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SlyPokerDog said:
Maryland man, 46, is charged after shooting dead his pharmacist brother and his wife for 'killing people with the COVID shot' - suspect is also accused of fatally stabbing his mom's friend, 86
  • Jeffrey Burnham killed his pharmacist brother and two others because his sibling was 'killing people with the Covid-19 vaccine,' court papers state
  • Burnham, of Cumberland, 46, allegedly shot dead his brother and sister-in-law, Brian Robinette, 58, and his wife Kelly Sue, 57
  • He also is accused of stabbing to death Rebecca Reynolds, 83, a close friend of his mothers, so he could steal her car and drive it to his brother's house
  • Police arrested him in West Virginia after an 18-hour manhunt that ended when he told a firefighter that he ‘had been forced to kill three people'
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ist-brother-two-giving-Covid-19-vaccines.html
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Do you think he might have some mental issues.
 
Hypocrites at Fox News Undermine COVID Vaccine & Zuckerberg Fires Back at Facebook Whistleblower.

 
Was wondering. There are people here, that want mandatory vaccines and say I am putting them on risk by not taking it. It is a simple fear that is pushing you to take off my rights to my body.
What if I am afraid of how vaccines will destroy my body.
How is your fear better than mine?
 
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You know, I don't want nothing from you. Nothing. If you afraid to go outside, stay home.
I don't know about this vacc effects and even WHO says over and over again, that they don't know much about them. Yet, you know they are save, simply bc you refuse to give up going to basketball games, so you gonna go and do 5th booster next year again. There is no scientific proof, that is behind your logic, but fear and impatient selfishness.
 
royo said:
Was wondering. There are people here, that want mandatory vaccines and say I am putting them on risk by not taking it. It is a simple fear that is pushing you to take off my rights to my body.
What if I am afraid of how vaccines will destroy my body.
How is your fear better than mine?
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You have a right to not get immunized if you want to avoid the public where you would infringe on my right to not catch your disease. Similarly I have the right to not be exposed to your cigarette smoke so you cannot smoke in my clean air. i.e. your right ends where my nose begins.
 
royo said:
You know, I don't want nothing from you. Nothing. If you afraid to go outside, stay home.
I don't know about this vacc effects and even WHO says over and over again, that they don't know much about them. Yet, you know they are save, simply bc you refuse to give up going to basketball games, so you gonna go and do 5th booster next year again. There is no scientific proof, that is behind your logic, but fear and impatient selfishness.
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I have the Constitutional right to go out in the public and be reasonably safe as do you if you want to immunize.
You have no Constitutional right to endanger me as I have no right to endanger you.
Just go get the God Damned shot and quit your stupid belly aching.
I'm sorry, was that too harsh? Please go get the God Damned shot and please quit your belly aching.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Maryland man, 46, is charged after shooting dead his pharmacist brother and his wife for 'killing people with the COVID shot' - suspect is also accused of fatally stabbing his mom's friend, 86
  • Jeffrey Burnham killed his pharmacist brother and two others because his sibling was 'killing people with the Covid-19 vaccine,' court papers state
  • Burnham, of Cumberland, 46, allegedly shot dead his brother and sister-in-law, Brian Robinette, 58, and his wife Kelly Sue, 57
  • He also is accused of stabbing to death Rebecca Reynolds, 83, a close friend of his mothers, so he could steal her car and drive it to his brother's house
  • Police arrested him in West Virginia after an 18-hour manhunt that ended when he told a firefighter that he ‘had been forced to kill three people'
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ist-brother-two-giving-Covid-19-vaccines.html
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Dude allegedly murders three people plus grand larceny and is taken alive. George Floyd suspected of bogus $20 bill and cops murder him. Good thing there is no such thing as white privilege.
 
royo said:
Was wondering. There are people here, that want mandatory vaccines and say I am putting them on risk by not taking it. It is a simple fear that is pushing you to take off my rights to my body.
What if I am afraid of how vaccines will destroy my body.
How is your fear better than mine?
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My fear of unvaccinated people spreading disease is rational because it is based on proven facts and data showing a significant increase in pain, suffering, and death among and due to unvaccinated people.

Your fear of the vaccine is not rational because facts and data have shown no increased pain, suffering, or death rate among the vaccinated.
 
royo said:
You know, I don't want nothing from you. Nothing. If you afraid to go outside, stay home.
I don't know about this vacc effects and even WHO says over and over again, that they don't know much about them. Yet, you know they are save, simply bc you refuse to give up going to basketball games, so you gonna go and do 5th booster next year again. There is no scientific proof, that is behind your logic, but fear and impatient selfishness.
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There is scientific proof that vaccines are safe. Billions of people have taken the vaccine over the last 18 months and there are no long term consequences associated with the vaccine.

There has never been a vaccine with long term side effects presenting more than 8 weeks after vaccination. Most long term side effects present within 2wks.

These vaccines have shown nothing like that at elevated rates compared to control groups.

Whoever is scaring you about the vaccine is either ignorant or evil. Please talk to a licensed doctor and listen their advice.
 
royo said:
Was wondering. There are people here, that want mandatory vaccines and say I am putting them on risk by not taking it. It is a simple fear that is pushing you to take off my rights to my body.
What if I am afraid of how vaccines will destroy my body.
How is your fear better than mine?
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because its a fact if your emotions of fear are not exactly like someone else's you are wrong. Its a fact that only one person has the factually correct amount of fear in them.
How dare you think its okay to have your own fear level over things!!!

don't you know we must all be emotional robots linked up to the same central nervous system only one person has deemed the correct one.
If you don't feel the exact same way, your emotions are wrong!!! Its a fact!!!

How dare you think your fear is relevant!!!!!


Better think like me, agree with me, fear like me or you are factually incorrect!!!!
 
Phatguysrule said:
There is scientific proof that vaccines are safe. Billions of people have taken the vaccine over the last 18 months and there are no long term consequences associated with the vaccine.

There has never been a vaccine with long term side effects presenting more than 8 weeks after vaccination. Most long term side effects present within 2wks.

These vaccines have shown nothing like that at elevated rates compared to control groups.

Whoever is scaring you about the vaccine is either ignorant or evil. Please talk to a licensed doctor and listen their advice.
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I'll just stop here for a second. You are teaching me about "long term effects" after not even a year after vac been introduced to billions of people.
Try to smoke pack of cigarettes for 10months, go back and tell me you have no long term effects on your body.

And Lenny, we both heard, that vaccined people spread this stuff same way as nonvacinated. And you probably heard, that I have constitutional right not to be part of medical experiment if I don't want it. It is not me, who afraid of the virus, it's you, so how the fuck I should stay home, not you?
 
royo said:
I'll just stop here for a second. You are teaching me about "long term effects" after not even a year after vac been introduced to billions of people.
Try to smoke pack of cigarettes for 10months, go back and tell me you have no long term effects on your body.

And Lenny, we both heard, that vaccined people spread this stuff same way as nonvacinated. And you probably heard, that I have constitutional right not to be part of medical experiment if I don't want it. It is not me, who afraid of the virus, it's you, so how the fuck I should stay home, not you?
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Cigarettes are not vaccines. This isn't even an apples and oranges comparison. More like apples and elephants.

And no, vaccinated people do not spread the virus the same as unvaccinated people. The vaccinated are at least 25x LESS likely to spread the virus.
 
crandc said:
The unvaccinated should stay home because they endanger others. The vaccinated do not. Nothing to do with fear or robots or politics. Virus doesn't give a shit.
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You are protected, so I am dangerous for you, bc I am not protected. Got it.
 
All in all, for me, you can do whatever you want. You can go vax yourself or not, you can stay home or go out. Really, do what you want.
I mean, it's a free country.
 
royo said:
You are protected, so I am dangerous for you, bc I am not protected. Got it.
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The unvaccinated are overwhelming our medical services so people who have non-covid medical problems are dying of because of unvaccinated people every day.

I know of several people who will probably die in the next few months because they can't get in for a surgery that would save their lives.

They can't get in because hospitals are overwhelmed with unvaccinated covid patients.
 
royo said:
All in all, for me, you can do whatever you want. You can go vax yourself or not, you can stay home or go out. Really, do what you want.
I mean, it's a free country.
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Yep. So during a pandemic hospitals should be required to treat all fully vaccinated people first.

It's a free country and the people who choose to use that freedom to ignore preventative medical care should just continue treating themselves at home if they catch a disease vaccination could have prevented.

As soon as we make that change I'll agree with you.
 
Phatguysrule said:
The unvaccinated are overwhelming our medical services so people who have non-covid medical problems are dying of because of unvaccinated people every day.

I know of several people who will probably die in the next few months because they can't get in for a surgery that would save their lives.

They can't get in because hospitals are overwhelmed with unvaccinated covid patients.
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Phatguysrule said:
Yep. So during a pandemic hospitals should be required to treat all fully vaccinated people first.

It's a free country and the people who choose to use that freedom to ignore preventative medical care should just continue treating themselves at home if they catch a disease vaccination could have prevented.

As soon as we make that change I'll agree with you.
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I'd like to see you tomorrow protesting under McDonalds or PizzaHut. Or you can go to protest to the liqueur store. Or maybe start anti cigarette campaign. After you get rid of all this stuff, I'll agree with you.
 
royo said:
I'd like to see you tomorrow protesting under McDonalds or PizzaHut. Or you can go to protest to the liqueur store. Or maybe start anti cigarette campaign. After you get rid of all this stuff, I'll agree with you.
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This is another apples to elephants comparison of yours.

None of those examples are freely available medical treatments which are addressed with under 30 minutes of your time. None of your examples are relevant to a pandemic.
 
Ok, I see. So you saying that your science can not connect healthy or unhealthy lifestyle with immune system, that can or can not fight the virus.
According to this science vaccinated fat burger addict is less likely to go down on hospital bed with covid to clog your place, than unvaccinated Kyrie Irving. Good luck with that logic.
 
royo said:
Ok, I see. So you saying that your science can not connect healthy or unhealthy lifestyle with immune system, that can or can not fight the virus.
According to this science vaccinated fat burger addict is less likely to go down on hospital bed with covid to clog your place, than unvaccinated Kyrie Irving. Good luck with that logic.
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Correct, kind of. Hospitals are full of unvaccinated covid patients. Less than 10% of ICU patients are vaccinated.

If everyone were vaccinated we'd have over 80% fewer covid patients in hospitals and the pandemic would be over.
 
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/192032

This study was done 20 years ago but obesity is killing approx 300k people a year. Covid has killed a little over 600,00o in a put a year and a half. covid will run its course and be gone but lets say on five years. So thats 30 million


Obesity has killed 60 mill in the last 20 years and will kill another 60 mill in another 20 years.

@royo i get your point about the fast foods.

Others may not, but thats on them. Don't let them spin and twist to try to pass off their opinions as facts, regarding whats relevant.
 
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