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Its possible the Blazers may need to evaluate Dame trade options. Yes this has a sad element and many posters here may want to stay out of this thread at this time, please feel free to leave if you wish.

This thread is to consider idea of Dame trades. I'll start with a Heat trade idea;

$3.5 million #18 pick selected yesterday Jaime Jaquez Jr
$29.6 million Kyle Lowry expiring contract
$9.4 million Victor Oladipo expiring contract
Two 1st round picks unprotected 2027 and 2029
Three 1st round pick swaps unprotected in 2026, 2028, and 2030
Two 2nd round picks in 2026 and 2029

$45.6 million Dame trade - saves the Blazers about $2-3 million. Gives Blazers control of Heats unprotected picks for 5 years in 2026-2030.

Other players to be acquired instead would be Herro or Robinson salary, I'd prefer the expiring contracts above instead of those overpaid deals.

If Blazers want a third first round pick a much less valuable 2025 pick that is the lesser of multiple teams selections can be acquired then routed to Miami to free up all of Miami 2026 2028 2030 picks to be traded unprotected instead. Then add swaps in 2027 and 2029
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Its possible the Blazers may need to evaluate Dame trade options. Yes this has a sad element and many posters here may want to stay out of this thread at this time, please feel free to leave if you wish.

This thread is to consider idea of Dame trades. I'll start with a Heat trade idea;

$3.5 million #18 pick selected yesterday Jaime Jaquez Jr
$29.6 million Kyle Lowry expiring contract
$9.4 million Victor Oladipo expiring contract
Two 1st round picks unprotected 2027 and 2029
Three 1st round pick swaps unprotected in 2026, 2028, and 2030
Two 2nd round picks in 2026 and 2029

$45.6 million Dame trade - saves the Blazers about $2-3 million. Gives Blazers control of Heats unprotected picks for 5 years in 2026-2030.

Other players to be acquired instead would be Herro or Robinson salary, I'd prefer the expiring contracts above instead of those overpaid deals.

If Blazers want a third first round pick a much less valuable 2025 pick that is the lesser of multiple teams selections can be acquired then routed to Miami to free up all of Miami 2026 2028 2030 picks to be traded unprotected instead. Then add swaps in 2027 and 2029
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Garbage.
 
Actually I realized that initial 2026 swap probably isn't possible 100% of the time as the Blazers don't fully control their own pick due to Chicago possibly having it. Blazers could do a swap dependent on them keeping the pick, but that removes the upside if its the first year the Blazers make the playoffs and the Heat are bad. So the Blazers would need to somehow get a 2026 pick in that scenario to be able to swap... Probably makes more sense to just somehow get the Heat a terrible 2025 1st round pick so the Stephen rule frees up the Heats 2026 pick to go to Portland unprotected.
 
Chris Craig said:
Garbage.
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Only player for next season would be yesterdays #18 pick, so if your a fan that wants immediate players help in return no this is not a good package.

But potentially controlling 5 years of Heat picks unprotected when Dame and Butler are nearly 40 could be one of the greatest draft asset returns in NBA history.

Also free's up massive salary for the Blazers to make other moves next summer and the 3 years after that.

Yeah there's some risk the picks won't be as valuable as we hope, but theres also the potential reward they are vastly more valuable than we expect.

I'm open to other ideas, thats the point of this thread. Brooklyn is the other team most often mentioned. But the above is basically the max offer we could get from the Heat as far as I can tell.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Only player for next season would be yesterdays #18 pick, so if your a fan that wants immediate players help in return no this is not a good package.

But potentially controlling 5 years of Heat picks unprotected when Dame and Butler are nearly 40 could be one of the greatest draft asset returns in NBA history.

Also free's up massive salary for the Blazers to make other moves next summer and the 3 years after that.

Yeah there's some risk the picks won't be as valuable as we hope, but theres also the potential reward they are vastly more valuable than we expect.

I'm open to other ideas, thats the point of this thread. Brooklyn is the other team most often mentioned. But the above is basically the max offer we could get from the Heat as far as I can tell.
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33 is not nearly 40. Smh.

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Haven't we done this to death?

Basically Miami is the main suitor but makes no sense to us. The only place that is vaguely plausible is Brooklyn, but we'd want Bridges and that's the one guy they'd want to keep. So you're left with something like this:

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Plus a SHIT TON of picks

(Kind of hilarious that according to that, we come out winners in that trade)
 
Natebishop3 said:
Hmmm.... no future picks though?
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I was just listing the current assets that would be needed to match salaries up. I'll leave it to the experts to determine what future picks would be necessary to balance value.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Haven't we done this to death?

Basically Miami is the main suitor but makes no sense to us. The only place that is vaguely plausible is Brooklyn, but we'd want Bridges and that's the one guy they'd want to keep. So you're left with something like this:

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Plus a SHIT TON of picks

(Kind of hilarious that according to that, we come out winners in that trade)
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In an alternate universe we probably made that trade, got those players and the phoenix 1s and Simmons returned to previous all nba form, Claxton became dominant and the suns picks turned into high lottery picks that sustained a Portland dynasty.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Haven't we done this to death?

Basically Miami is the main suitor but makes no sense to us. The only place that is vaguely plausible is Brooklyn, but we'd want Bridges and that's the one guy they'd want to keep. So you're left with something like this:

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Plus a SHIT TON of picks

(Kind of hilarious that according to that, we come out winners in that trade)
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I want cam johnson s&t instead of simmons at 15-20 mil + claxton + 2 picks + 2 swaps.
 
illmatic99 said:
I want cam johnson s&t instead of simmons at 15-20 mil + claxton + 2 picks + 2 swaps.
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I'm curious who Dame would want to keep on the Nets to try to win now. Would he rather have Simmons or would he rather have Johnson?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm curious who Dame would want to keep on the Nets to try to win now. Would he rather have Simmons or would he rather have Johnson?
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I don’t think anyone wants Simmons and if we are taking him back they gotta take Nurk and give us something else.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Haven't we done this to death?

Basically Miami is the main suitor but makes no sense to us. The only place that is vaguely plausible is Brooklyn, but we'd want Bridges and that's the one guy they'd want to keep. So you're left with something like this:

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Plus a SHIT TON of picks

(Kind of hilarious that according to that, we come out winners in that trade)
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I don't understand why we'd want Claxton next season - I'd rather get an extra pick. He makes much more sense for Brooklyn to win now. Then Claxton will be on a huge contract so we could just sign him outright if we want, although I don't know that's the best use of cap space.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because Dame doesn't want to go to a team that's going to be bad.
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I don't know Cam Johnson matters either way, but I'm probably lower on him than most.

If they're getting Dame they need to keep all the win now players - we get their picks and youth. It makes much more sense that way for both teams. They can also give us those two guys they picked right before us last night. Actually might make the salary matching easier if we were to finalize a trade in 30 days.
 
If we can somehow end up with OG, Cam, Claxton and a bunch of picks for Dame/ Ant/ Nurk and let Grant walk, we could be looking at:

Scoot/ Sharpe/ OG/ Cam/ Claxton

Or hell, try to get Cam and Ayton while keeping Grant.

Scoot / Sharpe / Cam / Grant / Ayton

That team could win 30-40 games or so and be hella fun to watch develop. Add the right lottery pick in one more cycle, and maybe we start looking for a plyoff spot in 25. Don't think our FO has the guts to do it, but fun to think about anyway.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm curious who Dame would want to keep on the Nets to try to win now. Would he rather have Simmons or would he rather have Johnson?
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let him have both. Go for Harris and Dinwiddie and then re-route them to other teams for draft capital.
 
So I think that the Nets are the team to trade Dame to but I don't love the idea of Claxton being the most valuable player we get back and him being on an expiring so here is a three team trade idea that provides us a little more insurance.

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I was very happy management went with the BPA in their evaluation and not with the trade for vets so Dame can win a championship pipe dream many were pumping daily here. I do believe Cronin when he says it's not his intention to trade Lillard, but I think he would acquiese if Dame requested one. PR wise, it would be very tough for Cronin to survive long if he blindsided such a popular player with a trade. So if he's to be moved, it's on Dame that it happens.

Supposing if Dame wants out today, whats his best route for getting to a situation he likes? Publically demanding it so that Portland's leverage is completely lost might get him to such a situation but it would also earn him a lot of criticisms from the fanbase he's cultivated such a close relationship with. Doing it low key behind the sceens makes more sense as he won't spend days as a lead story about being just another entitled athlete. I also think doing it closer to the trade deadline makes more sense as he'd get to see how the Blazers are doing this year and more importantly which team(s) is lacking just him to really contend.

If he is to be traded, I would think the value coming back the Blazers way would be mostly in draft capitol with some bad contracts attached to match salaries.

STOMP
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Honestly I'd probably rather have Claxton :lol:
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I would too if he wasn't on an expiring contract. That just worries me too much so if we could swing it I'd get a guy who is locked up for a while and has more talent even if he is less consistent.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Haven't we done this to death?

Basically Miami is the main suitor but makes no sense to us. The only place that is vaguely plausible is Brooklyn, but we'd want Bridges and that's the one guy they'd want to keep. So you're left with something like this:

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Plus a SHIT TON of picks

(Kind of hilarious that according to that, we come out winners in that trade)
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This is really the best case trade scenario.
 
blazerkor said:
So I think that the Nets are the team to trade Dame to but I don't love the idea of Claxton being the most valuable player we get back and him being on an expiring so here is a three team trade idea that provides us a little more insurance.

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Terrible.

Did you see the estimated difference of games won for Phoenix?
Ayton is not worth his contract. I'd immediately cut the Suns out of the trade.
 
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