Crabbe gone to Brooklyn?

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We can't have a bench player making $17.5M a year. The cap is going up but it's not skyrocketing like this, if you're paying all your rotation players $17.5M a year you must have $200M cap, $94M isn't close.
 
maxiep said:
What kind of dumbass comment is that?

Is this bad news that Brooklyn wants to overpay Crabbe? Is the market crazy? Absofuckinglutely. Is Turner a better player than Crabbe? Without question. The one thing he doesn't do is shoot as well. Okay, we have plenty of shooting.

People can think independently and arrive at a different conclusion than you. In fact, it's you who needs your fruit rollup and Capri Sun.
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I love you man!
 
maxiep said:
Of course, you're correct. None of us have ever seen Evan Turner play. What would we ever do without your genius insight to guide us?
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I've seen him play. He hit a game winner against us.
 
I am starting to hate this new TV money. With the amount of money it takes to compete with offers from other teams it is going to be impossible to keep guys who are going for their second contracts (think CJ) without going into the luxury tax area. Also, teams used to be able to add a significant rotation player with the MLE. That isn't happening again. It is still at 5 or 6 million a year. That is good for a borderline rotation player now if that.
 
dviss1 said:
I personally don't think Crabbe is better. There's lots that Turner can do that Crabbe can't.
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It's true. It's debatable. I stated he's better - that was definitive and it really shouldn't have been stated that way. He is and he isn't. There's nothing significant that separates them, though. I'd rather invest in the younger known than the older unknown, though. I was a big Turner fan when he came out of college, and even a couple years after when we were rumored to maybe be interested. But he's been a disappointment, thus far.
 
theprunetang said:
I am starting to hate this new TV money. With the amount of money it takes to compete with offers from other teams is going to be impossible to keep guys gong for their second contracts (think CJ) without going into the luxury tax area. Also, teams used to be able to add a significant rotation player with the MLE. That isn't happening again. It is still at 5 or 6 million a year. That is good for a borderline rotation player now.
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Let me out it this way.... I'm glad the players are getting theirs rather than just the owners. I'm glad baseball and basketball players get a significant slice of ALL the entertainment dollars they produce. They have the skills. They work their butts off. They deserve it. Now I still believe that labour is also represented by the amount of people who fail as well,. But these players perform rare skills that few other can. It sickens me to see the NFLPA literally gives away the players bargaining rights of 13 billion dollar pie because this nation would lose its mind without a year of football.
 
theprunetang said:
I am starting to hate this new TV money. With the amount of money it takes to compete with offers from other teams it is going to be impossible to keep guys who are going for their second contracts (think CJ) without going into the luxury tax area. Also, teams used to be able to add a significant rotation player with the MLE. That isn't happening again. It is still at 5 or 6 million a year. That is good for a borderline rotation player now if that.
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The new normal will take hold and in a few years I doubt we'll even remember what an old contract looked like. Until then these new contracts are going to create real disparities where talent and money aren't exactly lined up the way they should be (Like Steph Curry making 12 million next year and Pau Gasol (likely) making 50% more than that)
 
The only way I'd keep him at this price would be if we were promised by 76ers to get Noel/Okafor for him later on in S&T. Makes no sense to have a back up player at $17M a year.
 
Two guys I hope Portland keep is Crabbe and Harkless. I want the team to improve but I hope they can without renouncing these two. Crabbe is absolutely smooth. And his shooting is becoming more and more consistent and more importantly reliable. Which is what teams like New Jersey are seeing and have become interested.

But one of the strengths of Portland last year was the drove of wings they had. More specifically wings above 6'4" that could could score and play D. They have a lot them. Evan I think can only help although pricey. I just hope they can stay strong in this area and stay deep at 2,3 and 4. This was key in their advancement.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I don't think is unfair to compare him to Iggy, seeing as they are both point forward types who defend. Let's not forget Turner played with Iggy too. They're very similar.
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What? shiiit mang, that was yesterday! Today Turner is already better than Iguodala. What are we feeding this guy? he just keeps getting better and better.
 
Sarni said:
The only way I'd keep him at this price would be if we were promised by 76ers to get Noel/Okafor for him later on in S&T. Makes no sense to have a back up player at $17M a year.
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Is he just a "back up player", or is he our third best scorer? If given 32 mpg (not necessarily unreasonable) as a 2nd scoring option, could he put up 17 ppg, with solid defense? If so, is that not worth $17M out of a $100M salary, even if he starts the game on the bench?
 
My take is that Turner does everything better than Crabbe except shoot 3 pointers. Shooting 3 pointers IS a big deal, and Crabbe is a versatile player and one of our better defenders. That said, I don't think the two are competing for the same minutes. I'm sure they'll be on the floor at the same time a lot.
 
Denny Crane said:
My take is that Turner does everything better than Crabbe except shoot 3 pointers. Shooting 3 pointers IS a big deal, and Crabbe is a versatile player and one of our better defenders. That said, I don't think the two are competing for the same minutes. I'm sure they'll be on the floor at the same time a lot.
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I also wonder if we can sign Crabbe to a decent deal then perhaps at some point in the next 3-6 months we could include him in a package to Philly for Noel or Okafor, therefore keeping CJ
 
Blazinaway said:
I also wonder if we can sign Crabbe to a decent deal then perhaps at some point in the next 3-6 months we could include him in a package to Philly for Noel or Okafor, therefore keeping CJ
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I don't think he's enough to get one of those guys.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Is he just a "back up player", or is he our third best scorer? If given 32 mpg (not necessarily unreasonable) as a 2nd scoring option, could he put up 17 ppg, with solid defense? If so, is that not worth $17M out of a $100M salary, even if he starts the game on the bench?
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As long as Stotts gives Lillard too many minutes, we will never know.

(I know. Lillard and Crabbe don't play the same position. But McCollum's minutes are added at one and subtracted at the other position.)
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Is he just a "back up player", or is he our third best scorer? If given 32 mpg (not necessarily unreasonable) as a 2nd scoring option, could he put up 17 ppg, with solid defense? If so, is that not worth $17M out of a $100M salary, even if he starts the game on the bench?
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He has not proved reliable enough to be considered our third best scorer. Is the potential there, perhaps. But at this stage no.
 
I like AC, but he does very little outside of shooting and scoring. He might become a consistent 15-18 ppg scorer eventually, but he needs that shot created for him as his handle is suspect. 77% of his 2pt makes last season were assisted. 96% of his 3pt makes were assisted. His defense has improved but he still fouls too much and reaches when he shouldn't. He's not a true 3 and D guy. And his versatility is also overstated-- he's a SG, with prototypical SG size, but not the strength or length to switch onto bigger SFs like Kawhi, Lebron, KD, etc. And he lacks the quickness to guard PGs. If you recall, we didn't put Crabbe on CP in the playoffs -- we put Hark on him.

I would hate to lose an asset for nothing in return given how much we desperately need talent, but if there are better C options that open up in a S&T, we shouldn't hesitate to move on.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
All im saying is the grass isnt always greener. And lots of people around here have said themselves they dont watch anyone other than the blazers.
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The blazers don't play themselves...so there's that
 
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