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about those interactive graphs...I'll add that those graphs don't show the US as being the worst nation in the world, although most nations are better than the US. Having the same trend-line as Italy is nothing to be proud of....just the opposite actually because we had much more time to prepare.

it sure doesn't show that it's a good idea to start 'opening' things up yet
 
My brother in law in Taiwan sent us 30 masks that we received today...April 9th Taiwan allowed relatives to send a maximum of 30 masks to all their relatives outside of their country...very nice of him to think of us and go to the trouble...30 will last us a long time as little as we go out in public...we were using bandanas and rubber bands before
 
SlyPokerDog said:
A CNN link on MSN?!? That's like a double dose of fake news in one link.

Who is this and what have you done with Mags?!?
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I had this discussion with you on the phone. I only use left leaning outlets or actual data from sites when I share links. Mainly because those that dislike Trump won’t respect a Fox News link. :dunno:
 
magnifier661 said:
I had this discussion with you on the phone. I only use left leaning outlets or actual data from sites when I share links. Mainly because those that dislike Trump won’t respect a Fox News link. :dunno:
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There are constant Fox news editorials and links posted here....maris has that covered
 
riverman said:
There are constant Fox news editorials and links posted here....maris has that covered
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I love Maris! One of few conservative Atheists I know. Rare breed...

edit: I don’t think he’s actually conservative. I would probably say he’s more libertarian
 
“Economic Impact Payment checks are scheduled to go out on time and exactly as planned — there is absolutely no delay whatsoever,” a Treasury Department spokesman said in a statement to NBC News. “In fact, we expect the first checks to be in the mail early next week which is well in advance of when the first checks went out in 2008 and well in advance of initial estimates.”

The spokesman said Treasury and IRS officials “have worked around the clock to get fast and direct economic assistance to hardworking Americans” and said the quick turnaround was a “major achievement.”
 
magnifier661 said:
“Economic Impact Payment checks are scheduled to go out on time and exactly as planned — there is absolutely no delay whatsoever,” a Treasury Department spokesman said in a statement to NBC News. “In fact, we expect the first checks to be in the mail early next week which is well in advance of when the first checks went out in 2008 and well in advance of initial estimates.”

The spokesman said Treasury and IRS officials “have worked around the clock to get fast and direct economic assistance to hardworking Americans” and said the quick turnaround was a “major achievement.”
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My wife and I got ours via direct deposit this morning. And, yes, we just slid under the $150K combined household income threshold. We're putting the money away, figuring that we're going to have to help our kids out at some point in all of this economic chaos.
 
e_blazer said:
My wife and I got ours via direct deposit this morning. And, yes, we just slid under the $150K combined household income threshold. We're putting the money away, figuring that we're going to have to help our kids out at some point in all of this economic chaos.
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Smart move
 
And in the More Bad News category, it looks like there may be mutations to the SARS-CoV-2 virus that would make vaccines futile:

"The discrepant phylogenies for the spike protein and its receptor binding domain proved a previously reported structural rearrangement prior to the emergence of SARS-CoV-2," researchers wrote in the study. "Despite that we found, the spike glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 is particularly more conserved, we identified a mutation that leads to weaker receptor binding capability, which concerns a SARS-CoV-2 sample collected on 27th 26 January 2020 from India. This represents the first report of a significant SARS-CoV-2 mutant, and raises the alarm that the ongoing vaccine development may become futile in future epidemic if more mutations were identified."

Fortunately, they're finding that the mutation rate is slow, so maybe there's a window where a vaccine would help?

https://www.foxnews.com/science/sig...n-discovered-could-make-vaccine-search-futile
 
e_blazer said:
And in the More Bad News category, it looks like there may be mutations to the SARS-CoV-2 virus that would make vaccines futile:

"The discrepant phylogenies for the spike protein and its receptor binding domain proved a previously reported structural rearrangement prior to the emergence of SARS-CoV-2," researchers wrote in the study. "Despite that we found, the spike glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 is particularly more conserved, we identified a mutation that leads to weaker receptor binding capability, which concerns a SARS-CoV-2 sample collected on 27th 26 January 2020 from India. This represents the first report of a significant SARS-CoV-2 mutant, and raises the alarm that the ongoing vaccine development may become futile in future epidemic if more mutations were identified."

Fortunately, they're finding that the mutation rate is slow, so maybe there's a window where a vaccine would help?

https://www.foxnews.com/science/sig...n-discovered-could-make-vaccine-search-futile
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They can work it much like the flu vaccine. Design the theoretical mutation for the next season. I’m just not happy about having to stick more vaccines in my system every year
 
e_blazer said:
And in the More Bad News category, it looks like there may be mutations to the SARS-CoV-2 virus that would make vaccines futile:

"The discrepant phylogenies for the spike protein and its receptor binding domain proved a previously reported structural rearrangement prior to the emergence of SARS-CoV-2," researchers wrote in the study. "Despite that we found, the spike glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 is particularly more conserved, we identified a mutation that leads to weaker receptor binding capability, which concerns a SARS-CoV-2 sample collected on 27th 26 January 2020 from India. This represents the first report of a significant SARS-CoV-2 mutant, and raises the alarm that the ongoing vaccine development may become futile in future epidemic if more mutations were identified."

Fortunately, they're finding that the mutation rate is slow, so maybe there's a window where a vaccine would help?

https://www.foxnews.com/science/sig...n-discovered-could-make-vaccine-search-futile
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If I'm reading that right, the mutation they found is less harmful than the original.

I'm not sure this is really 'bad news'.

barfo
 
barfo said:
If I'm reading that right, the mutation they found is less harmful than the original.

I'm not sure this is really 'bad news'.

barfo
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Yeah, I was wondering about that. I'm not claiming I understand the science (maybe crandc can chime in here), but I think that it's saying that the area of the virus that they are developing vaccine's to block, is changing. If it's still infectious despite that change (which apparently it is because it's still making people sick in India where the mutation was noted), then the vaccines that are currently under development would be useless. Presumably the concern is that if it can mutate this much, it's going to be pretty hard to develop an effective vaccine at all. But, I know not of which I speak, so that may just be gibberish.
 
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Protesters flood the streets and block traffic outside Michigan's state Capitol to demand Gov. Gretchen Whitmer end her strict stay-at-home orders and chant 'lock her up'
  • Thousands of demonstrators gathered at Michigan's state Capitol building in Lansing on Wednesday
  • They waved American flags and Trump 2020 banners as they descended upon Capitol
  • They demanded Dem. Governor Gretchen Whitmer lift stay-at-home orders saying it violates civil liberties
  • On Thursday Whitmer signed an executive order extending the stay-at-home lockdown through April 30 and imposing new rules banning travel to secondary homes, boat use, and gatherings beyond a single household
  • Michigan has the fourth-biggest outbreak of COVID-19 in the US with over 28,000 cases of the COVID-19 and nearly 2,000 deaths
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Capitol-against-states-stay-home-orders.html
 
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