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SlyPokerDog said:
If it's on VAERS it's true!
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That is such a stupid argument. I've already addressed that. The reports are verified, most are submitted by medical professionals and its known to be vastly UNDER reported. But you don't want to learn anything you just want to make pedantic arguments.
 
https://news.yahoo.com/gov-desantis-r-fl-claims-210415359.html

Gov. DeSantis (R-FL) claims tourists tell him, “This must be what it was like going from East Berlin to West Berlin.”

In a press conference in Florida, Gov. DeSantis (R-FL) claims tourists tell him, “This must be what it was like going from East Berlin to West Berlin,” in regards to Florida’s relaxed covid policy. Over the course of the pandemic, Florida consistently went against CDC guidelines to help contain the spread of Covid-19.

Gov. DeSantis (R-FL) “People would tell me, they would come from Lockdown jurisdictions and they’d land in Florida, and they're like, this must be what it was, like, going from East Berlin to West Berlin. It was, it was like a different country. And people are looking around, like, oh my gosh, people are actually living normally, but they wanted to visit because they wanted to be able to make their own decisions. They wanted to be free, they didn't want to have mandates imposed on them or vax passports, or any of that. And so that was one of the reasons why we set a record.”
 
I know when I fly somewhere, I am generally greeted by the governor to give them my opinions.
 
RR7 said:
I know when I fly somewhere, I am generally greeted by the governor to give them my opinions.
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Lucky You.

DeSantis was probably talking about those he's met out and about.
 
Florida has had over 80 thousand covid deaths...
Oregon has had over 8 thousand covid deaths...
I think Oregon wins the going to West Berlin from East Berlin test big time.
Florida also had just under 8 million covid cases and probably more that were swept under the rug to skew the numbers
Oregon had just over 800 thousand cases...on pretty accurate record keeping.
Apparently those "East Berliners" going to the mask free Florida life brought covid with them as well as their airborne wheezing. Many left the Florida vacation and then went home to Nebraska or Tennessee and died of covid making it another states statistic. Disneyworld was worth losing grandpa and grandma damnit!
 
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riverman said:
Florida has had over 80 thousand covid deaths...
Oregon has had over 8 thousand covid deaths...
I think Oregon wins the going to West Berlin from East Berlin test big time.
Florida also had just under 8 million covid cases and probably more that were swept under the rug to skew the numbers
Oregon had just over 800 thousand cases...on pretty accurate record keeping.
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And that doesn't factor in, by staying open, the amount of people who traveled there, got covid in Florida, and either went home to die, or to spread it to others who died.
 
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Trump 2.0. Forever boasting about the praise supposedly healed on him.
 
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riverman said:
Florida has had over 80 thousand covid deaths...
Oregon has had over 8 thousand covid deaths...
I think Oregon wins the going to West Berlin from East Berlin test big time.
Florida also had just under 8 million covid cases and probably more that were swept under the rug to skew the numbers
Oregon had just over 800 thousand cases...on pretty accurate record keeping.
Apparently those "East Berliners" going to the mask free Florida life brought covid with them as well as their airborne wheezing. Many left the Florida vacation and then went home to Nebraska or Tennessee and died of covid making it another states statistic. Disneyworld was worth losing grandpa and grandma damnit!
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You are way too simple minded. For one florida is older and has a much larger elderly population. The counting of deaths as a covid death is also problematic, and susceptible to wide variations

Florida actually had a lower excess death rate in 2020 and 2021 than California.

Major john hopkins study found no benefit to lockdown measures. There are also many more social and ethical parts to this equation.

How ironic that you compare a freer society to east Berlin. Heil shitler!
 
ABM said:
Gov. DeSantis (R-FL) claims tourists tell him, “This must be what it was like going from East Berlin to West Berlin.”
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Here's the Berlin quote.....wasn't me that posted it here.
 
riverman said:
I didn't compare it to Berlin....ABMs DeSantis article did....I was showing the folly of it but you can call me simple minded....I'll refrain from insulting you although many come to mind...first one is...I have no interest in your false information, propaganda spreading false info......facts are facts....virologists around the globe disagree with your spin...as do I. Engage someone else...I don't place any value on your opinion about this topic so we're at an impasse'. You are fear mongering for political sensationalism. I'm following proven preventative safety measures that saves lives. Go get your vaccination and be responsible....you have a lot of misinformation in your posts. I have no interest in them. I have family in 3 countries that have info contradicting your spin. I know a lot of medical professionals who also disagree with your info....don't waste it on me. I'm living proof you're wrong.
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Your piece of evidence was very simple minded. I think you can do better but are stuck to a certain position. I am using data to back up what I'm saying.

A lot of doctors are on my side, but the cost of that is great and most don't have the courage to face the fire .

We are in such a pathetic situation with people cheering on iatrogenocide and the destruction of our free society.
 
Your using personal anecdote, for which i could rebut with 100 others. Iatrogenocide is a spin on iatrocide...meaning its kind of by accident on purpose.

Im glad you've not gotten covid, but you may have already had it. There is a lot of evidence that it was spreading around for awhile.
 
Im unvaccinated, got covid from my boosted cousin, and she got it 10x worse. Didn't catch it a 2nd time from family member who got it twice.

If you simply look at the increase in covid deaths post vaccine rollout, it becomes plain to see that at minimum, it didn't work.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
What data are you using?

Link(s)?
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My stance can be demonstrated using official government data from the us and many other countries. I could send you hundreds of links to all kinds of analysis done by professionals.
 
Look, the fda just approved the new booster based on a test with 8 mice. Those familar with this process understand how crazy thay is.
 
The test is a joke, but why should pharma bother when the fda whores will rubber stamp anything.
 
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