Cronin - GM of the Year? Discuss

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DaLincolnJones said:
You know what they say about opinions and ass holes. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

To say that Joe in GM of the year material, is like saying that a TV dinner is the best thing you have ever eaten. Just because it is hot and fills an immediate need, does not make it so.
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Oh, FFS. I was just making a f***ing joke.

Lighten up, people.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
You know what they say about opinions and ass holes. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

To say that Joe in GM of the year material, is like saying that a TV dinner is the best thing you have ever eaten. Just because it is hot and fills an immediate need, does not make it so.
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We’ll no more after couple years just how well we’ve done in not building around Dame.
 
When Joe took over the team:
Damian Lillard
CJ McCollum
Norman Powell
Robert Covington
Nurk
Anfernee Simons
Larry Nance Jr
Ben McLemore
CJ Elleby
Greg Brown III
Nassir Little
Cody Zeller
Tony Snell
Trendon Watford
Keljin mother fucking Blevins
Dennis Smith Jr
No picks in the coffer /owed pick to Chicago

The team now:
Scoot Henderson
Anfernee Simons
Shaedon Sharpe
Jerami Grant
Deandre Ayton
Robert Williams
Malcolm Brogdon
Matisse Thybulle
Jabari Walker
Kevin Knox
Kris Murray
Toumani Camara
Rayan Rupert
Moses Brown
2024 GSW pick
2029 Milwaukee pick
2029 Celtics pick
Still owe Chicago a pick
2024 Hawks 2nd
2024 Hornets 2nd
2025 Hawks 2nd (protected)
2026 Memphis 2nd (protected)
2028 GSW 2nd
 
illmatic99 said:
Please don't make me relitigate.

My opinions on our moves have been posted ad nauseum in this forum over the past two years when we prioritized $ over wins. And when we knowingly made our rosters worse.

Hell, you complained about them at the time. Just kinda funny to see the change in tune.
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I think the Clippers trade was bad, but I also suspect that he didn't have much choice.

I thought the CJ trade was very mediocre... but it was clearly made so that we could turn around and acquire Grant that summer, who absolutely has more value right now than CJ.

I hated the Payton signing but I respect the fact that he recognized his mistake and dumped him quickly.

Those were the moves that I wasn't happy with at the time.
 
maxiep said:
Oh, FFS. I was just making a f***ing joke.

Lighten up, people.
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Maxi, after all of the years of you being here, not being here and once again being here, I knew you were joshing. That is why I was comfortable responding in kind
 
he's done a great job considering the cards he was dealt. But I can't believe the EOY would go to the GM of a lottery team and I have a real hard time seeing Portland in the playoffs, or even the play-in. Some other GM will do good work and elevate a team for a playoff run
 
wizenheimer said:
he's done a great job considering the cards he was dealt. But I can't believe the EOY would go to the GM of a lottery team and I have a real hard time seeing Portland in the playoffs, or even the play-in. Some other GM will do good work and elevate a team for a playoff run
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Couple thoughts.

First, I imagine all the other execs around the league saw the situation that we were in and the way Joe was able to still extract really good value. That HAD to impress them. The media is definitely singing his praises. I have listened to a ton of national podcasts and not a single member of the media has had anything bad to say about what Joe pulled off. Most are impressed.

Second, with all the reports of small market GMs calling Joe and pressuring him not to cave to Dame, I think those GMs will feel particularly obligated to vote for him. But it might also go to the GM of the Bucks or the GM of the Celtics. Hard to say.
 
wizenheimer said:
I have a real hard time seeing Portland in the playoffs, or even the play-in. Some other GM will do good work and elevate a team for a playoff run
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All depends on how game ready Scoot is and/or if Sharpe arrives.
 
While I think Joe may deserve it with the hand he was dealt and making the most of the situation. The payout for Portland is mostly in the future, whereas the teams Joe just traded with all have a chance to prove their moves bring a championship this year. The GM of the year will come from Milwaukee's, Boston's or Phoenix's, whomever has the best season as a result of their multiple moves.
 
HailBlazers said:
All depends on how game ready Scoot is and/or if Sharpe arrives.
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I'm assuming they'll be game ready. But I'd think their impact will be pretty mixed

sure, the Blazers could be in the hunt for a play-in spot if a lot of factors break in their favor, and break that way all season. But for young teams, perfect storms almost always end up blowing toward the rocks rather than fantasy island
 
It's too early to discuss EOY for Cronin. But at some point in the next couple seasons this team will pop and he'll be in consideration.

I've liked pretty much every move he's made so far, and as far as I'm concerned he handled the whole Dame situation perfectly.

People keep bringing up the Clippers deal but those guys weren't worth a better return than that. They are okay players who are overpaid for too long. Nobody we could have traded them for was going to help us compete for titles or rebuild. Keeping them was hurting both goals.

Cronin has been dealt a shitty hand the entire time and has completely flipped the script on this team from a negative to exceedingly positive.

Absolutely incredible job Joe.
 
FlyinSouth said:
While I think Joe may deserve it with the hand he was dealt and making the most of the situation. The payout for Portland is mostly in the future, whereas the teams Joe just traded with all have a chance to prove their moves bring a championship this year. The GM of the year will come from Milwaukee's, Boston's or Phoenix's, whomever has the best season as a result of their multiple moves.
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But Joe should get credit for helping build those teams also! By my count he could be EOTY representing trades for four teams.
 
I think Cronin has some competition for GM of the year with whoever the Bucks GM is.

Giannis, 2x MVP, 7x All-Star, 7x All-NBA, DPOY
Lillard, 7x All-Star, 7x All-NBA
Middleton, 3x All-Star
B.Lopez, 2013 All-Star, 1st team All-Defense
Portis, Team USA, 6th man candidate
Blazer legend Pat Connaughton

reserves:
better then the Blazers bench.
 
Whyachi said:
I think Cronin has some competition for GM of the year with whoever the Bucks GM is.

Giannis, 2x MVP, 7x All-Star, 7x All-NBA, DPOY
Lillard, 7x All-Star, 7x All-NBA
Middleton, 3x All-Star
B.Lopez, 2013 All-Star, 1st team All-Defense
Portis, Team USA, 6th man candidate
Blazer legend Pat Connaughton

reserves:
better then the Blazers bench.
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Bucks GM is doing it right. But they'll be screwed for a LONG time once Dame and Giannis are done.

But I agree 100%. Dude is killing it.
 
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