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KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
Damn. If we can make quick work of Clips, we have a shot at stealing a game at Oracle.
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Or less likely the Rockets could come back and win the series....what am I talking about...hahahahaha
 
Minstrel said:
Warriors fans are suddenly big Trailblazers fans, considering a 7 game Blazers/Clippers series causes Curry to miss the least amount of games, heh.
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Wusses
 
I'm so torn.... on the one hand, I want the Warriors to lose.

But on the other hand, I hate the Rockets..... and I would rather see Golden State win out. I can't stand the idea of LaMarsha getting a ring.
 
Yeah makes our series more interesting.

Even if we somehow advanced; Warriors would be huge favorites without Curry.

It might actually be worse for them if he is in and out of the lineup, no idea what he can give them. If he was just done for the season they could move on. They have tons of depth.

If they somehow won the title without Curry it'd have to cement them as the greatest team of all time, right? Can't imagine Jordan getting hurt with the 72 win Bulls or Bird out for the 1986 Celtics and they win the finals.
 
Draco said:
Yeah makes our series more interesting.

Even if we somehow advanced; Warriors would be huge favorites without Curry.

It might actually be worse for them if he is in and out of the lineup, no idea what he can give them. If he was just done for the season and they could move on.
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I actually really like our chances if we somehow ended up making it to the second round against GSW. He has lit us up in every game this season. If you take that away, with the way that Dame always plays against them, I really like our chances.
 
The stars are aligning. The blazers beat the clips in 6 and take out a curryless warriors squad. We match up well with the warriors but without curry we have the advantage at point guard. Holy shit can you imagine if tim duncan and tony parker go down and blazers beat the fuck out of lamarsha?

I tried to tell those spoiled warriors fans all it takes is one knee or glass ankle on curry and you might not be so cocky. Blazers make finals in the season we were predicted to be 29th in the league. Fuck yes im so motivated now.
 
I think the Warriors will take care of Houston. But a second round series and a WCF, against Spurs or OKC, without Curry? No flipping way.

Bummer for them. And really, I hate to see championship basketball stand or fall on one person's injury. But it does.
 
crandc said:
I think the Warriors will take care of Houston. But a second round series and a WCF, against Spurs or OKC, without Curry? No flipping way.

Bummer for them. And really, I hate to see championship basketball stand or fall on one person's injury. But it does.
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Ask the 1978 Blazers.

Well, it was more than one person, but still. Injuries suck.

:cheers:
 
crandc said:
I think the Warriors will take care of Houston. But a second round series and a WCF, against Spurs or OKC, without Curry? No flipping way.
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Depends on when Curry actually gets back. If he's back midway through the second round, with no major lingering effects, their title hopes are still alive.

If after 2 weeks, his MCL still isn't good to go and he misses conference finals games...that'll pretty much write an end to their chances.

To put the Curry-less Warriors in perspective, I thought this was an interesting article from Kevin Pelton:

A better way to estimate Golden State's level of play without Curry is using the multi-year version of ESPN's real plus-minus (RPM).

RPM suggests the Warriors are 1.6 points per 100 possessions better than league average on offense without Curry. That rate would made Golden State about the NBA's eighth best offensive team (tied with Houston).

On defense, the Warriors would rate third in the league, at 4.4 points per 100 possessions better than league average (behind only San Antonio and Atlanta).

So, using the minutes distribution we saw in Games 2 and 3, with Curry out, the Warriors would be about 6.0 points per 100 possessions better than league average overall. That is a slightly better than Cleveland (at 5.8) and it translates to about 57 wins over a full season.

That estimate is similar to how Las Vegas has treated the Curry-less Warriors this series. The final line for Game 2 favored Golden State by 8.5 points at home after Curry was ruled out, and the Warriors were 3.5-point favorites for Game 3 on the road, suggesting that gamblers consider Golden State about six points better than the Rockets on a neutral court. The line went up just five points (to Warriors as 8.5-point favorites) for Game 4 when Curry was available.​

Quite a bit more here.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
The stars are aligning. The blazers beat the clips in 6 and take out a curryless warriors squad. We match up well with the warriors but without curry we have the advantage at point guard. Holy shit can you imagine if tim duncan and tony parker go down and blazers beat the fuck out of lamarsha?

I tried to tell those spoiled warriors fans all it takes is one knee or glass ankle on curry and you might not be so cocky. Blazers make finals in the season we were predicted to be 29th in the league. Fuck yes im so motivated now.
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If somehow we win tonight we'll still be underdogs against the Clips; two of three in LA. But yeah if we win that, and if we win against Golden State we'd somehow of found ourselves in the conference finals.

We'd have a much better chance against the Thunder so I'd be rooting for them to beat the Spurs. Spurs would be a slow painful death. Thunder would be exciting and they make enough dumb plays to give us a chance. I certainly wouldn't complain about either.

But yeah we're definitely ahead of ourselves; got to win tonight to have a chance.
 
Minstrel said:
Depends on when Curry actually gets back. If he's back midway through the second round, with no major lingering effects, their title hopes are still alive.

If after 2 weeks, his MCL still isn't good to go and he misses conference finals games...that'll pretty much write an end to their chances.

To put the Curry-less Warriors in perspective, I thought this was an interesting article from Kevin Pelton:

A better way to estimate Golden State's level of play without Curry is using the multi-year version of ESPN's real plus-minus (RPM).

RPM suggests the Warriors are 1.6 points per 100 possessions better than league average on offense without Curry. That rate would made Golden State about the NBA's eighth best offensive team (tied with Houston).

On defense, the Warriors would rate third in the league, at 4.4 points per 100 possessions better than league average (behind only San Antonio and Atlanta).

So, using the minutes distribution we saw in Games 2 and 3, with Curry out, the Warriors would be about 6.0 points per 100 possessions better than league average overall. That is a slightly better than Cleveland (at 5.8) and it translates to about 57 wins over a full season.

That estimate is similar to how Las Vegas has treated the Curry-less Warriors this series. The final line for Game 2 favored Golden State by 8.5 points at home after Curry was ruled out, and the Warriors were 3.5-point favorites for Game 3 on the road, suggesting that gamblers consider Golden State about six points better than the Rockets on a neutral court. The line went up just five points (to Warriors as 8.5-point favorites) for Game 4 when Curry was available.​

Quite a bit more here.
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Yeah I read that, was interesting, but Golden State could easily improve their Curryless play once they game plan around other players. I don't think you can just extrapolate minutes he wasn't on the court and say thats predictive. If everyone else is healthy they have a loaded team. I'd put them at the same level with the Thunder and Cavs. They wouldn't be the run away favorites as they are with a healthy Curry but they'd have a legit shot at winning it all. The Thunder could certainly beat the Spurs too which would remove the Warriors greatest threat.
 
Draco said:
Yeah I read that, was interesting, but Golden State could easily improve their Curryless play once they game plan around other players. I don't think you can just extrapolate minutes he wasn't on the court and say thats predictive. If everyone else is healthy they have a loaded team. I'd put them at the same level with the Thunder and Cavs. They wouldn't be the run away favorites as they are with a healthy Curry but they'd have a legit shot at winning it all. The Thunder could certainly beat the Spurs too which would remove the Warriors greatest threat.
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Yeah, that was a quick-and-dirty approximation based on data on the books. I agree that the Warriors can optimize around the players they have left by gameplanning for no Curry, in a way they really couldn't during the season or when Curry was just resting.

But it's interesting that even without such optimizations, they're basically on the level of teams like the Cavs and Thunder. I'd probably narrowly favor the Warriors over the Clippers in the second round even if Curry missed the whole series, especially with them having home court.

This does give the Blazers an interesting, if still tiny, chance to go on a miracle run. The 73-win behemoth is potentially out of the way for them...and if the Thunder can pull off an upset of the Spurs, you could at least start to imagine a smoking hot Portland team competing in each series. They're still big underdogs in this series and would be big underdogs to the Curry-less Warriors and Thunder and Cavaliers, but none are nearly as imposing as the full-strength Warriors.
 
oldmangrouch said:
If I were Stotts, I would ban talk of any other team except the Clips. FOCUS!
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No kidding. We're behind in the series. There should be NO talk of any other "future" series. Just game 4. That's it.

Is it scary for some people to live in the present moment? There's WAY too much work to be done to be even thinking about another series.

Game 4. That's all that exists.
 
We aren't playing. It's fine for us to talk about it.
 
Strenuus said:
Expectations are a resentment waiting to happen... that's all I will say about that.
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Come on Stren, most people said they'd be happy if we won a couple games, and yet there they were after game one freaking out.

People are going to be upset if we lose. Doesn't matter if we were supposed to lose or not.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Come on Stren, most people said they'd be happy if we won a couple games, and yet there they were after game one freaking out.

People are going to be upset if we lose. Doesn't matter if we were supposed to lose or not.
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This year has been all about win-win... I'm just enjoying the ride.

If i may quote something:

"The worlds a roller coaster
And I am not strapped in
Maybe I should hold with care
But my hands are busy in the air saying"

Incubus - Wish you were here
 
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