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We can only hope that what happened in Germany a while back won't ever happen again. But today when reading this article the thoughts have to go thru my mind.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080804/ap_on_re_as/china_attack

We know the terrorists are out there, and they would love to make some kind of impact on the Olympics. Now it appears they are crossing the boarders and from terrorists hotbeds and making their way thru china. I wonder why?? I don't care how good security is or how much army the china nationals have, this could be very dangerous for the athletes.
 
Nenad, Yi are both in the Olympics. That's no good.


OT: Found this a little funny. For Team USA: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Athletic Trainer: Keith Jones, Houston Rockets</div>
Great, grab the trainer from the most injury-prone team in the NBA
 
"glad no nets are on the olympic team"

yea, i totally think it would be better if other teams' players were hurt or died, better for the Nets!
 
forgot about Yi,


whats wrong with me? get a life..........here take my hand and i'll help you down off your high horse...
 
Man Id hate to be israeli or american right now in china that is. shit is going to kick off
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Aug 4 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>forgot about Yi,


whats wrong with me? get a life..........here take my hand and i'll help you down off your high horse...</div>
People are people. Nets players or not, you should still be worried for them.
 
and why do you care who i worry for? If there was no terrorist threat i'd still be concerned for nets players cause when you play year round you will have more injuries the next season. I do care though, Jason Kidd is still one of my favorites and and do hate to see anything happen to him, but last time i checked this is a nets forum.
 
You came off as if you would only be worried about Nets players. I'm pretty sure that's not the case, just use better word choice next time, okay?
 
Correlation does not equal causation.

This topic is all over the place, stop putting garbage on this forum.

You're mixing terrorism, sports and China with Nets and NBA players.

It's like me saying there's American Soldiers dying in Iraq and there's Americans in the Olympics. Be VERY AFRAID!

The Iranians just played FIBA basketball this week. We didn't mention Israel launching preemptive war.


Keep politics out of sports.
 
Human Rights Watch will be keeping a close eye on this, lol....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Aug 4 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and why do you care who i worry for? If there was no terrorist threat i'd still be concerned for nets players cause when you play year round you will have more injuries the next season. I do care though, Jason Kidd is still one of my favorites and and do hate to see anything happen to him, but last time i checked this is a nets forum.</div>


Not sure why everyone is getting on your case for what you said.... in regards to caring about the individual athletes. Its not uncommon for fans to be more worried about the health/well-being of their players over another team.

If anything, if I was a Nets fan, I'd be jumping all over you for not wanting to have a Nets player on the Olympics..... why wouldn't you want someone who is good enough to be on the Olympic team on the Nets?
 
cause when they did they usually had more injuried the following year. Jason Kidd and RJ come to mind. As far as this year the nets don't deserve any players being on the Olympic team, but if they did i'd be concerned cause when you play year round and don't give your body a small rest, injuries usually occur.
 
The legitimate national aspirations of the Uiyghur people should not be confused with terrorism. This was an attack on the Chinese military establishment and not civilians.

The Chinese state has used the threat of terrorism to round up Uiyghur nationalists.

And no one is coming to China. They live there.
 
People need to understand this incident occur on the western borders of China, thousands of miles from Beijing.
 
Don't worry.

The Chinese typically crack down pretty hard.

 
your right just because they border Afganastan and Paskastan (sp) its must be crazy to think they would cross an unprotected border. I'm sure Bin Laden wants nothing to do with the Olympics anyway, what was i thinking.... Its so far away they could never figure out a way to Beijing. Besides if they were to do something they are probably already there.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Aug 4 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>your right just because they border Afganastan and Paskastan (sp) its must be crazy to think they would cross an unprotected border. I'm sure Bin Laden wants nothing to do with the Olympics anyway, what was i thinking.... Its so far away they could never figure out a way to Beijing. Besides if they were to do something they are probably already there.</div>

Nobody is saying there is NO risk of an attack. Heck where in the world can you say is not at risk? Since 911, Madrid and London has both been bomb. So what makes you think NYC or LA isn't at risk of an attack? There is just so many people who want the Olympic games to fail for whatever reason, that anything negative happening in China is associated with the Olympics in an attempt to drag it down. It's pretty shameless really.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Aug 4 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The legitimate national aspirations of the Uiyghur people should not be confused with terrorism. This was an attack on the Chinese military establishment and not civilians.

The Chinese state has used the threat of terrorism to round up Uiyghur nationalists.

And no one is coming to China. They live there.</div>

Hey you broke the pattern in this thread and introduced logic and truth. How dare you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Aug 4 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Aug 4 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The legitimate national aspirations of the Uiyghur people should not be confused with terrorism. This was an attack on the Chinese military establishment and not civilians.

The Chinese state has used the threat of terrorism to round up Uiyghur nationalists.

And no one is coming to China. They live there.</div>

Hey you broke the pattern in this thread and introduced logic and truth. How dare you.
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I think someone has been watching a bit too much fox news.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Aug 4 2008, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Aug 4 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Aug 4 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The legitimate national aspirations of the Uiyghur people should not be confused with terrorism. This was an attack on the Chinese military establishment and not civilians.

The Chinese state has used the threat of terrorism to round up Uiyghur nationalists.

And no one is coming to China. They live there.</div>

Hey you broke the pattern in this thread and introduced logic and truth. How dare you.
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I think someone has been watching a bit too much fox news.
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Well i guess some of you didn't actually read the article: so i'll post it for you: with some comments

Attackers in western China kill 16 border officers

By CHARLES HUTZLER, Associated Press Writer Mon Aug 4, 9:43 AM ET

BEIJING - Two men rammed a truck into a group of jogging policemen and tossed explosives, killing 16 officers Monday in an attack in a restive province of western China just days before the Beijing Olympics, the state-run Xinhua News Agency reported.

Though it happened on the far side of the country — near the Afghan-Pakistan border — the attack came as security forces were on alert for the Games, which open Friday. It was among the deadliest and most brazen attacks in years in Xinjiang province, site of a sporadically violent rebellion by local Muslims against Chinese rule.

About 20 people upset at having been evicted from their homes staged a brief demonstration near Tiananmen Square, Beijing's heavily guarded political center. Uniformed police quickly surrounded the group until members of a neighborhood committee came and pulled the protesters away, scuffling with some.

In the Xinjiang attack, the two men drove a dump truck into the group of border patrol police officers as they passed the Yiquan Hotel during a routine 8 a.m. jog in the city of Kashgar, the Xinhua News Agency reported.

After the truck hit an electrical pole, the pair jumped out, ignited homemade explosives and "also hacked the policemen with knives," Xinhua said.

Fourteen died on the spot and two others en route to a hospital, and at least 16 officers were wounded, Xinhua said.

Police arrested the two attackers, one of whom was injured in the leg, the report said.

Authorities closed off streets, sealed the Nationalities Hospital down the street from the explosion, and ordered people to stay inside, said a man answering phones at the hospital duty office.

Local government officials declined comment Monday. An officer in the district police department said an investigation was launched.

Kashgar, or Kashi in Chinese, is a tourist city that was once an oasis trading center on the Silk Road caravan routes and lies 80 miles from the border with Pakistan, Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan. Its mountainous, remote environs have allegedly provided cover for terrorist training camps, one of which Chinese police raided early last year. interesting....

Chinese security forces have been on edge for months, citing a number of foiled plots by Muslim separatists and a series of bombings around China in the run-up to the Olympics. Last week, a senior military commander said radical Muslims who are fighting for what they call an independent East Turkistan in Xinjiang posed the single greatest threat to the games.
I wonder why??

A spokesman for Beijing's Olympic organizing committee said he did not have enough information to comment on the bombings. But he said security arrangements were being increased around the Olympic venues.
wonder why they are increasing it??

"We've made preparations for all possible threats," the spokesman, Sun Weide, told reporters. "We believe, with the support of the government, with the help of the international community, we have the confidence and the ability to host a safe and secure Olympic Games."

A Chinese counterterrorism expert, Li Wei of the China Institute for Contemporary International Relations in Beijing, said the attack was likely the work of local sympathizers, rather than trained terrorists who sneaked across the border into China.
i thought someone said they didn't sneak across the border, that they lived here??

Xinhua said that Xinjiang's police department earlier received intelligence reports about possible terrorist attacks between Aug. 1 and 8 by the East Turkistan Islamic Movement. The movement is the name of a group that China and the U.S. say is a terrorist organization, but Chinese authorities often use the label for a broad number of violent separatist groups. nothing to worry about here....

In Xinjiang, a local Turkic Muslim people, the Uighurs (WEE'-gurs), have chafed under Chinese rule, fully imposed after the communists took power nearly 60 years ago. Occasionally violent attacks in the 1990s brought an intense response from Beijing, which has stationed crack paramilitary units in the area and clamped down on unregistered mosques and religious schools that officials said were inciting militant action.

Uighurs have complained that the suppression has aggravated tensions in Xinjiang, making Uighurs feel even more threatened by an influx of Chinese and driving some to flee to Pakistan and other areas where they then have readier access to extremist ideologies.

One militant group, the Turkistan Islamic Party, pledged in a video that surfaced on the Internet last month to "target the most critical points related to the Olympics." The group is believed to be based across the border in Pakistan, with some of its core members having received training from al-Qaida and the Pakistani Taliban, according to terrorism experts. well that will never happen cuase i'm sure they won't be able to figure out how to cross china once there in, you know how stupid terrorists are???

Terrorism analysts and Chinese authorities, however, have said that with more than 100,000 soldiers and police guarding Beijing and other Olympic co-host cities, terrorists were more likely to attack less-protected areas. ok, well there must be nothing to worry about then,,, time to drink the cool aid, and reinsert our heads in the sand....

this isn't shameless, this is a real threat! and netincome there is alot more in this article than the group you mentioned.
 
I don't want to say too much about what NI does, but I'm fairly confident that he has a very good understanding of what is going on due to his professional life.
 
i'm sure he does, and i know what he does. But it is an area that is in a very hotbed of terrorism, and all the experts are saying different things in the article. Its just hard for me to totally discount what they say as well. But of course i'm being shameless.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Aug 5 2008, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure he does, and i know what he does. But it is an area that is in a very hotbed of terrorism, and all the experts are saying different things in the article. Its just hard for me to totally discount what they say as well. But of course i'm being shameless.</div>

It's a hotbed of political repression. And again, the attack was not on civilians but on the repressive machinery of the Han Chinese police state.

In 1982, the US State Department declared the African National Congress a terrorist group. How'd that work out?
 
One thing you can count on: any information being released from CHINA has undergone a broad series of dis-information first.

Just like in Tibetan attacks (more recently), its going to be hard to get the full, accurate picture. What we do know is this: there is political unrest in China. And we do know how China typically deals with it...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Aug 5 2008, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>One thing you can count on: any information being released from CHINA has undergone a broad series of dis-information first.

Just like in Tibetan attacks (more recently), its going to be hard to get the full, accurate picture. What we do know is this: there is political unrest in China. And we do know how China typically deals with it...</div>

No kidding dude. When you have western media cropping pictures like CNN did to distort stories, it's no wonder why most Americans can't even tell what's reality anymore. Fortunately major media outlet can no longer control the flow of information anymore so for those who want to hear both side of the stories the info is out there. All you've got to do is research it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Aug 5 2008, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure he does, and i know what he does. But it is an area that is in a very hotbed of terrorism, and all the experts are saying different things in the article. Its just hard for me to totally discount what they say as well. But of course i'm being shameless.</div>

Calm down dude. I am going to Beijing in a few days, so take stories like these very seriously. However all I am saying is that there is just a lot negative press about China at the moment. It seems like every reporter around the world is competing with each other to see who will take out the gold medal for writing the most anti-China and anti-Olympic story. Is that NOT shameless, when the athletes should be the focus of the world's attention. This is their time, but there are just a lot of people out there who wants to hijack Olympics for their own political agenda.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Aug 5 2008, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's a hotbed of political repression. And again, the attack was not on civilians but on the repressive machinery of the Han Chinese police state.

In 1982, the US State Department declared the African National Congress a terrorist group. How'd that work out?</div>

Yeah for sure. The US need to 'liberate' these people so they can live in peace and harmony just like in Iraq right?................................................oh wait. Never mind.
 
These Olympics was never going to be just about the athletes. When the IOC ignores major problems (both political and logistical) because they're so eager for advertising revenue and tapping into a huge growing market, they have to expect the inevitable backlash. Can't have it both ways.
 

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