OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (1 Viewer)

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

echo chamber
COVID-DENIER Conspiracy theorist Trump supporter Tony Tenpenny who dismissed coronavirus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by disease

A TRUMP-supporting politician who said coronavirus was a "socialist" hoax has been killed by the disease.


Tony Tenpenny, 57, a former councillor from Nashville, who had said the pandemic was part of a "socialist agenda" and had been over-exaggerated, died over the weekend as a result of complications from COVID-19.

The Republican often expressed his skepticism regarding coronavirus on social media and even had a Facebook post labeled as false information.

In a May 30 post, he claimed the virus had been made up as a means to make sure Trump did not get re-elected in the November election.

He also claimed people who wore masks were being “manipulated to live in irrational fear” and went on to criticize them for allowing themselves to be “controlled by a socialist agenda”.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/152429...-dismissed-coronavirus-socialist-hoax-killed/

"FAKE NEWS! OK, sure, so he may've had 'TEH Covids'... but that's NOT what killed him! You people need to stop being liberal sheep and listening to the lamestream media!"
 
  • Like
Reactions: RR7
,

Why did you post this? Do you think this is all a hoax? Do you think 200,000 people haven't died? How does this apply here?
I've noticed that while most of his posts are anti Trump, he still likes to post what he thinks are interesting facts even if they do favor the Right from time to time.
 
120083020_357117942148012_8194403535520541324_n.jpg
My doctor advised me yesterday to never get a nasal swab because of my proclivity to get serious nose bleeds. I'm on a blood thinner and have had to go to the Emergency Room three times for very bad nose bleeds.
 
COVID-DENIER Conspiracy theorist Trump supporter Tony Tenpenny who dismissed coronavirus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by disease

A TRUMP-supporting politician who said coronavirus was a "socialist" hoax has been killed by the disease.


Tony Tenpenny, 57, a former councillor from Nashville, who had said the pandemic was part of a "socialist agenda" and had been over-exaggerated, died over the weekend as a result of complications from COVID-19.

The Republican often expressed his skepticism regarding coronavirus on social media and even had a Facebook post labeled as false information.

In a May 30 post, he claimed the virus had been made up as a means to make sure Trump did not get re-elected in the November election.

He also claimed people who wore masks were being “manipulated to live in irrational fear” and went on to criticize them for allowing themselves to be “controlled by a socialist agenda”.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/152429...-dismissed-coronavirus-socialist-hoax-killed/
68281474-876d-4aae-b067-52249afbb76a_1920x1080.jpg
 
The Senate couldn't be bothered to consider Corona virus relief bill, let alone voting rights or election security. But they are moving on a bill to ban transgender girls and women from participating in school or college sports. Priorities.
 
COVID-DENIER Conspiracy theorist Trump supporter Tony Tenpenny who dismissed coronavirus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by disease

A TRUMP-supporting politician who said coronavirus was a "socialist" hoax has been killed by the disease.


Tony Tenpenny, 57, a former councillor from Nashville, who had said the pandemic was part of a "socialist agenda" and had been over-exaggerated, died over the weekend as a result of complications from COVID-19.

The Republican often expressed his skepticism regarding coronavirus on social media and even had a Facebook post labeled as false information.

In a May 30 post, he claimed the virus had been made up as a means to make sure Trump did not get re-elected in the November election.

He also claimed people who wore masks were being “manipulated to live in irrational fear” and went on to criticize them for allowing themselves to be “controlled by a socialist agenda”.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/152429...-dismissed-coronavirus-socialist-hoax-killed/
He might've been an idiot, but Tony Tenpenny had quite a name.
 
The Senate couldn't be bothered to consider Corona virus relief bill, let alone voting rights or election security. But they are moving on a bill to ban transgender girls and women from participating in school or college sports. Priorities.
Constituency
 
So here is the problem with trying to "Fast Track' a vaccine.
"unexplained neurological symptoms."

This is a huge setback. It's not the first and it most likely will not be the last.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/25/health/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-trial-questions-fda/index.html

"The trial has been on hold in the United States for more than two weeks, and regulators face the task of trying to figure out if these illnesses were random and disconnected from the vaccine, or if they are related to the vaccine.
AstraZeneca and its partner, the University of Oxford, have given various accounts of the sick volunteers."

I think it was @Chris Craig that was explaining how the process works. They come up with a vaccine and then trial. Then find problems and fix those then Trial again. And so on....


"Mark Slifka, an immunologist, said it's particularly concerning because information posted on Oxford's website said both participants suffered neurological illnesses.
"That's why this is so shocking to me -- these are both neurological diseases, and that by itself is a red flag," said Slifka, a professor at the Oregon Health & Science University."
 
So here is the problem with trying to "Fast Track' a vaccine.
"unexplained neurological symptoms."

This is a huge setback. It's not the first and it most likely will not be the last.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/25/health/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-trial-questions-fda/index.html

"The trial has been on hold in the United States for more than two weeks, and regulators face the task of trying to figure out if these illnesses were random and disconnected from the vaccine, or if they are related to the vaccine.
AstraZeneca and its partner, the University of Oxford, have given various accounts of the sick volunteers."

I think it was @Chris Craig that was explaining how the process works. They come up with a vaccine and then trial. Then find problems and fix those then Trial again. And so on....


"Mark Slifka, an immunologist, said it's particularly concerning because information posted on Oxford's website said both participants suffered neurological illnesses.
"That's why this is so shocking to me -- these are both neurological diseases, and that by itself is a red flag," said Slifka, a professor at the Oregon Health & Science University."

It’s one vaccine. There are dozens of other ones. It’s unfortunate that the one that ran into these issues is one of the top ones that were expected to get to market first. Hopefully, the others that are furthest along won’t hit similar snags.
 
COVID-DENIER Conspiracy theorist Trump supporter Tony Tenpenny who dismissed coronavirus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by disease

A TRUMP-supporting politician who said coronavirus was a "socialist" hoax has been killed by the disease.


Tony Tenpenny, 57, a former councillor from Nashville, who had said the pandemic was part of a "socialist agenda" and had been over-exaggerated, died over the weekend as a result of complications from COVID-19.

The Republican often expressed his skepticism regarding coronavirus on social media and even had a Facebook post labeled as false information.

In a May 30 post, he claimed the virus had been made up as a means to make sure Trump did not get re-elected in the November election.

He also claimed people who wore masks were being “manipulated to live in irrational fear” and went on to criticize them for allowing themselves to be “controlled by a socialist agenda”.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/152429...-dismissed-coronavirus-socialist-hoax-killed/

Irony
 
So here is the problem with trying to "Fast Track' a vaccine.
"unexplained neurological symptoms."

This is a huge setback. It's not the first and it most likely will not be the last.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/25/health/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-trial-questions-fda/index.html

"The trial has been on hold in the United States for more than two weeks, and regulators face the task of trying to figure out if these illnesses were random and disconnected from the vaccine, or if they are related to the vaccine.
AstraZeneca and its partner, the University of Oxford, have given various accounts of the sick volunteers."

I think it was @Chris Craig that was explaining how the process works. They come up with a vaccine and then trial. Then find problems and fix those then Trial again. And so on....


"Mark Slifka, an immunologist, said it's particularly concerning because information posted on Oxford's website said both participants suffered neurological illnesses.
"That's why this is so shocking to me -- these are both neurological diseases, and that by itself is a red flag," said Slifka, a professor at the Oregon Health & Science University."

This is exactly what I was talking about. There is no way to quickly make a problem free vaccine on the first go around. When you you attempt to expedite a result you often will have worse adverse effects as we see here.

Process is about refining the vaccine. You start with the first iteration. You test for adverse reactions. You work to remove/stabilize those negative effects. You have a 2nd iteration. You test it again. You keep an eye out for the side effects from the first iteration and hope not to see them. You look for further adverse effects, you weed them out. Create further iterations. Wash, rinse, repeat until you have a workable vaccine that is safe.
 
It’s one vaccine. There are dozens of other ones. It’s unfortunate that the one that ran into these issues is one of the top ones that were expected to get to market first. Hopefully, the others that are furthest along won’t hit similar snags.
That is the "Furthest Along" and it is the most highly funded multinational vaccine. The others that might be further are not being created in this country creating other obstacles to getting the FDA approval. Are you going to jump right out there and try Russia's vaccine? The best hope for a vaccine to get widespread approval IMO will be to go multinational based. This is US, UK, Sweden, and Poland.
 
That is the "Furthest Along" and it is the most highly funded multinational vaccine. The others that might be further are not being created in this country creating other obstacles to getting the FDA approval. Are you going to jump right out there and try Russia's vaccine? The best hope for a vaccine to get widespread approval IMO will be to go multinational based. This is US, UK, Sweden, and Poland.

I'm not following your argument. AstraZenica is a British company and its vaccine, the one having some problems, is the one that is being developed using University of Oxford research. Moderna's vaccine is just as far along and it's an American company. Pfizer/BioNTech is an American company that has a vaccine in Phase 3 trials. Johnson & Johnson is an American company with a vaccine in Phase 3 trials. Operation Warp Speed has given funding to all of those companies and many more.

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/fact-sheet-operation-warp-speed.pdf

Here's a link to a vaccine tracker that shows the status of the dozens of vaccines under development:

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
 
Old college friends of my pops all in great shape, late 60s.

Sorry that your dad has had such a loss in so short of a time. Being in my late 60s and having a couple of risk factors, I'm doing my best to hide from the virus.
 
I'm not following your argument. AstraZenica is a British company and its vaccine, the one having some problems, is the one that is being developed using University of Oxford research. Moderna's vaccine is just as far along and it's an American company. Pfizer/BioNTech is an American company that has a vaccine in Phase 3 trials. Johnson & Johnson is an American company with a vaccine in Phase 3 trials. Operation Warp Speed has given funding to all of those companies and many more.

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/fact-sheet-operation-warp-speed.pdf

Here's a link to a vaccine tracker that shows the status of the dozens of vaccines under development:

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
AstraZenica is a Multinational Company

AstraZeneca PLC (/ˌæstrəˈzɛnəkə/) is a British multinational pharmaceutical and biopharmaceutical company with its global headquarters in Cambridge, England.[3] Its R&D is concentrated in Cambridge, Mölndal in Sweden, and Maryland and Toronto in North America.[4] AstraZeneca has a portfolio of products for major disease areas including cancer, cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, infection, neuroscience, respiratory and inflammation.[5]

The company was founded in 1999 through the merger of the Swedish Astra AB and the British Zeneca Group[6][7] (itself formed by the demerger of the pharmaceutical operations of Imperial Chemical Industries in 1993). Since the merger it has been among the world's largest pharmaceutical companies and has made numerous corporate acquisitions, including Cambridge Antibody Technology (in 2006), MedImmune (in 2007), Spirogen (in 2013) and Definiens (by MedImmune in 2014).

Now go read your own link. Cansino is Chinese. Not gonna pass FDA here in the States
AstraZeneca is second on the list and most heavily funded MULTINATIONAL VACCINE
Johnson and Johnson is still just past phase 3 and Moderna has not posted results at all.
Phizer is still on 2/3 but they are also very well funded. So lets hope!
 
I'm not following your argument
My argument as you are calling it is simple.
There is no argument. This was one of the furthest along most highly finance vaccines and it has hit a snag. This is to be expected and we will need to be cautious moving forward in the vaccine work.
NO A VACCIINE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE BY ELECTION DAY!
 
My argument as you are calling it is simple.
There is no argument. This was one of the furthest along most highly finance vaccines and it has hit a snag. This is to be expected and we will need to be cautious moving forward in the vaccine work.
NO A VACCIINE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE BY ELECTION DAY!

WELL, SHIT, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE? ONLY AN IMBECILE WOULD SAY A VACCINE WILL BE AVAILABLE BY ELECTION DAY!
 
AstraZenica is a Multinational Company

AstraZeneca PLC (/ˌæstrəˈzɛnəkə/) is a British multinational pharmaceutical and biopharmaceutical company with its global headquarters in Cambridge, England.[3] Its R&D is concentrated in Cambridge, Mölndal in Sweden, and Maryland and Toronto in North America.[4] AstraZeneca has a portfolio of products for major disease areas including cancer, cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, infection, neuroscience, respiratory and inflammation.[5]

The company was founded in 1999 through the merger of the Swedish Astra AB and the British Zeneca Group[6][7] (itself formed by the demerger of the pharmaceutical operations of Imperial Chemical Industries in 1993). Since the merger it has been among the world's largest pharmaceutical companies and has made numerous corporate acquisitions, including Cambridge Antibody Technology (in 2006), MedImmune (in 2007), Spirogen (in 2013) and Definiens (by MedImmune in 2014).

Now go read your own link. Cansino is Chinese. Not gonna pass FDA here in the States
AstraZeneca is second on the list and most heavily funded MULTINATIONAL VACCINE
Johnson and Johnson is still just past phase 3 and Moderna has not posted results at all.
Phizer is still on 2/3 but they are also very well funded. So lets hope!

Moderna is in Phase 3 and expects to be finished by early next year.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top