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crandc said:
If shots stayed in the injection site, we would only have immunity in the upper arm. Or ass, sometimes.
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And after much YouTube research into the fields of biology, viroligy, epidemiology, and specificaly medical human anatomy this morning I have determined that this would be only slightly better than no immunity at all.
 
barfo said:
Luckily, I'm a cat, so I still have one last life to use.
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I believe it's the great Alex Horne that has a joke about how many lives cats got around the world. UK cats, obviously get 9, French ones get 7 and Greek ones get 0. Oh wait, I read it wrong, they get olives.
 
Listen to Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi's presentation before the German Parliament (english subcaptions).
 
beast crnjo said:
Listen to Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi's presentation before the German Parliament (english subcaptions).
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Right, gonna listen to a guy name Sugartit. And serious question; did you actually (and genuinely) understand the gist of the whole thing? Do you really understand (or think you do) the science of what he is saying? And why should we believe this gentleman over other scientists? I guess it all boils down to personal beliefs/choices and the end results of those choices. I choose to believe what fits MY beliefs and biases. Welcome to the America the Right is doing their best to destroy.......
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Right, gonna listen to a guy name Sugartit. And serious question; did you actually (and genuinely) understand the gist of the whole thing? Do you really understand (or think you do) the science of what he is saying? And why should we believe this gentleman over other scientists? I guess it all boils down to personal beliefs/choices and the end results of those choices. I choose to believe what fits MY beliefs and biases. Welcome to the America the Right is doing their best to destroy.......
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You're not going to listen to him because he has a Thai name? He's from Thailand and moved to Germany and is a professor of micro biology. And yes, I understood what he is saying. He presented it in an easy to understand way.

You don't have to believe him, you don't have to listen to him. I simply put it forward for those who may want to encounter a different point of view. I've spent hundreds of hours studying this issue, from many angles and the work of many analysts, and it's crystal clear to me that he is right.
 
Also the masses of doctors are simply going along with the party line, and haven't really studied this issue with critical thought. This wouldn't be the first time that a dangerous substance has been implemented, with only a small minority objecting. Happened with things like cigarettes, leaded gasoline etc...
 
Do you all think this is impossible? Think of how much talk there has been, among world elites about the danger of over-population. All the Malthusian talk.....
 
beast crnjo said:
Do you all think this is impossible? Think of how much talk there has been, among world elites about the danger of over-population. All the Malthusian talk.....
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It's not that it's "impossible". It's just that there is no reliable evidence and there is no way you could keep something like that reasonably under wraps.

The overpopulation thing is going to solve itself anyway. That's just what happens when people are lifted out of poverty. They stop having so many kids.
 
I don't "believe" science. I accept data for which there is strong evidence. It's not belief.
 
Phatguysrule said:
It's not that it's "impossible". It's just that there is no reliable evidence and there is no way you could keep something like that reasonably under wraps.

The overpopulation thing is going to solve itself anyway. That's just what happens when people are lifted out of poverty. They stop having so many kids.
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A few things to consider:
1. Many top world leaders have talked about the problem of over-population
2. It's reasonable to believe that over-population could lead to mass privation and chaos
3. If you think about how to solve the problem of overpopulation, the most reasonable solution seems to be to reduce reproduction, and it can be difficult to force.
4. We know that the MRNA shot does not stay in the shoulder, but travels throughout the body, and concentrates more in the ovaries than any other organ.
5. Getting people to take the shot was one of the primary goals of the pandemic response.
6. A stark and sudden affect would need to be avoided, as to not scare people away form it, and get people to look for the perprators.
7. We are seeing drops in birth rates and even maternal death that correlate to vaccine rollout for women of those ages.



Vast majority of people wouldn't even known what it was doing.
 
In my case I have seen regularly heart specialists and surgeons and my VA doctor as well and my in laws here in Oregon and my inlaws overseas in Taiwan have had all of our medical professionals agree about the pandemic and the vaccines. These are not gas station attendants or short order cooks. I have to say that every one of them voluntarily has been immunized and is healthy and alive today as am I. As to the birth rate dropping that's also linked to evolution as the population increases. Fewer young folks are choosing to become parents. My daughter in law has had two healthy pregnancies sincce the pandemic and my first great grandchild was born recently and is healthy. The science around my life is demonstrable and politics has nothing to do with it other than causing deaths by denial early on. Any person who believed they were some plot to kill off humanity probably didn't get the shot or just didn't like washing their hands and wearing a mask.
 
beast crnjo said:
A few things to consider:
1. Many top world leaders have talked about the problem of over-population
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Not sure about this. Would need more specifics.

beast crnjo said:
2. It's reasonable to believe that over-population could lead to mass privation and chaos
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Every developed nation in the world is looking at an inverted population pyramid within 50 years. Some are already experiencing it.

Overpopulation is not a concern for pretty much ANY current world leader. Having enough laborers to care for their currently aging populations is a FAR bigger problem.

Every state in the US is competing to get more people to move there. Virtually every country in the world is doing the same.

beast crnjo said:
3. If you think about how to solve the problem of overpopulation, the most reasonable solution seems to be to reduce reproduction, and it can be difficult to force.
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See above. It's not a problem. Every world leader knows that.

beast crnjo said:
4. We know that the MRNA shot does not stay in the shoulder, but travels throughout the body, and concentrates more in the ovaries than any other organ.
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It wouldn't work if it were supposed to stay in the shoulder.

beast crnjo said:
5. Getting people to take the shot was one of the primary goals of the pandemic response.
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Getting people vaccinated during a pandemic is THE single biggest goal (next to keeping the currently sick alive). That's been the case for every epidemic or pandemic.

beast crnjo said:
6. A stark and sudden affect would need to be avoided, as to not scare people away form it, and get people to look for the perprators.
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"Getting people vaccinated during a pandemic is THE single biggest goal"

beast crnjo said:
7. We are seeing drops in birth rates and even maternal death that correlate to vaccine rollout for women of those ages.
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Source please?

beast crnjo said:
Vast majority of people wouldn't even known what it was doing.
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Yes, it's almost like it's not real.
 
beast crnjo said:
You don't have to believe him, you don't have to listen to him.
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Excellent. I like those options.

I simply put it forward for those who may want to encounter a different point of view. I've spent hundreds of hours studying this issue, from many angles and the work of many analysts, and it's crystal clear to me that he is right.
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Then if we wanted to encounter a different point of view, we could just listen to you, right? No need to waste time watching a video.

I've listened to you, encountered your point of view, and I find your scientific rigor lacking. Sorry.

barfo
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Not sure about this. Would need more specifics.


Every developed nation in the world is looking at an inverted population pyramid within 50 years. Some are already experiencing it.

Overpopulation is not a concern for pretty much ANY current world leader. Having enough laborers to care for their currently aging populations is a FAR bigger problem.

Every state in the US is competing to get more people to move there. Virtually every country in the world is doing the same.


See above. It's not a problem. Every world leader knows that.


It wouldn't work if it were supposed to stay in the shoulder.


Getting people vaccinated during a pandemic is THE single biggest goal (next to keeping the currently sick alive). That's been the case for every epidemic or pandemic.


"Getting people vaccinated during a pandemic is THE single biggest goal"


Source please?



Yes, it's almost like it's not real.
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Actually, the vaccine was supposed to stay in the shoulder, that's what we were initially told, even though Pfizer's own biodistribution studies showed otherwise.

Many first world countries are seeing a decline in birth rate to below replacement yes. But there is still plenty of concern about the population, concern about what to do with all the "useless eaters" once AI replaces jobs. I'm not saying population is an issue, but there are many who believe that, it's been written and spoken about in elite circles for decades.
 
The bottom line of it all: we have an elite that want to control everything. They want to control the food supply, the water supply, they want total control of the economy, and a renter class of peasants who own nothing. They don't think they need 10 billion people on the world to do so, and know they can't afford our pensions (so lowering life expetency by offing the vulnerable is a nice bonus).

Covid was not a natural virus, it was probably infectious clones created by a corrupt wing of the US military, spread in certain hot spots, like New York, who then got a death count by their own medical policies (ventiliators, remdesivir, no antibiotics for pnemonia), then they got the whole nation scared, put us in lockdowns (which has never been done for the health before, and was not in any plan), supressed any doctor who found effective treatments, so we'd all be twiddling our thumbs and eager to take this vaccine, which they declared to be the only way out.

Mom and pop stores were closed while the big corporate chains were deemed essential. And they trained people to be scared of owning property because rent could be cancelled at any time. Transfection is bad news, and now they want to convert all vaccines to MRNA. I believe depopulation is one of their key objectives.
 
beast crnjo said:
Actually, the vaccine was supposed to stay in the shoulder, that's what we were initially told, even though Pfizer's own biodistribution studies showed otherwise.

Many first world countries are seeing a decline in birth rate to below replacement yes. But there is still plenty of concern about the population, concern about what to do with all the "useless eaters" once AI replaces jobs. I'm not saying population is an issue, but there are many who believe that, it's been written and spoken about in elite circles for decades.
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I don't think so. I never heard that. It has to propagate throughout your body or it wouldn't have any possibility of being effective.

Nobody serious or that has any control has any concern with overpopulation.
 
beast crnjo said:
I've spent hundreds of hours studying this issue, from many angles and the work of many analysts, and it's crystal clear to me that he is right.
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beast crnjo said:
Actually, the vaccine was supposed to stay in the shoulder
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Apparently hundreds of hours wasn't nearly enough.

And really, why would it be? Hundreds of hours doesn't make you an expert. Actual experts in that field - really in any field - have spent years, not hours, learning the ropes.

You don't know enough yet to know what you don't know, and that's a dangerous position to be in - especially when coupled with a love of conspiracy theories.

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I just made banana pudding with chocolate milk.

I never did that before I got the vaccine.

Help!
 
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