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McMillan just said that Blake would be starting. Anyone catch this? Pretty foolish if true.
 
He is trying to keep Blakes head from going straight up his ass. Pretty traditional position for a coach to take. The job is Blakes until someone takes it from him. Which they will....in training camp.
 
ucatchtrout said:
He is trying to keep Blakes head from going straight up his ass. Pretty traditional position for a coach to take. The job is Blakes until someone takes it from him. Which they will....in training camp.
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Nate actually said that he will be starting the season off with Blake as the starting PG, just like last season. Pretty stupid for him to even comment and elaborate on it. Miller is undoubtedly better.
 
Seconded. I'm starting to think KP and McMillan need to really stop drinking their own batch of :koolaid:

and take off the
:roseglasses:

in regards to their own players. Please don't throw out Sergio and Frye. I mean other then obvious end of the bench guys.
 
would it be that crazy for blake to start but miller see more minutes just like when batum was the "starting" small forward last season?
 
Nate's just showing some loyalty to the guy who held the job at the end of the season. There's nothing wrong with a heated competition in trading camp to show who fits best with which lineup -- I'm 99.9% that guy will be Miller -- but I'm down the the "nothing given, everything earned" approach.
 
rocketeer said:
would it be that crazy for blake to start but miller see more minutes just like when batum was the "starting" small forward last season?
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Sure. But considering how much of our early offense was centered on getting Aldridge going last season and the hope that Oden can be more than just a rebounding and defensive presence it seems pretty logical that you'd want Miller on the court the majority of the game.

In any case, Blake will be a fine 18-20 minute per night guy and depending on matchups he might even be a better option than Miller at times ... I can't think of when any of those times might actually be, but it could come up ... maybe ... I think? :dunno:
 
Mediocre Man said:
But Nate said just the opposite. He said Blake was the starter.
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Nate also said Nic is the starter back in June (a position I think he can hold) going into next year ... I guess we'll see what happens.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Most teams start their best 5, not their best friends
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and really, look through the playoff teams from last year. the lakers(odom), nuggets(jr smith), spurs(manu), blazers, mavs(terry), jazz(kirilenko), cavs(started ben wallace most of the season), heat(beasley), and sixers(started willie green over lou williams) all did not start their best 5. that is 9 of the 16 playoff teams.
 
Probably just a standard "Blake is our starter until someone beats him out for the position" comment.

If not...oy.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Sure. But considering how much of our early offense was centered on getting Aldridge going last season and the hope that Oden can be more than just a rebounding and defensive presence it seems pretty logical that you'd want Miller on the court the majority of the game.

In any case, Blake will be a fine 18-20 minute per night guy and depending on matchups he might even be a better option than Miller at times ... I can't think of when any of those times might actually be, but it could come up ... maybe ... I think? :dunno:
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batum started last season but he wasn't on the court the majority of the game. why couldn't that be the same with blake starting? "starting" doesn't mean anything other than he's playing the first several minutes of each half.
 
Miller will start. Nate knows this, I think he just has to stroke some egos right now.
 
rocketeer said:
would it be that crazy for blake to start but miller see more minutes just like when batum was the "starting" small forward last season?
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I agree with this. Blake fits better next to Roy than next to Rudy. Miller and Rudy should look great together. You start Blake and give him Batum minutes, the Miller comes in and plays more overall minutes.

The only think I don't like about this is I want to see Miller play with Oden and Batum as much as possible.
 
I didn't hear the interview, but my understanding from previous ones is that Nate's position is that the previous year's starters go into camp with their starting position intact. If somebody beats them out in camp, then the switch is made.
 
AmirIcon said:
Nate actually said that he will be starting the season off with Blake as the starting PG, just like last season. Pretty stupid for him to even comment and elaborate on it. Miller is undoubtedly better.
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Miller has never had a 50-win season. Ever.
 
The Blake/Miller comparison is awfully close in terms of overall value to this particular team, with Blake having the obvious edge simply from previous success.

I think Miller would have a hard time taking his starting spot, and I don't think it would benefit the team as run by Nate. Miller is a guy who feels the need to score regularly so he's a better fit with the bench who needs someone to direct them. He would quickly tire of Roy demanding the ball from him every trip even though he would see other players open for better shots, just as Sergio tired of it when he started.

Blake has done quite well in the limited role Nate allows his starter, and it's doubtful Miller would be a better bring-it-up-and-hand-it-to-Roy kind of PG. Nate has shown repeatedly that he will not adjust his offense in the slightest to take advantage of individual players talents.

Miller was apparently brought here for the sole purpose of turning Bayless into a PG, an absurdly impossible and extremely impractical task. I'll be surprised if he's still here after this season.
 
PapaG said:
Miller has never had a 50-win season. Ever.
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That just means he hasn't played on very talented teams. I don't think its even an argument he has proven himself in this league more than Blake.
 
Reep said:
I agree with this. Blake fits better next to Roy than next to Rudy. Miller and Rudy should look great together. You start Blake and give him Batum minutes, the Miller comes in and plays more overall minutes.

The only think I don't like about this is I want to see Miller play with Oden and Batum as much as possible.
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I agree with you and Rocketeer, Nate said that starting is over rated. And he is right. I never understand why so many of you get so fucking hung up on it. As I stated this morning I thought this was the best scenario but I doubted he would do it. I want to see Miller with the starters AND the second team. (so they can run) Putting Miller in halfway through the 1st and keeping him in until 5 minutes left in the 2nd lets him play with everyone.
It is that simple. Who ever plays best finishes the game. And as Nate said that may not be either one of them.
Thank god the players understand that winning is the only thing that matters. No conspiracy here folks.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I agree with you and Rocketeer, Nate said that starting is over rated. And he is right. I never understand why so many of you get so fucking hung up on it. As I stated this morning I thought this was the best scenario but I doubted he would do it. I want to see Miller with the starters AND the second team. (so they can run) Putting Miller in halfway through the 1st and keeping him in until 5 minutes left in the 2nd lets him play with everyone.
It is that simple. Who ever plays best finishes the game. And as Nate said that may not be either one of them.
Thank god the players understand that winning is the only thing that matters. No conspiracy here folks.
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I would rep you, but it says I must spread it around first. That is pretty much what Nate said. He thinks Miller will be great with Rudy and the second team being a more running team.
 
Nate can sit here and tell you tonight who the starting 5 is next year and all but guarantee it. None the less, there is a lot of time and a lot can happen in the next 3 months. If Miller comes into camp and wins the job hands down, what is Nate going to say? "Well, I'd like to start 'Dre but I made a commitment back on July to go with Blake . . . "

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT NATE SAYS ABOUT LINE-UPS ON JULY 27TH. NOBODY WILL CARE OR REMEMBER IT IN NOVEMBER.
 
Kaydow said:
Nate can sit here and tell you tonight who the starting 5 is next year and all but guarantee it. None the less, there is a lot of time and a lot can happen in the next 3 months. If Miller comes into camp and wins the job hands down, what is Nate going to say? "Well, I'd like to start 'Dre but I made a commitment back on July to go with Blake . . . "

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT NATE SAYS ABOUT LINE-UPS ON JULY 27TH. NOBODY WILL CARE OR REMEMBER IT IN NOVEMBER.
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Nate can easily say that he simply likes Miller with the second unit.
 
MARIS61 said:
The Blake/Miller comparison is awfully close in terms of overall value to this particular team, with Blake having the obvious edge simply from previous success.

I think Miller would have a hard time taking his starting spot, and I don't think it would benefit the team as run by Nate. Miller is a guy who feels the need to score regularly so he's a better fit with the bench who needs someone to direct them. He would quickly tire of Roy demanding the ball from him every trip even though he would see other players open for better shots, just as Sergio tired of it when he started.

Blake has done quite well in the limited role Nate allows his starter, and it's doubtful Miller would be a better bring-it-up-and-hand-it-to-Roy kind of PG. Nate has shown repeatedly that he will not adjust his offense in the slightest to take advantage of individual players talents.

Miller was apparently brought here for the sole purpose of turning Bayless into a PG, an absurdly impossible and extremely impractical task. I'll be surprised if he's still here after this season.
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Is this schtick really that much fun for you?
 
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