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THE HCP said:
I know it's baby steps, but our neighborhood Starbucks that's been shut down since March 17th, is re-opening Monday.
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They will be reopening but you won't be able to sit down and stay. You'll just be able to order a coffee inside instead of the drive thru..
 
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Deadliest day yet. While the good ol boys down south are prioritizing getting their mullet trimmed and taken their lady out to Sizzler[/QUOTE]

Terrible generalization.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...ople-cannot-get-coronavirus-twice/ar-BB13tm64

Scientists conclude people cannot get coronavirus twice

A number of reported cases of coronavirus patients relapsing after overcoming the disease were actually due to testing failures, South Korean scientists say.

Researchers at the South Korean centre for disease control and prevention (CDC) now say it is impossible for the COVID-19 virus to reactivate in human bodies.

There have been more than 10,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in South Korea, with 245 deaths - a 2.3% fatality rate, which is lower than the 3.4% average as stated by the World Health Organisation.

A total of 277 patients in the country were believed to have fallen ill for a second time, as had patients in China and Japan.

This prompted concerns that the virus could be mutating so quickly that people were not necessarily immune to catching it again.

However, genetic analyses of the virus have not found any substantial changes which would effectively disguise it from the immune system.

Partially as a result of these reports, the World Health Organisation warned governments against using so-called "immunity passports" to allow people to return to work simply because they have antibodies for the virus.

Immunity passports are a proposed way of allowing countries to begin to lift their coronavirus lockdowns in a targeted manner and resume economic activity.

They would be issued to people who have already overcome a COVID-19 infection and test positive for antibodies to the virus, based on the assumption they are therefore immune.

In an update to its guidance, the WHO warned there was "no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection".

But it was not expected that the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test used to check the blood for antigens - actual particles of the virus itself - could also have issues.

South Korea's CDC has found that the test results for the suspected relapsed patients were false positives, and warned the test it used was not able to distinguish between live traces of the virus and the harmless dead samples which remain after patients have recovered.
 
This would be great news if true because a vaccine could put an end to this virus once and for all.
 
magnifier661 said:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...ople-cannot-get-coronavirus-twice/ar-BB13tm64

Scientists conclude people cannot get coronavirus twice

A number of reported cases of coronavirus patients relapsing after overcoming the disease were actually due to testing failures, South Korean scientists say.

Researchers at the South Korean centre for disease control and prevention (CDC) now say it is impossible for the COVID-19 virus to reactivate in human bodies.

There have been more than 10,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in South Korea, with 245 deaths - a 2.3% fatality rate, which is lower than the 3.4% average as stated by the World Health Organisation.

A total of 277 patients in the country were believed to have fallen ill for a second time, as had patients in China and Japan.

This prompted concerns that the virus could be mutating so quickly that people were not necessarily immune to catching it again.

However, genetic analyses of the virus have not found any substantial changes which would effectively disguise it from the immune system.

Partially as a result of these reports, the World Health Organisation warned governments against using so-called "immunity passports" to allow people to return to work simply because they have antibodies for the virus.

Immunity passports are a proposed way of allowing countries to begin to lift their coronavirus lockdowns in a targeted manner and resume economic activity.

They would be issued to people who have already overcome a COVID-19 infection and test positive for antibodies to the virus, based on the assumption they are therefore immune.

In an update to its guidance, the WHO warned there was "no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection".

But it was not expected that the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test used to check the blood for antigens - actual particles of the virus itself - could also have issues.

South Korea's CDC has found that the test results for the suspected relapsed patients were false positives, and warned the test it used was not able to distinguish between live traces of the virus and the harmless dead samples which remain after patients have recovered.
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That means all I've got to do is survive the initial attack.
 
magnifier661 said:
This would be great news if true because a vaccine could put an end to this virus once and for all.
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We'd better use this battle to motivate us to get ready for the next one. Do not defund the CDC nor the NIH (Dr. Fauci).
 
magnifier661 said:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...ople-cannot-get-coronavirus-twice/ar-BB13tm64

Scientists conclude people cannot get coronavirus twice

A number of reported cases of coronavirus patients relapsing after overcoming the disease were actually due to testing failures, South Korean scientists say.

Researchers at the South Korean centre for disease control and prevention (CDC) now say it is impossible for the COVID-19 virus to reactivate in human bodies.

There have been more than 10,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in South Korea, with 245 deaths - a 2.3% fatality rate, which is lower than the 3.4% average as stated by the World Health Organisation.

A total of 277 patients in the country were believed to have fallen ill for a second time, as had patients in China and Japan.

This prompted concerns that the virus could be mutating so quickly that people were not necessarily immune to catching it again.

However, genetic analyses of the virus have not found any substantial changes which would effectively disguise it from the immune system.

Partially as a result of these reports, the World Health Organisation warned governments against using so-called "immunity passports" to allow people to return to work simply because they have antibodies for the virus.

Immunity passports are a proposed way of allowing countries to begin to lift their coronavirus lockdowns in a targeted manner and resume economic activity.

They would be issued to people who have already overcome a COVID-19 infection and test positive for antibodies to the virus, based on the assumption they are therefore immune.

In an update to its guidance, the WHO warned there was "no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection".

But it was not expected that the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test used to check the blood for antigens - actual particles of the virus itself - could also have issues.

South Korea's CDC has found that the test results for the suspected relapsed patients were false positives, and warned the test it used was not able to distinguish between live traces of the virus and the harmless dead samples which remain after patients have recovered.
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I literally have someone at my work who got it twice.
 
magnifier661 said:
Anyone know why the CDC just adjusted tens of thousands of Covid-19 deaths?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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beat me to it.



see this just solidifies my thoughts that the media controls everything and we respond how they want us to.
Im bit going to point fingers at who had wrong numbers and why or if these mat be wrong numbers.
My point is we all jump sooo hastily at the drop of a hat without having patience and discipline to ride things out to get the final truths.


i still think we have overreacted to this which will have a grave economical backlash for years.

education and reminders( are we this stupid to need it?) to maintain and have clean and healthy hygiene. Social distancing but not social closures.

it was right of Trump to leave it in the hands of the states so they can each respond at a level required by their situation, rather than some sweeping federal mandate.

Some states should take and continue to take extra measures. Some dont.

cat is out of the bag. There is no containing this. The flow has been stemmed. The hospitals and emergency responders are not overwhelmed.

lets get back to life....in a smarter way than before.
 
Orion Bailey said:
beat me to it.



see this just solidifies my thoughts that the media controls everything and we respond how they want us to.
Im bit going to point fingers at who had wrong numbers and why or if these mat be wrong numbers.
My point is we all jump sooo hastily at the drop of a hat without having patience and discipline to ride things out to get the final truths.


i still think we have overreacted to this which will have a grave economical backlash for years.

education and reminders( are we this stupid to need it?) to maintain and have clean and healthy hygiene. Social distancing but not social closures.

it was right of Trump to leave it in the hands of the states so they can each respond at a level required by their situation, rather than some sweeping federal mandate.

Some states should take and continue to take extra measures. Some dont.

cat is out of the bag. There is no containing this. The flow has been stemmed. The hospitals and emergency responders are not overwhelmed.

lets get back to life....in a smarter way than before.
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It seems Germany hasn’t been getting any spikes since opening either. All good signs.
 
From that CDC link

Our counts often track 1–2 weeks behind other data for a number of reasons: Death certificates take time to be completed. There are many steps involved in completing and submitting a death certificate. Waiting for test results can create additional delays. States report at different rates. Currently, 63% of all U.S. deaths are reported within 10 days of the date of death, but there is significant variation among jurisdictions. It takes extra time to code COVID-19 deaths. While 80% of deaths are electronically processed and coded by NCHS within minutes, most deaths from COVID-19 must be coded manually, which takes an average of 7 days. Other reporting systems use different definitions or methods for counting deaths.

Things to know about the data
Provisional counts are not final and are subject to change. Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as additional records are received and processed. Provisional data are not yet complete. Counts will not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for more recent periods.
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I just got an email notice from Providence Hospital to feel free to come to the emergency room if needed as they are not busy and they do take precautions.
My nurse neighbor say's the hospitals are hurting for business and layoffs are happening.
 
Hoopguru said:
I just got an email notice from Providence Hospital to feel free to come to the emergency room if needed as they are not busy and they do take precautions.
My nurse neighbor say's the hospitals are hurting for business and layoffs are happening.
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I’m in the Legacy Health System and have an appointment with my cardiologist tomorrow. I would really, really like to see him in person but am going to have to settle for a video appointment. That sucks. It’s just a little hard to do an EKG over the phone......I’m all for the social distancing and other precautions but it seems rather paradoxical that we can’t get “proper” medical attention during a health crisis......
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I’m in the Legacy Health System and have an appointment with my cardiologist tomorrow. I would really, really like to see him in person but am going to have to settle for a video appointment. That sucks. It’s just a little hard to do an EKG over the phone......I’m all for the social distancing and other precautions but it seems rather paradoxical that we can’t get “proper” medical attention during a health crisis......
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Agree, especially seeing a cardiologist? Sometimes even huge happenings are mis managed.
 
magnifier661 said:
Well, he did say 220k deaths, so he’s wrong too!
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He also said in February that we only had 15 cases and all but one is pretty much fully recovered and the 15th is well on their way to recovery and soon we will have none. Fast forward to May and we now have over 1 million cases and over 67,000 deaths.
 
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