OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (2 Viewers)

[Phatguysrule]

Studies have shown natural immunity can last over a year. I prefer front line workers, military members, and airline pilots etc not get fired over one sided science.

Having a consensus of peer reviewed studies is not an bad thing. Even if you want to call it "one sided"...

Everything I'm finding pretty much agrees that the vaccine is better.

 

[HailBlazers]

Same. Fortunately, the science is pretty clear--vaccines are much safer than "get the disease and take your chances."

The science is clear, the danger varies greatly based on your age and health (comorbidities).

 

[Minstrel]

The science is clear, the danger varies greatly based on your age and health (comorbidities).

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Yes, and who has argued that? What's the survival rate on vaccines?

And before you say "We don't know the long-term effects of vaccines," guess what? We have a far better knowledge of the long-term effects of vaccines than we do Covid. "Survival rate" isn't the only measure of the damage of Covid-19--people of all ages, including infants, have suffered brain damage, people of all ages have incurred permanent damage to their lungs, etc. There hasn't been that kind of widespread damage from the vaccine--just widespread conspiracy nonsense on Facebook.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Lanny]

Studies have shown natural immunity can last over a year. I prefer front line workers, military members, and airline pilots etc not get fired over one sided science.

I seen an expert say that natural immunity lasts significantly less than six months.

 

[crandc]

I prefer frontline workers not spread contagious diseases.
I prefer science to random dude on Facebook.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I prefer to take news and reports from all sides and come to an informed conclusion. I prefer seeking knowledge to random woman on S2…

 

[crandc]

There aren't two sides to Covid vaccine. Earth is round, planets travel around sun, universe is billions of years old, COVID vaccine is safe and effective. Oh, and Biden won 2020 presidential election.

 

[jonnyboy]

There aren't two sides to Covid vaccine. Earth is round, planets travel around sun, universe is billions of years old, COVID vaccine is safe and effective. Oh, and Biden won 2020 presidential election.

Packaging your argument with other things that are actually proven doesn’t make it right. There’s no such thing as being correct by association.

 

[Chris Craig]

Packaging your argument with other things that are actually proven doesn’t make it right. There’s no such thing as being correct by association.

Statistically the Covid vaccine is safe. It's been proven. Get out from under that rock.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Packaging your argument with other things that are actually proven doesn’t make it right. There’s no such thing as being correct by association.

It's proven.

 

[Lanny]

I prefer frontline workers not spread contagious diseases.
I prefer science to random dude on Facebook.

Well duh, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that.

 

[Lanny]

I prefer to take news and reports from all sides and come to an informed conclusion. I prefer seeking knowledge to random woman on S2…

I prefer to take news from all well informed sides to help me reach my conclusions. This is what the big corporations do.

 

[Lanny]

Packaging your argument with other things that are actually proven doesn’t make it right. There’s no such thing as being correct by association.

That obviously was not her point.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I prefer to take news from all well informed sides to help me reach my conclusions. This is what the big corporations do.

Well said. Emphasis on

well informed

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[ehizzy3]

whos in big pharma’s pocket again?

 

[Phatguysrule]

But lower-than-expected immunization rates as well as fatigue with precautionary measures like masks allowed the highly contagious Delta variant to spread, largely among the unvaccinated, epidemiologists say.

Yep... If we'd all get vaccinated we'd be fine.

This is why spreading propaganda which might discourage others from getting vaccinated is irresponsible.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yep... If we'd all get vaccinated we'd be fine.

This is why spreading propaganda which might discourage others from getting vaccinated is irresponsible.

People should make their own informed decisions.

 

[RR7]

People should make their own informed decisions.

it's that informed part...

 

[Phatguysrule]

People should make their own informed decisions.

Spreading uninformed and outright false propaganda hinders people's ability to make informed decisions.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Spreading uninformed and outright false propaganda hinders people's ability to make informed decisions.

I asked for specific examples in the past and no one produced any.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

whos in big pharma’s pocket again?

They all are.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I asked for specific examples in the past and no one produced any.

Going to London next week!

Or you live in a red state.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Those are facts

 

[Phatguysrule]

Those are facts

Nope. "the virus cannot be suppressed" is definitely disinformation.

Living in a red state where rates of infection, death, and maxxed out hospitals are far higher is not "normal".

And I've found no legit data to support the claim that vaccinated people are being infected at higher rates anyplace in the world.

I'm sorry, but you're contributing to the problem.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Nope. "the virus cannot be suppressed" is definitely disinformation.

Living in a red state where rates of infection, death, and maxxed out hospital are far higher is not "normal".

And I've found no legit data to support the claim that vaccinated people are being infected at higher rates anyplace in the world.

Im sorry, but you're contributing to the problem.

The virus goes up and down in numbers independent of lockdowns, mask usage and vaccination rates.

Look at Florida, it had one of the lower death rates recently and they are living semi normal. There are not real discernable patterns emerging yet and it's important to take a look at everything

 

[brewmaster]

COVID vaccine is safe and effective

What do you mean "safe and effective"? So no one has ever suffered side affects from vaccine? No one has ever died from Covid vaccine? And there are absolutely no side affects/long term affects EVER from Covid vaccine two years, three years, five years after getting vaccine? The vaccine is effective because no one has ever got Covid after getting vaccine? Hmmmm ......

 

[Phatguysrule]

The virus goes up and down in numbers independent of lockdowns, mask usage and vaccination rates.

Look at Florida, it had one of the lower death rates recently and they are living semi normal. There are not real discernable patterns emerging yet and it's important to take a look at everything

Yes there are. Vaccinated and masked people are safer, become infected at lower rates, and spread the disease at lower rates.

No. It's not important to spread misinformation. It's important that we don't.

People trying to decide on the safest course of action do not need more sources of misinformation or disinformation. Quite the opposite.