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inconceivable said:
Let's see him dunk first, but if he's not retirning til 11 months from now, he can be at least 80% of peak blazer dame
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I never once indicated he even looked like he was close to coming back or dunking. I simply said he's moving well. You took that and ran with it.
 
THE HCP said:
1000/1090…… 92%

I believe our outside shooting concerns for next season have been solved.
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seems impressive....but it's an empty gym. might not solve Portland's shooting issues yet

in his two seasons in Milwaukee, before his Achilles Injury, when he was 33 & 34, he shot 36.4% from three. That's around the NBA average. Not sure adding an average shooter solves the riddle

Dame will be 36 coming off the worst injury in BB

* Wesley Matthews was a 39% shooter from deep before his Achilles injury. He shot 36% the year he returned and he was 29. When he was 36 he shot 31.5%

* Kevin Durant was about the same shooter after his Achilles tear as before. He did have his worst season shooting 3's before the tear; and his best after, but it was only 35 games

* Klay Thompson was about a 41-42% shooter before the injury, and about a 39% after; but he injured his ACL too, IIRC

* Kobe Bryant was a 34% shooter before his injury and a 29% shooter after; and he came back just before he turned 35

probably too early to tell with Dejounte Murray and Jayson Tatum. But Tatum has terrible marks so far compared to his pre-injury norms

I really don't know what to expect from Dame. That injury and his age are not positive signals. He's going to have a lot of rust. Not counting this season, in his 6 previous seasons he's averaged under 59 games. Now, that includes the year he had abdominal surgery; if you delete that year, he averaged 64 games. Safe to say he won't be playing 75 plus games and he may be rested on B2B. That would seem smart.

if Jrue & Deni are back, Dame may have a good opportunity to play off the ball more than he used to. That may help him recover his shooting stroke
 
wizenheimer said:
seems impressive....but it's an empty gym. might not solve Portland's shooting issues yet

in his two seasons in Milwaukee, before his Achilles Injury, when he was 33 & 34, he shot 36.4% from three. That's around the NBA average. Not sure adding an average shooter solves the riddle

Dame will be 36 coming off the worst injury in BB

* Wesley Matthews was a 39% shooter from deep before his Achilles injury. He shot 36% the year he returned and he was 29. When he was 36 he shot 31.5%

* Kevin Durant was about the same shooter after his Achilles tear as before. He did have his worst season shooting 3's before the tear; and his best after, but it was only 35 games

* Klay Thompson was about a 41-42% shooter before the injury, and about a 39% after; but he injured his ACL too, IIRC

* Kobe Bryant was a 34% shooter before his injury and a 29% shooter after; and he came back just before he turned 35

probably too early to tell with Dejounte Murray and Jayson Tatum. But Tatum has terrible marks so far compared to his pre-injury norms

I really don't know what to expect from Dame. That injury and his age are not positive signals. He's going to have a lot of rust. Not counting this season, in his 6 previous seasons he's averaged under 59 games. Now, that includes the year he had abdominal surgery; if you delete that year, he averaged 64 games. Safe to say he won't be playing 75 plus games and he may be rested on B2B. That would seem smart.

if Jrue & Deni are back, Dame may have a good opportunity to play off the ball more than he used to. That may help him recover his shooting stroke
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Dame and Deni can both play off the ball
 
I can’t wait for MODA to go off when dame plays his first game. It will be insane. If I am there I would probably need tissues (get ur mind outta the gutter).
 
I’m don’t need 15 paragraphs to tell me that Dame has an immediate positive affect/effect on this team. He alone playing off ball will change the entire flow of our offense. Obviously.
Imagine how much more open the lane will be for Scoot/Shae/Deni to work.
 
kjironman1 said:
They have this guy they drafted with the #3 pick named Scooter. He might be able to help there? IDK?
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you mean the guy with the 1.47 assist/turnover ratio?

Portland will have Deni, Dame, and Jrue initiating offense and they are all much better than Scoot. Blazers will have the high usage pair of Sharpe and Grant, and while Grant free-lances 32% of his plays, Sharpe does it 54% of the time

I have a hard time seeing Scoot getting much opportunity unless, once again, Portland is racked with injuries. Of course if that's the case, Scoot hasn't been a picture of health himself
 
wizenheimer said:
you mean the guy with the 1.47 assist/turnover ratio?

Portland will have Deni, Dame, and Jrue initiating offense and they are all much better than Scoot. Blazers will have the high usage pair of Sharpe and Grant, and while Grant free-lances 32% of his plays, Sharpe does it 54% of the time

I have a hard time seeing Scoot getting much opportunity unless, once again, Portland is racked with injuries. Of course if that's the case, Scoot hasn't been a picture of health himself
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You do realize the shooter needs to MAKE the shot for it to be an assist right.
Seriously TO/Assist ratio is as bad as +- stats.
 
Dames last year here he averaged 11.3 3 point attempts per game & 37% and his last year at Milwaukee 9.0 3papg @ 38%.

Wes at his best averaged 7.4 3 point apg.
 
kjironman1 said:
You do realize the shooter needs to MAKE the shot for it to be an assist right.
Seriously TO/Assist ratio is as bad as +- stats.
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that's false....lol...right...Scoot is the first PG ever to have teammates miss shots. Bad luck

but out of curiosity, let's do the math:

* Portland averages 40.7 FG's on 90.1 FGA. That's a .452 FG% which ranks 29th

* the average FG% in the NBA is .4675. If the Blazers were an average team they'd convert 42.1 of the 90.1 FGA's meaning they convert 1.4 more FG's a game

* Portland averages 25.1 assists game which means they assist on 61.7% of their shots.

* 61.7% of 1.4 made FG's = .86 more assists a game for the team. Scoot averages 3.8 assists/game, so his share of Portland's 25.1 assists is 15%.

* So Scoot's assist average would increase by 15% of .86. That's 0.13 assists a game.

* Scoot has played 23 games. So his assist total would increase from 88 to 91

that would mean, if Portland was an average shooting team, Scoot's assist/turnover ratio would increase from 1.47 to 1.52. That's not a significant improvement at all. 1.52 is still terrible for a PG. Meaning, his current assist/turnover mark is a valid gauge, not the meaningless gauge you claim it is

assist/turnover ratios:

Cam Spenser 4.30
Andrew Nembhard 3.16
Dylan Harper 2.76
Stephen Castle 2.27
Blake Wesley 2.14
Amen Thompson 2.12
Jalen Suggs 2.06
Caleb Love 2.01
Keyonte George 2.00
Cooper Flagg 1.93
Kon Kneuppel 1.75
Scoot Henderson 1.47
 
wizenheimer said:
that's false....lol...right...Scoot is the first PG ever to have teammates miss shots. Bad luck

but out of curiosity, let's do the math:

* Portland averages 40.7 FG's on 90.1 FGA. That's a .452 FG% which ranks 29th

* the average FG% in the NBA is .4675. If the Blazers were an average team they'd convert 42.1 of the 90.1 FGA's meaning they convert 1.4 more FG's a game

* Portland averages 25.1 assists game which means they assist on 61.7% of their shots.

* 61.7% of 1.4 made FG's = .86 more assists a game for the team. Scoot averages 3.8 assists/game, so his share of Portland's 25.1 assists is 15%.

* So Scoot's assist average would increase by 15% of .86. That's 0.13 assists a game.

* Scoot has played 23 games. So his assist total would increase from 88 to 91

that would mean, if Portland was an average shooting team, Scoot's assist/turnover ratio would increase from 1.47 to 1.52. That's not a significant improvement at all. 1.52 is still terrible for a PG. Meaning, his current assist/turnover mark is a valid gauge, not the meaningless gauge you claim it is

assist/turnover ratios:

Cam Spenser 4.30
Andrew Nembhard 3.16
Dylan Harper 2.76
Stephen Castle 2.27
Blake Wesley 2.14
Amen Thompson 2.12
Jalen Suggs 2.06
Caleb Love 2.01
Keyonte George 2.00
Cooper Flagg 1.93
Kon Kneuppel 1.75
Scoot Henderson 1.47
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Are we saying that Portland is not a poor shooting team right now. Is that the gist of this post?
I’d say they are likely to get a lot better with Dame on the court. Not just Dame making shots but Dame making the game easier for everyone on the court.
 
kjironman1 said:
Are we saying that Portland is not a poor shooting team right now. Is that the gist of this post?
I’d say they are likely to get a lot better with Dame on the court. Not just Dame making shots but Dame making the game easier for everyone on the court.
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I think the gist of it is, Scoot has yet to show he can really be a good PG. He is something, but I'm not sold on him being any part of the future. To me, he screams backup PG, not a lead PG. Yeah, the occasional good game but more often than not, I just feel meh when I see him.

Not. Sold.
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
I think the gist of it is, Scoot has yet to show he can really be a good PG. He is something, but I'm not sold on him being any part of the future. To me, he screams backup PG, not a lead PG. Yeah, the occasional good game but more often than not, I just feel meh when I see him.

Not. Sold.
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Just my thoughts on this is the season was lost this year for him.
I just don’t think the work he put in last summer ever got a chance to materialize due to injury and the time he has played has been partially getting back in game shape both physically and mentally. Then only now is he really trying to reclaim the advances he made last summer.
 
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