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SlyPokerDog said:
Credible link?
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You wouldn't read any analysis I posted. But excess mortality went up after vaccine rollout in most nations. Vaccine death has been confirmed by pathologists. The CEO of Moderna was openly discussing how the MRNA platform was so dangerous that it should only be used in terminal patients.
 
beast crnjo said:
You wouldn't read any analysis I posted. But excess mortality went up after vaccine rollout in most nations. Vaccine death has been confirmed by pathologists. The CEO of Moderna was openly discussing how the MRNA platform was so dangerous that it should only be used in terminal patients.
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If you posted a credible link I'd read it.
 
THE HCP said:
You are pro guns…pro trump….and anti abortion aren’t you? Just curious.
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He also believes Hillary Clinton eats babies in the basement of a pizza & ping-pong parlor.

(Everyone knows that the pizza place doesn't have a basement and Hillary eats the babies in the back of her limo.)
 
I could sit here all night and post links, but just a few corresponding to what I said in the post, which is a tiny sampling of the overall evidence. You will just say they are not "credible" and give yourself an excuse not to read.

Forensic proof of vaccine induced death:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36436002/

MRNA Platform known to be dangerous:
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

Increased mortality after vaccine rollout
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality-e07
 
THE HCP said:
You are pro guns…pro trump….and anti abortion aren’t you? Just curious.
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Pro 1st amendment, I think Trump is better than Biden, but am not "pro" Trump, and yeah, abortion is murder after so many weeks.
 
Why would Anthony Fauci recommend a drug, Remdesivir, to be the approved treatment for Covid, when it its trial against Ebola, it performed WORSE than placebo, and resulted in the deaths of some of the patients. Producing the renal failure symptoms that were reported as covid deaths?

Why would they issue guidance to withhold anti-biotics for covid, when it's always been standard practice to administer anti-biotics to prevent secondary infections?

And what do you know, after they declare a pandemic and implement these measures, pnemonia deaths skyrocket (which are counted as covid deaths) (not to mention the harm of using ventilators in an attempt to stop the spread).

Why was a panel of doctors not conviented to network and figure out what treatments worked? Treatment was decreed by corrupt beurocrats, and doctors who found effective treatments were silenced.

Everything was ass backwards.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Did you read that or just the headline?
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No, they determined that at least some of those studied died from the vaccine. The forensic evidence, case studies, reports to systems like VAERS, data from the population at large, over several countries, it all lines up.

You want to stay stuck in ignorance, because the TV told you your tribe supports the vaccine and the enemy tribe is against it, but that's a produce of the psychological warfare that's been waged on you.
 
beast crnjo said:
Increased mortality after vaccine rollout
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality-e07
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I ask for credible. Those links are by one person with no medical training and lots of statements like, " Now I personally suspect that over 100,000 Americans have been killed by the experimental vaccines. Others I know think the number may be as large as a quarter of a million."
 
beast crnjo said:
No, they determined that at least some of those studied died from the vaccine. The forensic evidence, case studies, reports to systems like VAERS, data from the population at large, over several countries, it all lines up.

You want to stay stuck in ignorance, because the TV told you your tribe supports the vaccine and the enemy tribe is against it, but that's a produce of the psychological warfare that's been waged on you.
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The researchers examined autopsy data from 35 people who died unexpectedly within 20 days of COVID-19 vaccination and concluded that for two of them, vaccine-induced myocarditis represented the “likely” cause of death, while for three others, the condition was a “possible” cause of death.

Some experts, however, have questioned those conclusions — and even if valid, they don’t mean the risks of vaccination outweigh the benefits. On the contrary, numerous studies have shown the vaccines provide good protection against severe COVID-19 and death — and only rarely cause serious side effects. Studies have also shown that in most age groups myocarditis following vaccination is less frequent than after COVID-19, and clinically, most vaccine-related myocarditis cases are mild. This context was missing when many people shared the autopsy study online.

“Autopsies found that 5/35 people who died suddenly within 20 days of COVID-19 vaccination had myocarditis as a likely/possible cause of death,” Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo tweeted on Dec. 2, linking to the study.

“These deaths aren’t captured by other studies because these patients never made it to the hospital…mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are far less safe than any vaccines widely used. When does sanity return to science? Why do scientists breathlessly defend this technology?” he added, in a tweet that got over 18,000 likes.

Ladapo also misleadingly said that the autopsy study was “consistent with Florida’s analysis,” referring to a discredited analysis performed by the Florida Department of Health. It purportedly found an increased risk of cardiac-related death following vaccination in younger adult males and was the basis for the state to no longer recommend the mRNA vaccines for that group in October. As we wrote at the time, experts in statistics said the analysis was flawed.

Last week, in a roundtable hosted by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Ladapo announced a plan to study myocarditis in people who died within a few weeks of COVID-19 vaccination using autopsy results, inspired by the German report. (For more information, see SciCheck’s “DeSantis’ Dubious COVID-19 Vaccine Claims.”)

Ladapo’s tweet was followed by multiple articles, videos and social media posts suggesting the German autopsy report’s findings were alarming. The report was embraced by those who have been advancing the false narrative that the vaccines are causing widespread deaths. Its publication came just a few days after the release of “Died Suddenly,” a viral video that baselessly claimed the vaccines were causing people to suddenly drop dead in a plot to depopulate the world.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The researchers examined autopsy data from 35 people who died unexpectedly within 20 days of COVID-19 vaccination and concluded that for two of them, vaccine-induced myocarditis represented the “likely” cause of death, while for three others, the condition was a “possible” cause of death.

Some experts, however, have questioned those conclusions — and even if valid, they don’t mean the risks of vaccination outweigh the benefits. On the contrary, numerous studies have shown the vaccines provide good protection against severe COVID-19 and death — and only rarely cause serious side effects. Studies have also shown that in most age groups myocarditis following vaccination is less frequent than after COVID-19, and clinically, most vaccine-related myocarditis cases are mild. This context was missing when many people shared the autopsy study online.

“Autopsies found that 5/35 people who died suddenly within 20 days of COVID-19 vaccination had myocarditis as a likely/possible cause of death,” Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo tweeted on Dec. 2, linking to the study.

“These deaths aren’t captured by other studies because these patients never made it to the hospital…mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are far less safe than any vaccines widely used. When does sanity return to science? Why do scientists breathlessly defend this technology?” he added, in a tweet that got over 18,000 likes.

Ladapo also misleadingly said that the autopsy study was “consistent with Florida’s analysis,” referring to a discredited analysis performed by the Florida Department of Health. It purportedly found an increased risk of cardiac-related death following vaccination in younger adult males and was the basis for the state to no longer recommend the mRNA vaccines for that group in October. As we wrote at the time, experts in statistics said the analysis was flawed.

Last week, in a roundtable hosted by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Ladapo announced a plan to study myocarditis in people who died within a few weeks of COVID-19 vaccination using autopsy results, inspired by the German report. (For more information, see SciCheck’s “DeSantis’ Dubious COVID-19 Vaccine Claims.”)

Ladapo’s tweet was followed by multiple articles, videos and social media posts suggesting the German autopsy report’s findings were alarming. The report was embraced by those who have been advancing the false narrative that the vaccines are causing widespread deaths. Its publication came just a few days after the release of “Died Suddenly,” a viral video that baselessly claimed the vaccines were causing people to suddenly drop dead in a plot to depopulate the world.
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It was a study of 25 people that they expanded to 35 people.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Sure, about 35-40 weeks
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It’s cavemen like THIS that blows my mind that you agree with him on guns…….You seem like a dialed dude, yet you two could someday share a bunker with tinfoil on your heads.
 
THE HCP said:
It’s cavemen like THIS that blows my mind that you agree with him on guns…….You seem like a dialed dude, yet you two could someday share a bunker with tinfoil on your heads.
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Maybe. But only if the tinfoil was left over hotdog wrapping. A hotdog with mayo, obviously...

Seriously though, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Beast being mostly right on gun rights means they are a real person rather than a paid bot or whatever.
 
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