could be an interesting acquisition..help at 1b and DH

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The article seems to think the acquisition of Garrett Jones in the Eovoldi trade could be (and I tend to agree) a good pickup to help out at 1b and DH.

He did tail off last year but still wasn't "bad" vs RHP.
.250 BA, 314 OBP, .435 slg%, .749 ops

Career vs RHP
.267 BA, .333 OBP, .479 slg%, .811 ops

http://www.baseballessential.com/ne...-jones-will-be-vital-for-the-yankees-success/


Phelps and Prado for Eovoldi, Jones and Domingo German.

IMHO....I would have no problem if the Yanks had just made a straight up trade Phelps for German at this point in their careers.
 
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blgridesagain said:
The article seems to think the acquisition of Garrett Jones in the Eovoldi trade could be (and I tend to agree) a good pickup to help out at 1b and DH.

He did tail off last year but still wasn't "bad" vs RHP.
.250 BA, 314 OBP, .435 slg%, .749 ops

Career vs RHP
.267 BA, .333 OBP, .479 slg%, .811 ops

http://www.baseballessential.com/ne...-jones-will-be-vital-for-the-yankees-success/


Phelps and Prado for Eovoldi, Jones and Domingo German.

IMHO....I would have no problem if the Yanks had just made a straight up trade Phelps for German at this point in their careers.
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I'm guessing this is under the assumption (by the author) that A-Rod won't be effective at 1st or DH?
 
...^^^ lmao...funny how that works, huh?

...I have no idea why "career" stats are used to gauge how Jones has been recently. If that's the case, well hey, let's go ahead and use ARod's career #s (.299 .384 .558 .942)...as well as Tex's career #s (.273 .364 .516 .881)

..and Jones didn't just "fall off last year"...his 2013 season was no better vs Rhed pitching
(.241 .295 .435 .730)..and defensively, he's also one of the very worst 1Bmen in the game.
 
I may be in the minority but I still don't get giving up Prado, which IMO may come back to bite us in the ass.
 
Rick2583 said:
I may be in the minority but I still don't get giving up Prado, which IMO may come back to bite us in the ass.
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...yup, don't think you're in the minority...others have been saying it since it happened...Prado is a solid all around player who can play multiple positions in the IF/OF...never have been sold on Headley.
 
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Rick2583 said:
I may be in the minority but I still don't get giving up Prado, which IMO may come back to bite us in the ass.
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Not a bit in the minority, Prado came over, played well and became respected by the fans. So well assess his value in'15 as a bright spot and Brian the Brain trades him. I'd say the same for Greene, short stay but I liked that kid , felt he needed more practice throwing to first. Again Brian the Brain in action. Cashman better hope Di Di works out. Ah shit don't worry, the Yankees have Drew in there.
 
^^^ lol...yeah this team "is built for the post season">
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
Not a bit in the minority, Prado came over, played well and became respected by the fans. So well assess his value in'15 as a bright spot and Brian the Brain trades him. I'd say the same for Greene, short stay but I liked that kid , felt he needed more practice throwing to first. Again Brian the Brain in action. Cashman better hope Di Di works out. Ah shit don't worry, the Yankees have Drew in there.
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Almost forgot about Greene, yeah he's another one I'll keep my eye on.
 
What worries me about this team is that the future is going to rely on the current group of prospects. Guys like Judge who you hope are the real deal. Otherwise they will end up purchasing more big names. From what I hear Sanchez's stock keeps falling because he's being deemed an attitude problem.
 
He did tail off last year but still wasn't "bad" vs RHP.
.250 BA, 314 OBP, .435 slg%, .749 ops
Rick2583 said:
What was the purpose of this?^^^^^^^^^^^
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What was the purpose of what?
An article which says Jones could be an underrated pick-up in the Prado,Phelps for Eovoldi,Jones and German trade?
He's probably going to primarily be the LH DH in some kind of platoon/rotation and probably will only see action at 1b on days when Tex needs a day off or is injured.
Jones did tail off last year but still wasn't "bad" vs RHP.
.250 BA, 314 OBP, .435 slg%, .749 ops......and guess what? That was better than the totals put up last year by Yankee DHs.

.245 ba, .307 obp, .380 slg%, .687 ops.
 
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Don't play stupid, you repeated Ron's #4 post several times which made no sense to me. You've since deleted it.
 
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He's going to be a bench guy. As a left handed bat in a bam box of a right field perhaps he can add a little offense. That being said see Lyle Overbay.
 
Messiah717 said:
He's going to be a bench guy. As a left handed bat in a bam box of a right field perhaps he can add a little offense. That being said see Lyle Overbay.
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...I was gonna say a LHed Mark Reynolds.
 
All and all though since the bench sucks balls I do hope he brings something. Especially since Chris Young is striking out against the pitching machine
 
Messiah717 said:
What worries me about this team is that the future is going to rely on the current group of prospects. Guys like Judge who you hope are the real deal. Otherwise they will end up purchasing more big names. From what I hear Sanchez's stock keeps falling because he's being deemed an attitude problem.
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...I just wished the Steins/Cashman would make up their minds on which direction they wanna go...If they wanna save money and/or go with a youth movement, why sign guys like Headley and Drew and Capuano ?
 
Rick2583 said:
Don't play stupid, you repeated Ron's #4 post several times which made no sense to me. You've since deleted it.
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Honest mistake and I addressed it in my response to your post about Jones not doing so well lately......and furthermore, to also address that post, I think it might also be safe to say Jones should/could benefit from playing his home games as a hitter with some power playing in a friendly LH hitters park. Don't tell me I'm playing stupid....I'm the one who has been saying the Yankee offense should be considerably better in 2015 and Jones will probably be just another "little" reason why (DH) along with some other reasons.....I didn't forget the Jones acquisition, maybe you did.....I'm not saying he's going to be another Reggie Jackson, but I think he'll help out.

I'll address all replies including if the Yanks win 80-84 games unlike the number I picked...and you can include Arod if he is washed up. And I think you already know I think he could provide production as the RH part of some DH platoon.

Are you sure you READ my posts? I read YOURS.
 
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blgridesagain said:
Honest mistake and I addressed it in my response to your post about Jones not doing so well lately......and furthermore, to also address that post, I think it might also be safe to say Jones should/could benefit from playing his home games as a hitter with some power playing in a friendly LH hitters park. Don't tell me I'm playing stupid....I'm the one who has been saying the Yankee offense should be considerably better in 2015 and Jones will probably be just another "little" reason why (DH) along with some other reasons.....I didn't forget the Jones acquisition, maybe you did.....I'm not saying he's going to be another Reggie Jackson, but I think he'll help out.

I'll address all replies including if the Yanks win 80-84 games unlike the number I picked...and you can include Arod if he is washed up. And I think you already know I think he could provide production as the RH part of some DH platoon.

Are sure you READ my posts? I read YOURS.
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What the hell is wrong with you? When I said "Don't play stupid" it was in response to your asking me in post #13 "What is the purpose of what?" when you knew perfectly well why I was asking.

And I see you've now once again injected your same repeated argument into this thread. Thin ice my friend, be careful.
 
And if we feel more curious:
Lyle Overbay last two seasons....combined,
18 HRs, .238 BA, .307 OBP, .371 slg%, .679 ops

(As Jones' last couple of years were brought up)
 
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Jones has more HRs than Overbay the last 2 years partially because he also had about 200 more ABs than Overbay...Jones and Overbay are of the same ilk. They're career mediocre 1Bmen who hit the occasional HR but also strike out too often and are below average defensively.
 
I don't see him staying with the Yankees beyond this year. The last 5 years he's been a full time player averaging almost 150 games & 500 at bats. (19 HRs & 67 RBI while hitting 250) Unless there's an injury he'll be lucky to get 300-350 at bats.
 
Rick2583 said:
I don't see him staying with the Yankees beyond this year. The last 5 years he's been a full time player averaging almost 150 games & 500 at bats. (19 HRs & 67 RBI while hitting 250) Unless there's an injury he'll be lucky to get 300-350 at bats.
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Agree. I think he's a free agent after this year.......its going to take some really good things from him and the Yanks for him be here after 2015.
 
...Among 9 qualifying 1Bmen in the NL last year, he was 8th.

...I can't believe the Yanx are paying this guy $5 Mil this year...wait, yes I can.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Among 9 qualifying 1Bmen in the NL last year, he was 8th.
...I can't believe the Yanx are paying this guy $5 Mil this year...wait, yes I can.
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I hear ya........I'll be kind to him and say he isn't going to be the second coming of Paul O'Neill or Tino Martinez. lol

However, although I DO expect Tex to have a better year than last year, he didn't even make the top 10 qualifying A.L. 1b.
Jones is going to be used (IMO) primarily as the LH part of a DH platoon and of course probably a few games at 1b. Beltran and a couple of others will fill most of the ABs vs LHP.

As for Jones' DH role, keep in mind he hits better vs RHP where he'll see most of his action.
Last year when he was facing more LHP than he will this year, he still managed to put up better numbers (with the exception of a couple HRs and TB) than the total accumulated numbers by Yankee DHs who ranked near the bottom in most categories....
12th-TB, 12th- BA, 12th- slg%,
12th-ops, 13th- RBI, 14th- OBP
Consistently BAD.

With Jones doing a lot of the LH part of the DH rotation along with Beltran and a couple
of others from the right side, I think the DH spot will be taken care of.
 
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Rick2583 said:
I may be in the minority but I still don't get giving up Prado, which IMO may come back to bite us in the ass.
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Agreed, I do believe by the end of April, Cash-box will regret trading Prado away. When I saw Prado join the Team last year, I thought: "there may just be hope after all".....

I too, think Headley is and will be a mediocre player, better with his glove, but nothing special with his Bat....

I've been wondering the same, what in the hell is Cash-box thinking, cuz what's comes gurgling out of his mouth, vs His actions, tend to be 2 different things. "Back to the basics of building a solid farm club," yet continuing to sign old worn out Mule in Cappy, (Bums nickname=Crappy); along with anemic Drew, and over paid Headley, or damn near anyone other than Alex will be an improvement.

I'll walk backwards from L.A. to NY, IF Drew can hit .290, cuz it's not gonna' happen.

Last- a offensive output of: (.241 .295 .435 .730) from Jones, IS an improvement over Tex's .216 B'avg, but really doesn't impress me at all. I don't get impressed to much over anyone who hits below .300, tho' I'll take a .290 hitter almost any day. In this case, why is anyone excited because Jones can best Tex's .216 mark. While a .241 B'Avg stinks of desperation....!!!
 
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