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That shot really made my day.

To quote Shaq: "One lucky shot deserves another."

Anyway, Knicks up 5 in OT.
 
Curry finishes with 43 points and 13 rebounds and

Mardy Collins was 19 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists, and 5 steals. 7 turnovers though - ouch.

Nate finished with 34 points and 7 assists.
 
Thank you so much Curry
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Patterson banks a 3 with 0.9 left. Then Curry ties the game with a 3 haha.

Im so glad we lost this. Our chances at that 1st draft pick are still alive!

But it still is pretty sad for the Knicks to nearly lose to a team whos tanking........

All hail Eddy Curry!
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thank you so much Curry
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Patterson banks a 3 with 0.9 left. Then Curry ties the game with a 3 haha.

Im so glad we lost this. Our chances at that 1st draft pick are still alive!

But it still is pretty sad for the Knicks to nearly lose to a team whos tanking........

All hail Eddy Curry!</div>
You have no chance of getting the number one pick, your pick belongs to Chicago...
 
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You have no chance of getting the number one pick, your pick belongs to Chicago...</div>

What are you talking about?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What are you talking about?</div>

The Bulls have the right to exchange first round picks with the Knicks in this years draft via the Eddy Curry trade. So hypothetically speaking if you guys get the first pick, it goes to Chicago.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Bulls have the right to exchange first round picks with the Knicks in this years draft via the Eddy Curry trade. So hypothetically speaking if you guys get the first pick, it goes to Chicago.</div>

And what do the Bucks have to do with this...........
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And what do the Bucks have to do with this...........</div>
My fault............Knicks forum.........read it quick....assumed you were a Knicks fan. Jumped the gun lol...
 
Apparently the Knicks practice that shot. Isiah asked Curry in the huddle, "Are you ready to make your first three?" The play was actually designed for Curry.

<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">But it still is pretty sad for the Knicks to nearly lose to a team whos tanking........</div>
The Knicks were playing without Stephon Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Steve Francis, Quentin Richardson, and David Lee. Doing the math in my head, that's probably close to 70 points missing between those 5 players.
 
<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Apparently the Knicks practice that shot. Isiah asked Curry in the huddle, "Are you ready to make your first three?" The play was actually designed for Curry.


The Knicks were playing without Stephon Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Steve Francis, Quentin Richardson, and David Lee. Doing the math in my head, that's probably close to 70 points missing between those 5 players.</div>

The play was not designed for Curry, that is absolute crap. Knicks fans are just making this up to make Isiah look like a Genius. If he did actually make that play for Curry, he should be fired. Curry would never ever make a shot like that again, we just left him open. So If you guys like Isiah, you would be hoping that he DID NOT draw that play up for Curry. But I seriously doubt that he did draw that play up.

Bucks were delibratley trying to lose this game, first of all. Bucks were missing Brian Skinner, Andrew Bogut, Charlie Villanueva and Bobby Simmons. WE HAD NO BIG MEN!

Im not complaining or anything, I was glad we let you guys win. I dont want to win anymore games because it will make our draft pick worse. But you have to understand, that if we wanted to win that we could of.

I dont want to sound rude or anything. But if you guys can bearly beat a DEPLETED Bucks team full of injuries, who is delibratley trying to lose. Then you dont deserve to make playoffs.
 
The Knicks are as depleted as the Bucks, dont try and pull that ****

no one tries to loose....i dont care what you think pal, these are profesionals not some keyboard hack
 
<div class="quote_poster">02civic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Knicks are as depleted as the Bucks, dont try and pull that ****

no one tries to loose....i dont care what you think pal, these are profesionals not some keyboard hack</div>

We have been depleted for the whole season....You have just recently lost a few players.

We had 1 big man for this whole game, Gadzuric. Thats all we had.

We have had way more injuries than you throughout the season. Our star players have missed atleast 20 games this season EACH. We have easily been the most injury riddled team this year.

Even professional broadcasters agree that the Bucks are tanking, and not putting in 100%. We let you win that game on purpose, and I am glad we did. It keeps our chances of the number 1 pick alive.

Bogut, Villaneuva, Skinner and Bobby Simmons are much more important to the Bucks than the players you were missing. Oh and by the way, Redd is still playing injured and is not close to 100%.
 
who's talking about the season?
We're talking about this game here....thats what you were talking about at least. Saying how they could barely beat a team that wasnt trying.

And who are you talking too? I'm not a Knicks fan so its not like i'm biased...in fact if you ask around the forum I might be Knick public enemy #1 lol

Bottom line the Knicks were the better team, both teams are injury depleted though so who knows who's better.

End of the day you'll get a lottary pick and the Knicks almost or actually make the playoffs.
 
and for the record i dont care what they say, no team tanks games. they might rest their stars near the end of the season but the players on the court give 110%. If the league thought they were trying to loose you bet your ass there'd be action
 
<div class="quote_poster">02civic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">and for the record i dont care what they say, no team tanks games. they might rest their stars near the end of the season but the players on the court give 110%. If the league thought they were trying to loose you bet your ass there'd be action</div>

Andrew Bogut is not even injured. He hurt his foot, and has now recovered. Bucks are sitting him out because the rest of the games this season are not important(Tanking). Teams do tank all the time. Boston, Memphis and Milwaukee are all tanking games. They rest their stars because they dont want to win games anymore. Boston, Memphis and Milwaukee are all sitting their stars out these past few games. If you cant see these teams are tanking then I suggest you take another look

The league cannot do anything about teams tanking.

I know Knicks were the better team, and I am glad they were.

I am just saying, if the Knicks can bearly beat a injury riddled team who is delibratley trying to lose, they are in trouble.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The play was not designed for Curry, that is absolute crap. Knicks fans are just making this up to make Isiah look like a Genius. If he did actually make that play for Curry, he should be fired. Curry would never ever make a shot like that again, we just left him open. So If you guys like Isiah, you would be hoping that he DID NOT draw that play up for Curry. But I seriously doubt that he did draw that play up.

Bucks were delibratley trying to lose this game, first of all. Bucks were missing Brian Skinner, Andrew Bogut, Charlie Villanueva and Bobby Simmons. WE HAD NO BIG MEN!

Im not complaining or anything, I was glad we let you guys win. I dont want to win anymore games because it will make our draft pick worse. But you have to understand, that if we wanted to win that we could of.

I dont want to sound rude or anything. But if you guys can bearly beat a DEPLETED Bucks team full of injuries, who is delibratley trying to lose. Then you dont deserve to make playoffs.</div>
I think MrJ was being sarcastic.
 
<div class="quote_poster">hustler Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think MrJ was being sarcastic.</div>

I hope he was.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Andrew Bogut is not even injured. He hurt his foot, and has now recovered. Bucks are sitting him out because the rest of the games this season are not important(Tanking). Teams do tank all the time. Boston, Memphis and Milwaukee are all tanking games. They rest their stars because they dont want to win games anymore. Boston, Memphis and Milwaukee are all sitting their stars out these past few games. If you cant see these teams are tanking then I suggest you take another look

The league cannot do anything about teams tanking.

I know Knicks were the better team, and I am glad they were.

I am just saying, if the Knicks can bearly beat a injury riddled team who is delibratley trying to lose, they are in trouble.</div>Sorry, but no one intentionally loses. They're professionals, they always play to win, no matter what. And I highly doubt Boston or Memphis is tanking. They each were missing their star player for a huge chunk of the season, and when you're as young as each of them are, you can't expect to win that much. And you don't tank at the beginning of the year either. Neither of them have been worth a damn from the get-go.

Beyond that, the Knicks are missing equally as important players as you guys. Starbury and Crawford are the two best offensive players on the team and David Lee is a great energy and hustle guy. Hell, one of the players you listed off (Bobby Simmons) hasn't played a minute all year, so I don't understand even bringing him into the argument. You can't really gauge his importance if he's sitting on the bench in a suit all season. And with Bogut, you don't recover from all sprains quickly. If it wasn't serious, I highly doubt they'd just shut him down. Sometimes sprains can actually come out worse than breaking a bone.

And as for Boston sitting out PP, I see nothing wrong with it. The team is going nowhere fast so why not? It gives them the opportunity to get a better look at some of their young talent and not risk Pierce getting hurt again. They're not tanking at this point, they're just trying not to kill their future.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, but no one intentionally loses. They're professionals, they always play to win, no matter what. And I highly doubt Boston or Memphis is tanking. They each were missing their star player for a huge chunk of the season, and when you're as young as each of them are, you can't expect to win that much. And you don't tank at the beginning of the year either. Neither of them have been worth a damn from the get-go.

Beyond that, the Knicks are missing equally as important players as you guys. Starbury and Crawford are the two best offensive players on the team and David Lee is a great energy and hustle guy. Hell, one of the players you listed off (Bobby Simmons) hasn't played a minute all year, so I don't understand even bringing him into the argument. You can't really gauge his importance if he's sitting on the bench in a suit all season. And with Bogut, you don't recover from all sprains quickly. If it wasn't serious, I highly doubt they'd just shut him down. Sometimes sprains can actually come out worse than breaking a bone.

And as for Boston sitting out PP, I see nothing wrong with it. The team is going nowhere fast so why not? It gives them the opportunity to get a better look at some of their young talent and not risk Pierce getting hurt again. They're not tanking at this point, they're just trying not to kill their future.</div>

Boston have been sitting out Jefferson also lately. They are doing this because they want to him rest up for next season. Because this season is over for them and they just want to get a better draft pick.
They are sitting out PP to lose games. Who wouldnt if you were going to get a shot at Greg Oden or Kevin Durant who both will be superstars.

I never said anybody tanked at the start of the year. Did you know Milwaukee were predicted to be a number 3 seed in the East at the start? Then injuries riddled them, they quickly fell to the bottom. When the Superstar players returned, it was too late. Our playoffs hope were still mathematically alive, but now its too late. So we are sitting out our Superstar players, or cutting back their minutes. We are doing this to get a better draft pick, because our season is basically over. So we are tanking to get a better pick. Its quite obvious.

Notice how none of the playoff teams sit out there players? Its only the teams near the bottom who let their star players rest.

Just admit, the evidence is there to prove that these teams are tanking.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hope he was.</div>
No, I'm very serious:
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Anyway, like I said, the Knicks were playing just as depleted as the Bucks.
 
Gutsy move by Isiah. That's one of the coaching moves where he'd be ripped apart later, if Curry hadn't hit the shot.

As for the whole tanking issue, I think people are being a little naive. Of course team's are tanking. Just compare this year (one with a strong draft class) to last season (one with a weak class), and you'll see that team's began to "rest their injured players" and "evaluate their prospects" a lot earlier than usual. Of course that doesn't mean the players have that in mind. For the most part, players won't care about the draft lottery and stuff like that, but GM's and upper management of a lot of these teams clearly have given up .
 
You are.........nevermind...I'll be good. Lets just say I think you're being ridiculous, acting like you're 10 and basically...you're just not using your brain


<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Andrew Bogut is not even injured. He hurt his foot, and has now recovered. Bucks are sitting him out because the rest of the games this season are not important(Tanking). Teams do tank all the time. Boston, Memphis and Milwaukee are all tanking games. They rest their stars because they dont want to win games anymore. Boston, Memphis and Milwaukee are all sitting their stars out these past few games. If you cant see these teams are tanking then I suggest you take another look</div>

Did I not just say that teams do rest stars!? I mean it makes sense especially for players who suffer injuries at the end of the season like Bogut did. Besides...did Redd not play in the game? Is he not the Bucks star? geez think man

Anyways, it's a moot point. I admitted teams rest star players at the end of a decided season, but I still say that no matter what the players that are in the game give it there all, as does the coach. The bucks that were in MSG that night did not try to loose...if you think that you are frankly a moron.


<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
I am just saying, if the Knicks can bearly beat a injury riddled team who is delibratley trying to lose, they are in trouble.</div>

You guys were without Skinner, Charlie V. Bogut. The Knicks were without there marbury, francis, crawford, q-rich, and LEE.
Lets do the math


3 important players not available for the bucks - 5 important players not available for the Knicks......umm...gee, I must not be very good at math cause it looks to me like the Knicks are more injury depleted?! Could that be so?!

Both teams were injury depleted missing key players, the Knicks played better. End of story. No one tried to loose, no one "could barely beat" anyone. Knicks beat Bucks...you loose
 
And for the record Redd played almost 44 minutes


i rest my case
 
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02civic, your too funny.

Teams tank all the time.

You know why Paul Pierce is sitting out? You know why Bogut and CV are sitting out? They rest their stars because they are tanking for a good draft pick. I dont see any of the playoff teams "resting" their stars. Its only the bottom teams. Are you really that dense?

Isnt it a coinsidence how 2 teams with the worst records, are sitting their stars out for extensive time??????

Even professional broadcasters admit these teams are tanking. The Bucks blew this game on purpose, and I am very happy they gave it away.

By the way, Isiah Thomas should be fired. If his Genius plan is having a 7 foot fat ass center shooting a 3, then he is crazy. Even though the shot went it, what a terrible descision when you had Nate Robinson on the court. Curry would never make a shot like that again, so if I was Knicks I would fire Isiah right away.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
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02civic, your too funny.

Teams tank all the time.

You know why Paul Pierce is sitting out? You know why Bogut and CV are sitting out? They rest their stars because they are tanking for a good draft pick. I dont see any of the playoff teams "resting" their stars. Its only the bottom teams. Are you really that dense?

Isnt it a coinsidence how 2 teams with the worst records, are sitting their stars out for extensive time??????

Even professional broadcasters admit these teams are tanking. The Bucks blew this game on purpose, and I am very happy they gave it away.

By the way, Isiah Thomas should be fired. If his Genius plan is having a 7 foot fat ass center shooting a 3, then he is crazy. Even though the shot went it, what a terrible descision when you had Nate Robinson on the court. Curry would never make a shot like that again, so if I was Knicks I would fire Isiah right away.</div>

You just don't get it, and this is the last time I'm going to explain it to you

- you said the bucks were trying too loose in the Knicks game

I said thats bull, the bucks present that night gave 100% to try to win

- you said the bucks were injury depleted and the Knicks were basically a joke for having a hard time with such a depleted team

I said thats bull, the Knicks are as if not more so depleted than the Bucks

- you said teams teams sit there stars

I agreed they do, but that wasnt the case in the Bucks/Knicks game. Especially with Redd (there only star by the way) playing 40+ minutes. CV and Bogut have legit injuries and its only common sense to let them rest since nothing is on the line. That doesn't mean the team doesnt want the win though. And the individual players DEFINATELY want the win, no matter what.




PM me if you need it broken down further


02civic, try to get your point across without cursing. - MrJ
 
<div class="quote_poster">Basketballer05 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">By the way, Isiah Thomas should be fired. If his Genius plan is having a 7 foot fat ass center shooting a 3, then he is crazy. Even though the shot went it, what a terrible descision when you had Nate Robinson on the court. Curry would never make a shot like that again, so if I was Knicks I would fire Isiah right away.</div>
With 0.9 left in the game, I'm sure the Bucks would be all over Nate Robinson and he wouldn't have gotten off a quality shot, that's why he was used as a decoy to give Curry an open look. It's not like Isiah drew this play out randomly, the Knicks actually practice this play. It was a gutsy move, as Chutney said, and it worked.

If the Knicks practice this play and it works, why was it a terrible decision.
 
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