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I really hope Joe gets creative with a 3 team trade, Herro/Jovic/Jaquez/27&29 1s isn’t that awesome. I do like Jaques though. Herro has to be sent somewhere for a Big. Would Orlando want him?
 
LayneStaley said:
I really hope Joe gets creative with a 3 team trade, Herro/Jovic/Jaquez/27&29 1s isn’t that awesome. I do like Jaques though. Herro has to be sent somewhere for a Big. Would Orlando want him?
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Jovic and Jaquez would be nice
 
How would you feel about this?

Heat get: Dame ($45m), Grant ($30m, S&T)

Blazers get: Bam ($32m), Robinson ($18m), Lowry ($28m), 2 future unprotected 1sts

They can keep Herro, I’m not at all interested. Bam is someone who can erase Scoot and Shae’s defensive mistakes. Scoot is so stout that he looks like he could as good as Davion Mitchell is on defense if he’s encouraged to be a stopper.

Make sure a return for Dame can be a major piece to building our identity. We need to build a defensive culture—Herro and scraps don’t help with that.
 
If we pull the Dame trade they should S@T Grant to Cle for Allen. Fits the timeline and seems perfect for Scoot/Sharpe.
 
wizenheimer said:
why in hell would Portland Trade for KAT after trading Dame? geeeeezuzzz
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Towns could sit out the season, not complain about it, rack up credit at Voodoo Donuts, and the Blazers tank for a pick.
 
BankTeller said:
How would you feel about this?

Heat get: Dame ($45m), Grant ($30m, S&T)

Blazers get: Bam ($32m), Robinson ($18m), Lowry ($28m), 2 future unprotected 1sts

They can keep Herro, I’m not at all interested. Bam is someone who can erase Scoot and Shae’s defensive mistakes. Scoot is so stout that he looks like he could as good as Davion Mitchell is on defense if he’s encouraged to be a stopper.

Make sure a return for Dame can be a major piece to building our identity. We need to build a defensive culture—Herro and scraps don’t help with that.
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I hate all of the scenarios where Dame goes. I think if Dame is asking to go to Miami he wants to be there with Bam. Bam is the reason that Dame started talking about wanting to play with a super athletic big after the Olympics. That being said Bam is the only thing that the Heat have that is close to being a worthy return for Dame.

I honestly think that the Nets will be the landing place if we unfortunately have to move Dame.
 
blazerkor said:
I hate all of the scenarios where Dame goes. I think if Dame is asking to go to Miami he wants to be there with Bam. Bam is the reason that Dame started talking about wanting to play with a super athletic big after the Olympics. That being said Bam is the only thing that the Heat have that is close to being a worthy return for Dame.

I honestly think that the Nets will be the landing place if we unfortunately have to move Dame.
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Maybe I'm confused, but why is the entire universe convinced that it's Miami or bust?

This entire thing came from one interview where the interviewer gave Dame a short list of teams and Dame mentioned that he liked Miami and Brooklyn.

But somehow, from that, the entire world outside of Portland is convinced that Dame already has his bags packed for Miami.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Chad and Dwight think NY makes sense.

They certainly have a lot of picks. I wonder if we could send Brunson somewhere else.

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NY wouldn't trade Brunson, they love him more than any player since Porzingis and probably more than him as well as more than Melo.

Brunson has arguably accomplished more in the playoffs than Dame; so I'm not sure thats even an upgrade.

Would have to be a way of them having Dame+Brunson.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Maybe I'm confused, but why is the entire universe convinced that it's Miami or bust?

This entire thing came from one interview where the interviewer gave Dame a short list of teams and Dame mentioned that he liked Miami and Brooklyn.

But somehow, from that, the entire world outside of Portland is convinced that Dame already has his bags packed for Miami.
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Yeah I don't think Dame would want to go to Miami - a team that was in the finals, the ECF the year prior, the finals two years before that, and has won 3 championships the last two decades. He wins a title there and he'd still be ranked lower than LeBron, Wade, Shaq, Butler, and Bam. He might even be ranked lower than Chris Bosh/Ray Allen/ Udonis Haslem.

Brooklyn or NY make much more sense. He goes there and wins a title hes imortalized. Not as much as here, that would be the biggest moment, but it just doesn't seem plausible any more. He'd want a similar type of place where it was a real moment and not just ring chasing. Maybe a dark horse team like Orlando if another allstar can come with him. Dame would want to be on more of an underdog team IMO, but one thats still a legit playoff and possible HCA team. He doesn't want to follow the Durant ring hoping circuit.
 
Criteria for Dame trade

1. Dame has got to want to play for that team ( he’s earned that right and no way the organization screws him over) so trying to make a trade to a team that isn’t close to being a contender is not going to happen.
2. Team must have draft picks available or involve a 3rd team.
3 have to have a contract/contracts that are close to Dames
4. Team we trade with isn’t going to want to give up any of their key players or it defeats the purpose of trading for Dame.
5. Team we trade with needs to have 1 or 2 good young players coming back to Blazers

if any of this criteria isn’t met then the trade with that team most likely won’t happen.
 
Re-sign Grant and give Draymond Green an offer, that will keep Dame in Portland
 
ESPN insider has a couple Dame trade ideas. I like the Brooklyn offer much more, but that 2029 pick from Phoenix should stay completely unprotected.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...s-including-getting-damian-lillard-east-coast

Dame (Eastern) Time
Brooklyn Nets get:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic
Portland Trail Blazers get:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Nicolas Claxton
Royce O'Neale
Joe Harris
2025 first-round pick (via Phoenix)
2027 first-round pick (via Phoenix)
2029 first-round pick (via Phoenix; top-3 protected)


... What a team like Miami could offer
Miami Heat get:
Damian Lillard
Portland Trail Blazers get:
Tyler Herro
Duncan Robinson
Nikola Jovic
Draft rights to Jaime Jaquez Jr. (No. 18, 2023)
2028 first-round pick
2029 pick swap
2030 first-round pick
 
I wonder though if it would be better to let Brooklyn keep Claxton and those other vets - but we take Ben Simmons - while we get another 1st round pick or two instead.
 
DDolla said:
Re-sign Grant and give Draymond Green an offer, that will keep Dame in Portland
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Green would likely require us to give up at least Ant if not more. Can that Blazers team contend with Green? I just really doubt it. I love the idea of Dame staying if I think with my heart but if I think logically with my brain I question if the team is better off just trying to go for a trade and move on.

In two seasons would you rather have;

35 year old Dame making $60 million 35 year old Draymond @ $40 million 31 year old Jusuf @ $20 million
or
26 year old Ant @ $25 million 26 year old Claxton @ $20 million Dinwiddle ONeal 3 unprotected picks

Seems like the Draymond contract could become a real boat anchor in a few years and likely not have us winning anything significant in the next immediate two years. Its one thing to have a single player on a boat anchor contract, and a guy who is our greatest player in team history, ok I can live with wasting some millions there. But if we start losing out on possible young assets and paying Draymond 30-40 million, along with also paying Dame $60+ million as his deal becomes overpaid - were really preventing this team from having any path to build around Scoot/Sharpe/etc and the future.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I wonder though if it would be better to let Brooklyn keep Claxton and those other vets - but we take Ben Simmons - while we get another 1st round pick or two instead.
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I'd rather have Simmons over Dinwiddie, Harris, or Oneil... Even if there were no additional picks included.
 
I don't believe Brooklyn will get Dame by only trading 3 future first's. They'd likely have to pony up more and they won't be adding protections. Miami could theoretically offer 3 first's
 
wizenheimer said:
I don't believe Brooklyn will get Dame by only trading 3 future first's. They'd likely have to pony up more and they won't be adding protections. Miami could theoretically offer 3 first's
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How could Miami trade 3?

I believe you said 2026 is contingent, so 2027 can't be traded. So they can only freely trade 2028 and 2030.

They could word the trade so if 2025 conveys then Blazers get 2027 and 2029 picks - but thats still only two picks.
 
All I know is that IF you trade Dame, you'd better tell the other team to bring as many 2026 1sts to the table as they're able to. That's the draft you want to cash in on, not the 24 or 25 poo-poo platter.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
ESPN insider has a couple Dame trade ideas. I like the Brooklyn offer much more, but that 2029 pick from Phoenix should stay completely unprotected.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...s-including-getting-damian-lillard-east-coast

Dame (Eastern) Time
Brooklyn Nets get:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic
Portland Trail Blazers get:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Nicolas Claxton
Royce O'Neale
Joe Harris
2025 first-round pick (via Phoenix)
2027 first-round pick (via Phoenix)
2029 first-round pick (via Phoenix; top-3 protected)


... What a team like Miami could offer
Miami Heat get:
Damian Lillard
Portland Trail Blazers get:
Tyler Herro
Duncan Robinson
Nikola Jovic
Draft rights to Jaime Jaquez Jr. (No. 18, 2023)
2028 first-round pick
2029 pick swap
2030 first-round pick
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Miami needs to blow it up.... its was pure luck they got as far as they did.

Portland gets - Bam & Butler
Miami - gets AnF - Nurk, Murray, Johnson & Scoot

Next years line up
Dame & Shaedon
Bam
Butler & Grant
fill ins off the bench
 
SharpesTriumph said:
How could Miami trade 3?

I believe you said 2026 is contingent, so 2027 can't be traded. So they can only freely trade 2028 and 2030.

They could word the trade so if 2025 conveys then Blazers get 2027 and 2029 picks - but thats still only two picks.
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they could send OKC a 2nd to just take 2026 unprotected. Right now they might get a much worse pick in 2025. That would open up the 2024 first. Of course, that first won't have much value since it would likely be so late in the draft

but it's immediacy might have more value than an amorphous 2029 first
 
SharpesTriumph said:
ESPN insider has a couple Dame trade ideas. I like the Brooklyn offer much more, but that 2029 pick from Phoenix should stay completely unprotected.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...s-including-getting-damian-lillard-east-coast

Dame (Eastern) Time
Brooklyn Nets get:
Damian Lillard
Jusuf Nurkic
Portland Trail Blazers get:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Nicolas Claxton
Royce O'Neale
Joe Harris
2025 first-round pick (via Phoenix)
2027 first-round pick (via Phoenix)
2029 first-round pick (via Phoenix; top-3 protected)


... What a team like Miami could offer
Miami Heat get:
Damian Lillard
Portland Trail Blazers get:
Tyler Herro
Duncan Robinson
Nikola Jovic
Draft rights to Jaime Jaquez Jr. (No. 18, 2023)
2028 first-round pick
2029 pick swap
2030 first-round pick
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I would much rather take the Nets deal. I would consider taking Simmons instead of Claxton and collecting as many 1sts as possible.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So I'm curious..... we just assume that we want to move Herro if the Heat trade happens.

Who would you rather have, Simons or Herro? Obviously one of them would have to go.
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If Lillard is gone, would like to see them both moved for draft picks.
 
When Dame previously said no to Boston that was in the context of Brown possibly leaving and having a chance of being acquired by Portland. But now it sounds like Brown is staying in Boston and getting an extension.

I wonder if that dynamic has changed to where Dame would consider Boston to join Brown?

We could take on Brogdon's contract with his injury issues and maybe Time Lord or some other smaller salary. Boston I think has all their picks, so could potentially give us 4 unprotected firsts and a swap or something.

Even if we ultimately prefer a Nets or different teams offer, having a team such as Boston with real assets to make a competitive offer can help the Blazers get a better return if they do need to trade Dame.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
When Dame previously said no to Boston that was in the context of Brown possibly leaving and having a chance of being acquired by Portland. But now it sounds like Brown is staying in Boston and getting an extension.

I wonder if that dynamic has changed to where Dame would consider Boston to join Brown?

We could take on Brogdon's contract with his injury issues and maybe Time Lord or some other smaller salary. Boston I think has all their picks, so could potentially give us 4 unprotected firsts and a swap or something.

Even if we ultimately prefer a Nets or different teams offer, having a team such as Boston with real assets to make a competitive offer can help the Blazers get a better return if they do need to trade Dame.
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I don't think that's it. There were rumors that AD wouldn't go to Boston either. I think there have been hints that the players don't like the city. Haynes shut the idea down completely.
 
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