Dame makes 2nd team All NBA

[blue9]

DeMarcus Cousins?

Doh - beat me to it!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Or the last time a healthy player didn't make the all-star team and was an NBA second team selection

Or better still, the last time a healthy player didn't make the all star team and was FIRST team All NBA.

So, who was the bigger all star snub, DeAndre Jordan (1st Team All NBA) or Damian Lillard (2nd Team All NBA)?

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

[ahem] Cousins?

Oops, never mind...

Still a Boob

 

[Strenuus]

Or better still, the last time a healthy player didn't make the all star team and was FIRST team All NBA.

So, who was the bigger all star snub, DeAndre Jordan (1st Team All NBA) or Damian Lillard (2nd Team All NBA)?

BNM

Damian, easily. Deandre isn't a great player, really, offensively.

 

[B-Roy]

Really makes you think our target has always been a 0-6 Max Player, rather than a 7-9 or 10+ Max Player.

Or that he didn't expect Dame to make an All-NBA team, which is also a perfectly reasonable assumption going into the season.

 

[B-Roy]

Or better still, the last time a healthy player didn't make the all star team and was FIRST team All NBA.


BNM

That is actually crazy. I don't think it's ever been done.

 

[Strenuus]

Or better still, the last time a healthy player didn't make the all star team and was FIRST team All NBA.

So, who was the bigger all star snub, DeAndre Jordan (1st Team All NBA) or Damian Lillard (2nd Team All NBA)?

BNM

I'm looking at all the all-nba teams... I'd have to match up the all star teams and see...

 

[Pinwheel1]

"Lillard will get about $23 million more over his five-year contract thanks to the "Rose Rule."

I thought it was just a bonus this year.... a 23 million bump that hinged on some voters.....that must have been nerve racking for him. That is huge.

 

[Orion Bailey]

"Lillard will get about $23 million more over his five-year contract thanks to the "Rose Rule."

I thought it was just a bonus this year.... a 23 million bump that hinged on some voters.....that must have been nerve racking for him. That is huge.

OKay, so is it $23 mill or $12.5 mill ? Several posts prior to yours are pretty much confirming $12.5 mil.. Huge difference there.

 

[Pinwheel1]

OKay, so is it $23 mill or $12.5 mill ? Several posts prior to yours are pretty much confirming $12.5 mil.. Huge difference there.

Not sure. My source is not very good.......

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...lillard_named_to_all-nba_2nd.html#incart_2box

Edit: Ha they edited the article....because I copy and pasted from it before.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Not sure. My source is not very good.......

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...lillard_named_to_all-nba_2nd.html#incart_2box

Edit: Ha they edited the article....because I copy and pasted from it before.

Well there you go. Olive... haha

 

[BrianFromWA]

Guys, "Rose Rule" isn't a bonus. It's a clause in the CBA that allows players coming off their rookie contracts to not be limited to the 0-6 year max when they sign "max extensions". As many have stated, his "max contract" value hasn't been set (at $24M per year or whatever) and won't be until after the July Moratorium and new cap number comes out. But his PERCENTAGES of the cap have been (in this case 27.5% vs the 25% mandated by CBA for non-Rose maxes)

And it's not quite a full 25/27.5% of the cap. If the cap was $100M, due to some odd CBA accounting stuff, he won't get the full $27.5M. But that's another post.

 

[B-Roy]

Guys, the only thing you need to know about the rose rule is that the Blazers will lose about 2.5 million in cap room this summer. That may seem insignificant, but before this happened we were only about 400k off being able to offer a max to a tier 2 max player (Horford/Durant) while still keeping Leonard, Harkless, and Crabbe. (Which we could have gotten if we waived one of Alexander/Montero). Now we are around 3 million off, and will have to lose one of those players in the off chance we secure a commitment from Horford or someone else.

 

[Natebishop3]

Guys, the only thing you need to know about the rose rule is that the Blazers will lose about 2.5 million in cap room this summer. That may seem insignificant, but before this happened we were only about 400k off being able to offer a max to a tier 2 max player (Horford/Durant) while still keeping Leonard, Harkless, and Crabbe. (Which we could have gotten if we waived one of Alexander/Montero). Now we are around 3 million off, and will have to lose one of those players in the off chance we secure a commitment from Horford or someone else.

Getting Dame on the All-NBA list was important though. We get some street cred with the other free agents, I think.

 

[KingSpeed]

but wasnt an all star... hmmm lmao

6 of the top 7 guards from West

 

[KingSpeed]

DeAndre Jordan is not the best center in the league. Come on, guys.

Who is? And why?

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Who is? And why?

Mason plumlee. Cause he wears a fucking pinwheel why else?

 

[illmatic99]

Who is? And why?

Boogie would eat Deandre for lunch. Hell even Draymond as a fake C would have been a better choice.

 

[BBert]

The extra $2.5M added to next year's salaries will definitely have an effect if we plan on going after a max salaried player.

Considering all of the CAP holds, we have about $4.2M of space.
- Release Kaman, gives us $10.7M.
- Release Henderson, gives us $19.7M.
** The max for a 0-6 yr vet like Whiteside will be approximately $21.5M.
- Release Roberts, gives us $23.4M.
** The max for a 7-9 yr vet like Horford will be approximately $25.9M.
- There are minimum 12-man roster holds, so release Montero & Alexander (minimum) doesn't give us any extra room.
~ The only remaining non-guaranteed contracts/holds are Leonard ($7.7M), Harkless ($7.2M), and Crabbe ($2.7M).

Hopefully we have the opportunity to make those tough decisions this summer.

So after releasing Roberts, we are exactly $2.5mil short of Horford's Max. Dame's $2.5mil. Wow.

Signing Leonard and Harkless to $6mil each gives us exactly $2.5mil, and Horford back in play.

Maybe Horford would pull a Lillard and play for $23mil? Stranger things have happened. I don't know what, but there must be something.

 

[BBert]

That a possibility, but my guess is that with the insane amount of money out there, these guys will be getting at least their CAP holds.
Leonard's cap hold is $7,689,799. My guess is he'll get around $10M.
Harkless' cap hold is $7,235,148. My guess is he'll get around $8M.
Crabbe's cap hold is $2,725,003. My guess is he'll get around $8M.

There's a lot of teams out there with a lot of money to spend.

Dag nab it.

 

[BBert]

Wouldn't a 0-6 player fit in with our age curve anyway?

Yep

 

[Shaboid]

I'm looking at all the all-nba teams... I'd have to match up the all star teams and see...

Some nerd here has to have pivot tools access.

 

[BonesJones]

Someone who isn't a butt-hurt 14-year-old girl?

Yeah screw you dude.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Sooks. But... We don't commit to Dame last year.... After the season we had... Y'all bitches would be all, " We had a franchise player locked and wanted to be here - why didn't we commit?" Can't have it both ways. If a top-level FA wants to be here, we have the ability to make it happen. Signing Dame when we did won't mean a thing.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Wouldn't a 0-6 player fit in with our age curve anyway?

6". That's all Mrs. HCP has been looking for since '77.

 

[maxiep]

The figure I care about 217 > 103. Fuck you LaMarshmallow.

 

[illmatic99]

Guys, the only thing you need to know about the rose rule is that the Blazers will lose about 2.5 million in cap room this summer. That may seem insignificant, but before this happened we were only about 400k off being able to offer a max to a tier 2 max player (Horford/Durant) while still keeping Leonard, Harkless, and Crabbe. (Which we could have gotten if we waived one of Alexander/Montero). Now we are around 3 million off, and will have to lose one of those players in the off chance we secure a commitment from Horford or someone else.

What's the point in signing Leonard if we already have Horford, Plums, Ed and Vonleh?

Similarly, whats the point in signing Harkless if we already have Durant, Aminu, Crabbe and Patty C?

If we have a legit shot at Horford, we can afford to let Leonard dangle in UFA. Same with KD and Harkless. I doubt either is an option, so this is still insignificant in my mind. On paper, it might seem like a difference maker, but in reality, not so much.

 

[riverman]

Sooks. But... We don't commit to Dame last year.... After the season we had... Y'all bitches would be all, " We had a franchise player locked and wanted to be here - why didn't we commit?" Can't have it both ways. If a top-level FA wants to be here, we have the ability to make it happen. Signing Dame when we did won't mean a thing.

I don't miss trader Bob either

 

[Rhal]

Has there ever been another team that has had 2 all NBA players in 5 years that didn't make the AS game? I'm not sure how easy it would be to figure out but I want to see what team after us has the longest between two players that made an all nba team but didn't make the AS game.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So after releasing Roberts, we are exactly $2.5mil short of Horford's Max. Dame's $2.5mil. Wow.

Signing Leonard and Harkless to $6mil each gives us exactly $2.5mil, and Horford back in play.

Maybe Horford would pull a Lillard and play for $23mil? Stranger things have happened. I don't know what, but there must be something.

I think Dame is setting the trend and we will be the new SA. Players will sign for less to play with a leader/winner like Dame.

Before any of you comment...

NO! IM NOT GONNA WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!