Could you imagine if we got the All Star Snub?

[KeepOnRollin]

I don't know man. Roy made it his second year. Sometimes you are just that good

I would love to be wrong on this of course. I think he has a shot, that is for sure.

 

[STOMP]

Detroit had 4 All Stars that year

The Pistons were 40-8 going into the break and all 4 guys were selected by the coaches as reserves. The link below references Gilbert Arenas and Michael Redd as the two biggest snubs. Respectively they were putting up gaudy scoring stats on mediocre and bad teams, which always seems a dicey path to being selected by the coaches. Melo scored 29 per game on a mediocre Nuggets team and didn't make it either. The East was pretty weak back then too so maybe they got 4 in somewhat by default.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2325082

STOMP

 

[Nhawz]

All star voting is an absolute joke and needs to go. Badly.

 

[magnifier661]

Looks like we need to be 40-8 then. Then maybe Matthews and Batum can make it as well!

 

[oldmangrouch]

Snubs = chip on their shoulder.

Bingo. Best thing that could happen.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Being an all star is kind of a joke now. If Dame and LA make All-NBA teams I will be happy.

 

[MARIS61]

LAMARCUS, DAMIAN AND WES.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

It would actually be fucking hilarious if Stotts were coach of the West and the Blazers didn't have any players on the team. We would instantly become the biggest story of all star weekend.

Awkward.

All 12 players would be DNP.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

All 12 players would be DNP.

First forfeited All-Star game!

 

[SheedSoNasty]

ESPN's Daily Dime states that as of right now, a case could be made for Aldridge, Lillard AND Matthews representing us.

 

[Natebishop3]

Let's take a look at this.

Last year the West All-Stars were

(Starters)
Paul
Kobe
Blake Griffin
Howard
Durant

(Reserves)
Aldridge
Duncan
Harden
David Lee
Tony Parker
Randolph
Westbrook

So look at that list, the starters are going to be exactly the same (unless one is injured.)

Looking at the reserves, I don't think Randolph or Lee are locks at this point.

Aldridge
Duncan
Harden
Westbrook

These guys are all locks. I think you can include Love and Curry to that list. So we have:

Paul
Kobe
Durant
Griffin
Howard
Aldridge
Duncan
Harden
Westbrook
Love
Curry

That leaves one spot. One. Who gets it?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

First forfeited All-Star game!

The agents and shoe reps would never allow that to happen. The players would play.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Let's take a look at this.

Last year the West All-Stars were

(Starters)
Paul
Kobe
Blake Griffin
Howard
Durant

(Reserves)
Aldridge
Duncan
Harden
David Lee
Tony Parker
Randolph
Westbrook

So look at that list, the starters are going to be exactly the same (unless one is injured.)

Looking at the reserves, I don't think Randolph or Lee are locks at this point.

Aldridge
Duncan
Harden
Westbrook

These guys are all locks. I think you can include Love and Curry to that list. So we have:

Paul
Kobe
Durant
Griffin
Howard
Aldridge
Duncan
Harden
Westbrook
Love
Curry

That leaves one spot. One. Who gets it?

If we have the best record, it's gotta be Lillard.

 

[Darkwebs]

I don't know man. Roy made it his second year. Sometimes you are just that good

I think Roy made the All-Star game that year primarily because of our unexpected success. He was garnering quite a bit of All-star buzz during and after our 13-game win streak in December that season. We were expected to be one of the worst teams in the West that year, but we were several games above 500 and looked like we might make the playoffs, leading up to the All-Star game.

This year, we are exceeding all expectations once again. So I guess Lillard does have a shot, but with all the other bigger names and more established players, it'll be tough.

 

[maxiep]

We're winning as a team. If LA and Lillard make the team, great. If not, we'll keep on playing.

I don't care about the ASG; I care about the playoffs.

 

[Natebishop3]

We're winning as a team. If LA and Lillard make the team, great. If not, we'll keep on playing.

I don't care about the ASG; I care about the playoffs.

I agree Max. It's nice to see the guys get the nod because it validates their hard work, but I care much more about getting wins and getting deep into the playoffs.

 

[MickZagger]

I hope they both get snubbed. They'll be pissed off and it will give them time to rest up and get ready for the final stretch of the season. The AS game is stupid anyway.

 

[Natebishop3]

I hope they both get snubbed. They'll be pissed off and it will give them time to rest up and get ready for the final stretch of the season. The AS game is stupid anyway.

Even if Dame doesn't make the All-Star game, he'll be on the Rookie/Sophomore squad for sure, as well as one or more other events as well.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

It would actually be fucking hilarious if Stotts were coach of the West and the Blazers didn't have any players on the team. We would instantly become the biggest story of all star weekend.

Awkward.

I would actually love this scenario. Then we could go on a 40 game win streak and Aldridge could lock MVP, rings all around.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Lillard not making it would not be a snub. The west is loaded with PG's

 

[julius]

Lillard not making it would not be a snub. The west is loaded with PG's

agreed. He's not having a better season than Parker or Westbrook, so if they make it ahead of him it's not a slight. If a Rubio makes it ahead of him, it could be argued a slight or a snub.

But as awesome as the last two game winners have been, he's still shooting poor from 2 this year, and his defense (while improved) is still nothing spectacular. But than again, nor is Westbrooks or Hardens, and they're all but guaranteed AS spots.

At least Laker fans aren't voting in Steve Nash.

 

[magnifier661]

agreed. He's not having a better season than Parker or Westbrook, so if they make it ahead of him it's not a slight. If a Rubio makes it ahead of him, it could be argued a slight or a snub.

But as awesome as the last two game winners have been, he's still shooting poor from 2 this year, and his defense (while improved) is still nothing spectacular. But than again, nor is Westbrooks or Hardens, and they're all but guaranteed AS spots.

At least Laker fans aren't voting in Steve Nash.

Have you seen Lillard's numbers compared to Westbrook? Westbrook is just as poor from the field as Lillard. Lillard is outperforming Westbrook. Same goes with Parker.

 

[magnifier661]

Westbrook vs Lillard vs Parker

TS% - Lillard 56.6%, Westbrook 50.5%, Parker 55.7%

PER - Lillard 19.9, Westbrook 20.3, Parker 19.9

eFG% - 49.1%, Westbrook 45%, Parker 53%

WS - Lillard 3.7, Westbrook 1.7, Parker 2.3

OWS - Lillard 3.3, Westbrook 0.6, Parker 1.5

DWS - Lillard 0.4, Westbrook 1.2, Parker 0.8

PPG - Lillard 20.8, Westbrook 21.5, Parker 17.5

Assists - Lillard 6.3, Westbrook 6.7, Parker 6.1

Steals - Lillard 0.9, Westbrook 1.9, Parker 0.4

Best record - Killard 1, Westbrook 2, and Parker 3

So as long as Portland stays above SAS and OKC, it's a no brainer who the best PG is.

 

[julius]

Have you seen Lillard's numbers compared to Westbrook? Westbrook is just as poor from the field as Lillard. Lillard is outperforming Westbrook. Same goes with Parker.

Westbrook, though, has a history of shooting a decent % from the floor, and is coming off an injury. I'll give him a pass for a while on his (current) poor shooting %

 

[magnifier661]

Westbrook, though, has a history of shooting a decent % from the floor, and is coming off an injury. I'll give him a pass for a while on his (current) poor shooting %

Do you give Kobe a pass too?

It's not what a player is capable of. It's based on current production. Also, if Dame was getting Westbrook love, he would be getting to the line more often. That would increase his numbers as well

 

[julius]

Do you give Kobe a pass too?

Kobe has played something like 6 games. He's also shooting over 42%, and progressing nicely. If he continues averaging 13 points and shooting 43% by the time he's reached 20+ games, it might be comparable.

It's not what a player is capable of. It's based on current production. Also, if Dame was getting Westbrook love, he would be getting to the line more often. That would increase his numbers as well

that might be true, but you just said "current production", not "capable of".

 

[magnifier661]

Kobe has played something like 6 games. He's also shooting over 42%, and progressing nicely. If he continues averaging 13 points and shooting 43% by the time he's reached 20+ games, it might be comparable.



that might be true, but you just said "current production", not "capable of".

So you think Kobe is deserving?

 

[julius]

So you think Kobe is deserving?

right now, no. But whats that got to do with what we're talking about?

 

[magnifier661]

right now, no. But whats that got to do with what we're talking about?

Has everything to do what we are talking about. Killard has outperformed Parker and Westbrook. He also is on a team that has the best record in the league; which he has the highest win share than either players on getting there.

You gave Westbrook an excuse because of his injury, yet you won't use that same excuse for Kobe.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Has everything to do what we are talking about. Killard has outperformed Parker and Westbrook. He also is on a team that has the best record in the league; which he has the highest win share than either players on getting there.

Outside of eFG/TS% (both impacted by Lillard's high 3PA) and win shares, how exactly has Lillard outperformed Westbrook? Seems like Westbrook has more points, assists and steals, and a higher PER.