OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (4 Viewers)

[calvin natt]

Its not illegal though. Unless they are purposefully infecting people with COVID, I don't see the parallels.

What's next, should we ban people with AIDS or any STD from having intercourse?

My point was that you said you don’t believe in “draconian measures”, but in reality you do. When it’s something you are opposed to. If it were up to me vaccines would be needed in order to do some basic things. Call it draconian, literally don’t care. Want a license? Get the goddamn vax so we can move on. Want to send your kid to school with my 9 year old? Get vaxxed. And so on. I’m tired of all these dipshits who think they are smarter than every developed country’s top medical doctors and scientists.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Are you ok with forced vaccinations of the general population then?

Dogs are very familiar with forced vaccinations. It's about time you all joined the club.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

My point was that you said you don’t believe in “draconian measures”, but in reality you do. When it’s something you are opposed to. If it were up to me vaccines would be needed in order to do some basic things. Call it draconian, literally don’t care. Want a license? Get the goddamn vax so we can move on. Want to send your kid to school with my 9 year old? Get vaxxed. And so on. I’m tired of all these dipshits who think they are smarter than every developed country’s top medical doctors and scientists.

So you would be in favor of basically putting someone in house arrest when they haven't committed any crime? Got it. A defacto social credit violation. How Mao-esque of you. Your line of thought would have been locking up the gays in the 80s AIDS epidemic.


What draconian measures am I in favor about? Cracking the heads of people rioting and burning down buildings? That's nothing bad at all. Things that are illegal and are forms of property crimes or assault, I'm in favor of locking people up for a long ass time for those crimes. Mandatory minimums, 3 strikes and your out...I'm in favor of all that shit. But forcing experimental vaccinations on the general population or restricting their life to living a normal, basic life? Nah. Not good with that.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Jill Biden promotes COVID vaccines and Joining Forces in Hawaii and attracts group of anti-vax Trump supporters

• First lady Jill Biden attended a vaccination clinic Sunday in Hawaii and also a barbecue for military families, as part of the renewed 'Joining Forces' initiative
• At the vaccine clinic at Waipahu High School in Waipahu, Hawaii Biden attracted about 20 Trump supporters outside the venue
• A number of them held anti-vax signs including 'Protect Not Inject' and 'No Shots for Tots'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...attracts-group-anti-vax-Trump-supporters.html

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Are you ok with forced vaccinations of the general population then?

I'm in favor of people having to wear masks if they're not vaccinated.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So you would be in favor of basically putting someone in house arrest when they haven't committed any crime? Got it. A defacto social credit violation. How Mao-esque of you. Your line of thought would have been locking up the gays in the 80s AIDS epidemic.

And yet you talked your mom into buying dodge at 70 cents a coin. Now that is a crime.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

And yet you talked your mom into buying dodge at 70 cents a coin. Now that is a crime.

Nah, that was my bro. I wouldn't have let her trade.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm in favor of people having to wear masks if they're not vaccinated.

Everyone is going to have to mask up now.

Classic bait and switch.

"Get vaccinated and you won't need a mask"

2 months later:

"Everyone, get your masks back on!"

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Everyone is going to have to mask up now.

Classic bait and switch.

"Get vaccinated and you won't need a mask"

2 months later:

"Everyone, get your masks back on!"

No, that's only how you want to spin it.

You follow the data and make logical choices for you and your family.

We've started wearing masks again. I don't trust others to do the right thing and wear masks if they're not vaccinated.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No, that's only how you want to spin it.

You follow the data and make logical choices for you and your family.

We've started wearing masks again. I don't trust others to do the right thing and wear masks if they're not vaccinated.

We're required to wear masks indoors in LA, regardless of vaccination status.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Nah, that was my bro. I wouldn't have let her trade.

Uh huh.

 

[calvin natt]

So you would be in favor of basically putting someone in house arrest when they haven't committed any crime? Got it. A defacto social credit violation. How Mao-esque of you. Your line of thought would have been locking up the gays in the 80s AIDS epidemic.


What draconian measures am I in favor about? Cracking the heads of people rioting and burning down buildings? That's nothing bad at all. Things that are illegal and are forms of property crimes or assault, I'm in favor of locking people up for a long ass time for those crimes. Mandatory minimums, 3 strikes and your out...I'm in favor of all that shit. But forcing experimental vaccinations on the general population or restricting their life to living a normal, basic life? Nah. Not good with that.

You don’t have to vaccinate your kids. But then they can’t come to school. It’s not illegal

You have to use a company issued computer at my company. It’s not illegal to not use one but you can’t work here.

You had to wear masks for the last year. There wasn’t a law that requires it though.

You have to wear a uniform to play for the blazers. But it’s not illegal to not wear one. You just can’t play.

you are making this all about the law. I don’t care. I’m saying that it is widely agreed by scientists and the medical community that we need people to get vaccinated. So that’s what we do. If you don’t do it, ok, it’s not illegal, but then you can’t do X, Y and Z. It’s simple.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We're required to wear masks indoors in LA, regardless of vaccination status.

Good.

From what I've heard your hospitals are starting to fill up again.

Plus we need to try and get past this variant before fall and winter get here.

 

[calvin natt]

Everyone is going to have to mask up now.

Classic bait and switch.

"Get vaccinated and you won't need a mask"

2 months later:

"Everyone, get your masks back on!"

It’s not a bait and switch. Sounds like something you heard on Fox. Masks are going back on because we haven’t vaxxed enough. People didn’t anticipate Trumpers refusing a vaccine to this extent. So we are going backwards. Good work all.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You don’t have to vaccinate your kids. But then they can’t come to school. It’s not illegal

You have to use a company issued computer at my company. It’s not illegal to not use one but you can’t work here.

You had to wear masks for the last year. There wasn’t a law that requires it though.

You have to wear a uniform to play for the blazers. But it’s not illegal to not wear one. You just can’t play.

you are making this all about the law. I don’t care. I’m saying that it is widely agreed by scientists and the medical community that we need people to get vaccinated. So that’s what we do. If you don’t do it, ok, it’s not illegal, but then you can’t do X, Y and Z. It’s simple.

It isn't that simple. You cannot deny someone from living their life (and we're talking about very basic things like going to the store to buy food, freedom of movement, etc) because they chose not to get an experimental vaccine. I see it as a personal choice for people based on their own risk tolerance.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It’s not a bait and switch. Sounds like something you heard on Fox. Masks are going back on because we haven’t vaxxed enough. People didn’t anticipate Trumpers refusing a vaccine to this extent. So we are going backwards. Good work all.

It's exactly what a bait and switch is.

The bait was the promise of not wearing masks.

Then they switched it around.

Its not only Trumpers, its blacks and mexicans, who have been the least willing to get the vaccine and who have been disproportionally affected by COVID-19. Maybe you should vent your anger at them.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Its not illegal though. Unless they are purposefully infecting people with COVID, I don't see the parallels.

What's next, should we ban people with AIDS or any STD from having intercourse?

Doing nothing to prevent catching while doing nothing to prevent spreading a virus like covid-19 it is exactly that.

Are you joking? As of 2020, 37 states have laws that criminalize HIV exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Doing nothing to prevent catching while doing nothing to prevent spreading a virus like covid-19 it is exactly that.

Are you joking? As of 2020, 37 states have laws that criminalize HIV exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

Yeah, you would have locked up the gays in the 80s from going outside with your train of thought.

 

[calvin natt]

It's exactly what a bait and switch is.

The bait was the promise of not wearing masks.

Then they switched it around.

Its not only Trumpers, its blacks and mexicans, who have been the least willing to get the vaccine and who have been disproportionally affected by COVID-19. Maybe you should vent your anger at them.

A bait and switch is when the seller (promise maker) intentionally baits someone to do something knowing they will not fulfill the promise. So you think the govt all along knew or planned on going back to masks? They told people to take them off and all the while planned to have people put them back on. Which makes no logical sense.

 

[calvin natt]

Yeah, you would have locked up the gays in the 80s from going outside with your train of thought.

“The gays”.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

“The gays”.

TEH GHEY

 

[Phatguysrule]

It isn't that simple. You cannot deny someone from living their life (and we're talking about very basic things like going to the store to buy food, freedom of movement, etc) because they chose not to get an experimental vaccine. I see it as a personal choice for people based on their own risk tolerance.

No, I'm pretty sure we're talking about forcing them to mask if they can't prove they've been vaccinated.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

A bait and switch is when the seller (promise maker) intentionally baits someone to do something knowing they will not fulfill the promise. So you think the govt all along knew or planned on going back to masks? They told people to take them off and all the while planned to have people put them back on. Which makes no logical sense.

I believe they used the end of masks as bait to get everyone vaccination. The course changed back after the vaccination rates slowed and the went back to the mask mandates (or intend to do so in your area)

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No, I'm pretty sure we're talking about forcing them to mask if they can't prove they've been vaccinated.

They've already done away with that in my area. Masks for everyone are back. We've been talking about vaccine passports to move around and do basic things in life now.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

They put the "tent" up at my friend's hospital again out in the inland empire area of LA/SoCal.

 

[Phatguysrule]

They've already done away with that in my area. Masks for everyone are back. We've been talking about vaccine passports to move around and do basic things in life now.

I'm suggesting that you shouldn't be required to mask if you have been vaccinated. If you don't have a passport you have to mask.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm suggesting that you shouldn't be required to mask if you have been vaccinated. If you don't have a passport you have to mask.

I'm ok with that. Masks don't hurt anyone.

 

[calvin natt]

They put the "tent" up at my friend's hospital again out in the inland empire area of LA/SoCal.

Sounds like a bait and switch. They took it down and KNEW they were going to put it back up. Those sons of bitches

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Sounds like a bait and switch. They took it down and KNEW they were going to put it back up. Those sons of bitches

Wouldn't put it past them. They were never going to reach their vaccine targets. Biden's failure to distribute the vaccine.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

They put the "tent" up at my friend's hospital again out in the inland empire area of LA/SoCal.

Fascist!

What about the anti-campers who have covid? Why no cabins?