
HailBlazers said:
Immunity means you won't get it.
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FTFY. The 'and spread it to others' isn't part of the definition of immunity.

And, of course the wording change doesn't change anything about the vaccines.

barfo
 
HailBlazers said:
"Psst, vaccines used to confer immunity."

Why did CDC change its definition for ‘vaccine’?

Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.” The term “vaccine” also got a makeover.

The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
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That’s what I assumed was behind it; this idea that immunity means perfect, lifetime ability to not be infected by a disease. But that notion is just a misunderstanding of what “immunity” means from a biological standpoint. The immune system is a collection of biological cells and functions that our bodies have developed to resist bacteria, viruses and other agents that cause disease. Vaccines basically provide instructions to the immune system so that it can prepare for better defense when it encounters an invader that it doesn’t have information about. The protection is never perfect because our individual immune systems vary in their effectiveness and health, and because some viruses and bacteria are better than others at mutating and avoiding the defensive information that the vaccines provide. Immunity provided by vaccines against most, if not all, diseases fade over time. Even vaccines against polio and measles aren’t perfect in their efficacy. If the CDC changed its definition of vaccines, it was to make it more accurate.
 
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
 
Liver failure

Abdominal pain, diarrhea, constipation, dyspepsia, enlarged abdomen

Anaphylaxis, hypersensitivity reactions

Anemia, postoperative hemorrhage

Thrombocytopenia, leucopenia, neutropenia

Serious skin reactions such as acute generalized exanthematous pustulosis, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and toxic epidermal necrolysis

Pemphigoid reaction, pustular rash, Lyell syndrome

Dyspnea, abnormal breath sounds, pulmonary edema, hypoxia, pleural effusion, stridor, wheezing, coughing

Peripheral edema, hypertension, hypotension, tachycardia, chest pain

Hypokalemia, hyperglycemia

Headache, dizziness

Dystonia

Muscle spasms, trismus

Insomnia, anxiety

Periorbital edema

Pyrexia, fatigue

Malaise
 
THE HCP said:
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
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sorry for those kids and your loss bro...sucks when stubborness leaves a death in it's wake
 
THE HCP said:
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
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Sorry, HCP. It's tough to lose a loved one to any disease, but losing one to Covid when it's so avoidable, is just awful.
 
calvin natt said:
Good point until they make an Immunity seatbelt there’s no way I’m wearing simply a Protection seatbelt. That’s bullshit
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immunity doesn't mean you can't transfer an airborne virus...you can touch something and carry the virus to someone else's life without knowing it...covid is not something we own as individuals...it's everywhere, vaccinated or not...that's the difference between airborne pandemics and other virus's ....you can transfer it by just not washing your hands and touching shit....people are so uninformed about the fact that we're all living with this shit floating around the air and landing in random places...it's not going to change with a shot...your chances of survival will change with a shot..and the world hasn't faced something this severe in over a hundred years...it's not going away unless we all join forces to stop it from incubating and using us as hosts...which is the frustrating part of people refusing to join the fight and thinking they'll stave it off on their own
 
THE HCP said:
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
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Sorry to hear that. I think I’ve posted this before but my friend has been on a ventilator for the past 2 weeks. Another anti-vaxxer. It’s so sad.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Liver failure

Abdominal pain, diarrhea, constipation, dyspepsia, enlarged abdomen

Anaphylaxis, hypersensitivity reactions

Anemia, postoperative hemorrhage

Thrombocytopenia, leucopenia, neutropenia

Serious skin reactions such as acute generalized exanthematous pustulosis, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and toxic epidermal necrolysis

Pemphigoid reaction, pustular rash, Lyell syndrome

Dyspnea, abnormal breath sounds, pulmonary edema, hypoxia, pleural effusion, stridor, wheezing, coughing

Peripheral edema, hypertension, hypotension, tachycardia, chest pain

Hypokalemia, hyperglycemia

Headache, dizziness

Dystonia

Muscle spasms, trismus

Insomnia, anxiety

Periorbital edema

Pyrexia, fatigue

Malaise
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These are the known side effects of Tylenol.

Ty-le-nol.

There are no perfect medicines. There are no medicines that don't have some side effects in some people.

Look up the side effects of any prescription or over-the-counter medicine you take.

Look up the side effects of any vaccine you've been given.

This demand that the different covid vaccines be free from any and all side effects, and now that it also gives 100% protection is honestly ridiculous.

I'm not saying that you ignore the reported side effects of the covid vaccines but there can be a thousand different reasons for them.

Things like genetic markers, race, where a vaccine was manufactured, reactions to other medications are just a few of the things that can contribute to or cause side effects.
 
THE HCP said:
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
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Condolences to your family.
 
tlongII said:
Sorry to hear that. I think I’ve posted this before but my friend has been on a ventilator for the past 2 weeks. Another anti-vaxxer. It’s so sad.
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2 weeks is such a long time to be on a ventilator. That has to be very hard on his family.
 
THE HCP said:
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
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Sorry to hear, HCP. My condolences to your family.
 
Sorry, HCP. And so easily prevented.

A related topic. WHO announced first ever malaria vaccine. Malaria remains one of the great killers and it's a parasitic illness. Parasites are far more complex than viruses or bacteria and extremely difficult to find vaccines against parasites. This one is only 50% effective. Not great but better than zero. I doubt you will see antivax protests in Southeast Asia or sub Saharan Africa. Those protests are for the privileged.
 
THE HCP said:
I have not brought much to this thread, because I haven’t done as much studying or research as most on here……but this will be my last time I click on this thread, and I’m sure most don’t care.
My cousin just died from COVID this morning….. unvaccinated shit head. Leaves 2 kids in elementary school and a stay at home wife behind…..
This now brings my total to 4 family members and close friends who have passed.

GET VACCINATED AND WEAR A FUCKING MASK! QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIVES!!!!
If you are still fighting this, maybe losing people in your life will open your eyes…..if you are STILL fighting this though, I doubt it.
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Very sorry for the loss of your cousin. Sad
 
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