Crazy trade ideas

[BonesJones]

Here's one. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycex847q

Why the hell would Boston do that? Brown is possible just as good as CJ, is younger, and has more potential. And then they give up their starting C who's been killin it? Why would they do that when they're the best team in the league? Smh...

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Retarded
Retarded
Less Retarded but still retarded

Why the fuck we we give away our entire future for Marc Gasol? WTF...? Nurk, Collins, and a 1st? So that we can still lose in the 1st round?

Trade CJ for a possible bust in Fultz who will hopefully be as good as CJ and a ~20th pick or Saric?

Simmons is a dumbass and his trade ideas are stupid.

Respectfully, you should probably stop using the R word.

 

[Sarni]

I would do CJ for Fultz, Saric and a pick in a heartbeat.

I'd probably even do CJ for Saric, 76ers unprotected 2018 first round pick and Lakers/Kings pick too - the Lakers pick will convey this year and will probably come around 10-12. Sixers pick should come around 20, and our own will probably come around 8-10 if we sell CJ too.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but we should have got Donovan Mitchell. Such a perfect player for us.

 

[Scalma]

I would do CJ for Fultz, Saric and a pick in a heartbeat.

I'd probably even do CJ for Saric, 76ers unprotected 2018 first round pick and Lakers/Kings pick too - the Lakers pick will convey this year and will probably come around 10-12. Sixers pick should come around 20, and our own will probably come around 8-10 if we sell CJ too.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but we should have got Donovan Mitchell. Such a perfect player for us.

So is Collins if he develops properly. And I’d argue that a two way big is more valuable than a guard.

The one that really hurts is Swanigan over Kuzma.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I would do CJ for Fultz, Saric and a pick in a heartbeat.

I'd probably even do CJ for Saric, 76ers unprotected 2018 first round pick and Lakers/Kings pick too - the Lakers pick will convey this year and will probably come around 10-12. Sixers pick should come around 20, and our own will probably come around 8-10 if we sell CJ too.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but we should have got Donovan Mitchell. Such a perfect player for us.

Saric, JJ Reddick and a pick for CJ.

 

[Labinot41]

I would do CJ for Fultz, Saric and a pick in a heartbeat.

I'd probably even do CJ for Saric, 76ers unprotected 2018 first round pick and Lakers/Kings pick too - the Lakers pick will convey this year and will probably come around 10-12. Sixers pick should come around 20, and our own will probably come around 8-10 if we sell CJ too.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but we should have got Donovan Mitchell. Such a perfect player for us.

Then we can also trade Dame

 

[BigGameDamian]

Saric, JJ Reddick and a pick for CJ.

Throw in Ed Davis if it works.

 

[dviss1]

If he has a 75% chance of being healthy for the playoffs I'd take that over Harkless.

History has shown he won't be healthy. It's also the position we don't need to upgrade.

 

[Sarni]

Saric, JJ Reddick and a pick for CJ.

I don't really want Redick, he would make salaries match but has a one year deal and if we trade CJ the intention isn't to win now.

 

[Sarni]

Then we can also trade Dame

Because he won't be able to stomach the fact that we traded CJ? Because in terms of being able to compete it doesn't necessarily make us worse.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I don't really want Redick, he would make salaries match but has a one year deal and if we trade CJ the intention isn't to win now.

What's wrong with JJ Reddick? He also has an expiring contract.

 

[BonesJones]

Because he won't be able to stomach the fact that we traded CJ? Because in terms of being able to compete it doesn't necessarily make us worse.

I wonder if Dame would trade CJ to his hometown state Cavaliers for the BKN pick if it meant CJ would win a ring with LeBron and we'd win a ring in 5 years with a great, young core (Bagley+Porter+Reddish?)

 

[BonesJones]

Only way I trade CJ to PHI is if we get the LAL/SAC pick.

 

[BBert]

Saric, JJ Reddick and a pick for CJ.

Ugh

 

[BonesJones]

Lets say Charlotte isn't in playoff position at the trade deadline:

How much extra would it take for us to trade Turner for Batum? How much extra would you give up? A pick?

Batum is a better passing, 3pt version of Turner to me. He knows the system, and he's making slightly more for the same amount of time. Same age. Would fit and immediately become our starting 3 again and would work well with Nurkic on pick n' rolls.

 

[Labinot41]

Lets say Charlotte isn't in playoff position at the trade deadline:

How much extra would it take for us to trade Turner for Batum? How much extra would you give up? A pick?

Batum is a better passing, 3pt version of Turner to me. He knows the system, and he's making slightly more for the same amount of time. Same age. Would fit and immediately become our starting 3 again and would work well with Nurkic on pick n' rolls.

At this Moment i wouldn't trade our 1st round pick. We Don't know how the direction of this team is. If we contuine to suck, and I am afraid we suck because the Schedule get's tougher, we could end up in the Lottery. So my oppinion, if we can not make a good run until the trade Deadline, no trading the 1st rounder!

 

[Labinot41]

But if the pick is Lottery protected then yes trade evan turnover + X for batum

 

[Sarni]

What's wrong with JJ Reddick? He also has an expiring contract.

Exactly that, he has an expiring contract and would only help us this season only. I don't want us to be helped this season if we trade CJ, I want us to get a nice pick so we can get a nice player and build the future IF we decide to trade CJ.

 

[Sarni]

Only way I trade CJ to PHI is if we get the LAL/SAC pick.

They will convey LAL pick this year unless Lakers for some reason get drawn in the top 3. This likely be no. 8 to no. 10.

Additionally, Philadelphia's own pick will be around 14 to 20 too. 20 is absolute worst case scenario and almost unthinkable IMO. If we give CJ away, our pick will be lottery too.

Let's say we get no. 8 (Lakers pick), no. 12 (our pick) and no. 16 (Philadelphia's pick after they scrap through the playoffs). That gets you one of Knox/Bridges, could be enough to get you Robert Williams and another nice young player. Obviously with drafted players it's hard to tell what they will become. I think you could also package two of those picks and get someone like Ayton, Porter or Doncic (Bagley will be off the table unless we are top 3 IMO).

Also, if you get three lottery picks, your odds of hitting top 3 can be quite good.

And you still have Saric who is a very nice talent, you get to keep Nurkic and by the time Leonard, Harkless and Turners contracts expire you will have all the new players well developed (along with Collins and Swanigan).

Lillard/new SG/Saric/Vonleh/Nurkic would even be a decent lineup next season and if we could package picks so that we end up with Doncic/Ayton and Knox/Bridges it would be great for our future (Collins will IMO also turn into a special player).

Not sure if Phila would want anything to do with that though. Redick is a great shooter and they will want to keep cap space for Summer to go after LeBron or George.

 

[illmatic99]

This roster is a collection of misfits. There was very little thought into building an actual roster, moreso than just acquiring talent.

There are guys sitting on the bench who can contribute 25-30 mpg but don't play because they don't fit with the other players on the roster. Guys like Shabazz, Noah, Collins, hell even ET would flourish on a team which needed their skillset/positional fit. It's time for Neil to actually build the team rather than spew his drivel about "talent acquisition methods." It's not the coach's fault when he has 2 PGs, 18 PFs, and 4 Cs, with one playable wing.

We're a middling team and wasting Dame's prime. On a roster that actually complemented him, he's a top 10 player, but he doesn't get recognized as such. It's my contention that he's a foundational piece. Get him a roster he can actually compete with -- the guy is busting his ass every night with very little to show for it. I've been anti-trading CJ for a bit, but it's painfully obvious that he's our best trade chip. Don't be scared, Neil-- any initial backlash will go away when we start winning 50 games consistently.

 

[Labinot41]

They will convey LAL pick this year unless Lakers for some reason get drawn in the top 3. This likely be no. 8 to no. 10.

Additionally, Philadelphia's own pick will be around 14 to 20 too. 20 is absolute worst case scenario and almost unthinkable IMO. If we give CJ away, our pick will be lottery too.

Let's say we get no. 8 (Lakers pick), no. 12 (our pick) and no. 16 (Philadelphia's pick after they scrap through the playoffs). That gets you one of Knox/Bridges, could be enough to get you Robert Williams and another nice young player. Obviously with drafted players it's hard to tell what they will become. I think you could also package two of those picks and get someone like Ayton, Porter or Doncic (Bagley will be off the table unless we are top 3 IMO).

Also, if you get three lottery picks, your odds of hitting top 3 can be quite good.

And you still have Saric who is a very nice talent, you get to keep Nurkic and by the time Leonard, Harkless and Turners contracts expire you will have all the new players well developed (along with Collins and Swanigan).

Lillard/new SG/Saric/Vonleh/Nurkic would even be a decent lineup next season and if we could package picks so that we end up with Doncic/Ayton and Knox/Bridges it would be great for our future (Collins will IMO also turn into a special player).

Not sure if Phila would want anything to do with that though. Redick is a great shooter and they will want to keep cap space for Summer to go after LeBron or George.

Blazers would have to take jerryd baylless contract too

 

[Sarni]

Blazers would have to take jerryd baylless contract too

I'm comfortable with that. He'd be another weak player on the bench we are waiting on to have his contract expired.

Philadelphia are not taking CJ from us though. Truth be told, as good as CJ is, if we put him on the market I really don't see that many takers. He'd be perfect for Pelicans but they wouldn't offer Boogie or Davis for him. Looking at all remaining teams, nobody has a reason to trade for him, honestly, and those who have don't have the pieces.

 

[illmatic99]

CJ + Collins for Middleton + Jabari .

Who says no?

 

[Sarni]

CJ + Collins for Middleton + Jabari .

Who says no?

Bucks.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Exactly that, he has an expiring contract and would only help us this season only. I don't want us to be helped this season if we trade CJ, I want us to get a nice pick so we can get a nice player and build the future IF we decide to trade CJ.

So Dario Saric isn't a nice player for the future and why are we always so afraid of players not resigning? That's one of the reasons we won't see another championship. We're always afraid.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Bucks.

No I'm afraid Parker will leave after the season. Don't take any chances!

 

[Sarni]

So Dario Saric isn't a nice player for the future and why are we always so afraid of players not resigning? That's one of the reasons we won't see another championship. We're always afraid.

Saric is a nice player for the future, that's why I want him. I don't want Redick because he doesn't fit the bill. I very much doubt Phila would be open to letting him go anyway.

 

[Labinot41]

CJ + Collins for Middleton + Jabari .

Who says no?

I say no. Middleton is inconstant and jabari has to many injuries so far. And right now, Zach Collins is untouchable for me. He has a ton of potencial

 

[e_blazer]

December 15th is Friday. First day players signed to contracts last summer can be traded. Should start the trade season off.

 

[BonesJones]

They will convey LAL pick this year unless Lakers for some reason get drawn in the top 3. This likely be no. 8 to no. 10.

Additionally, Philadelphia's own pick will be around 14 to 20 too. 20 is absolute worst case scenario and almost unthinkable IMO. If we give CJ away, our pick will be lottery too.

Let's say we get no. 8 (Lakers pick), no. 12 (our pick) and no. 16 (Philadelphia's pick after they scrap through the playoffs). That gets you one of Knox/Bridges, could be enough to get you Robert Williams and another nice young player. Obviously with drafted players it's hard to tell what they will become. I think you could also package two of those picks and get someone like Ayton, Porter or Doncic (Bagley will be off the table unless we are top 3 IMO).

Also, if you get three lottery picks, your odds of hitting top 3 can be quite good.

And you still have Saric who is a very nice talent, you get to keep Nurkic and by the time Leonard, Harkless and Turners contracts expire you will have all the new players well developed (along with Collins and Swanigan).

Lillard/new SG/Saric/Vonleh/Nurkic would even be a decent lineup next season and if we could package picks so that we end up with Doncic/Ayton and Knox/Bridges it would be great for our future (Collins will IMO also turn into a special player).

Not sure if Phila would want anything to do with that though. Redick is a great shooter and they will want to keep cap space for Summer to go after LeBron or George.

You're wrong on the pick protections. PHI gets it if it's 1 or 6 or lower. BOS Gets it if it's 2-5.
I still think CLE is the better option. They could use another scoring threat.

I do like your logic. I would try to trade Davis and Aminu for 1-2 firsts after the CLE trade to try to accumulate picks to trade up. Ayton could possibly play the 4 as he's skilled and seems mobile. An Ayton, Nurkic, Collins, and Vonleh frontcourt would be nice.

Potter could fall to 5 with his injury issue. The only player other than Bamba, Ayton, Bagleu, Porter, or Doncic that could be top 5 is Sexton. He'd be a fun guard to have off the bench, and he's 6'3 so he might be able to play some SG and make up for his lack of size at the position with his insane intensity. Portland would love him. And then there's Jaren Jackson at 7. Any of those guys would be nice to have.