Zombie Damian Lillard to request trade in coming days (nope, he's not.)

[PCmor7]

Dame is the loyal spouse who's partner continues to do less and less to hold up their end of the relationship. Loyal people get divorces all the time.

A better analogy would be the loyal spouse who married someone they thought was going to be Beyonce someday but turned out to be an aging Wanda Sykes.

Like, seriously, people are acting like the Blazers had all this draft capital and trade resources and frittered them all away and that Portland was this free agent destination and we blew it with all the guys who wanted to come here.

There were bad moves, of course, but most organizations make bad moves. There's less room for error with the Blazers, but, at the same time, the team hasn't been trash, either.

And, FTR, I'll say I'm skeptical of this latest rumor, too.

 

[riverman]

I'm starting the rumor that Dame has told Jody he's buying the Blazers with Lebron, Melo, CP3, Charles Barkley and a few other notable NBA greats....don't worry about the short term picture...we'll sell you the team and Paul Allen's recording studio in Hollywood...by the way Dame...the team comes with a yacht and a submarine

 

[Tince]

Like, seriously, people are acting like the Blazers had all this draft capital and trade resources and frittered them all away and that Portland was this free agent destination and we blew it with all the guys who wanted to come here.

Who is responsible for the Blazers lack of draft capital and trade resources? They were frittered away by Olshey in the past, so why should this be used as an excuse for him now? He made this bed, so he must lay in it!

 

[Chris Craig]

I'm starting the rumor that Dame has told Jody he's buying the Blazers with Lebron, Melo, CP3, Charles Barkley and a few other notable NBA greats....don't worry about the short term picture...we'll sell you the team and Paul Allen's recording studio in Hollywood...by the way Dame...the team comes with a yacht and a submarine

I'll write an article. You can be my "source"

 

[julius]

Philly will have an easier time getting ring chasers in the near future.

with what money?
They'll need to re-sign Joel Embiid soon and his cap hold eats their cap space in 2 years, and Tobias Harris's contract ain't small either.

 

[Mr. Robot]

If you trade CJ for a comparable player you can trade that player for youth and/or picks if you decide to blow it up

yes, but my belief is that the blazers wouldnt want full rebuild, they would want to remain competitive

they would be able to do so without dame, but not without dame and cj mccollum and thats why i dont believe cj mccollum trade will happen without dames commitment to the team

 

[PCmor7]

Who is responsible for the Blazers lack of draft capital and trade resources? They were frittered away by Olshey in the past, so why should be used as an excuse for him now? He made this bed, so he must lay in it!

Again, your blind anger makes you miss the point. You're acting like the Blazers have alllllllllll this going for them that they can just trade for difference-makers and sign difference-makers and good role-players are going to come to Portland for less money.

Want to be disappointed with Olshey? OK, I can get that. Acting like Olshey destroyed the organization, though, that's ridiculous. He made a lot of lukewarm moves. However, no one can seriously believe there were a lot of big moves the Blazers had the options to make, either.

If Dame really is upset about this, and I have my doubts that he is, then he's living in a fantasy world, too, and all that loyalty stuff was just rampant fakeness and he plays a role in the bed that was made, too. I don't think he's as unrealistic as the fans ... being disappointed and pretending he married something he didn't are two vastly different things. I'm not an Olshey fan, either. I've criticized him a lot. I just tend to be more realistic.

I'm tired of board meltdowns every other day that we get a new rumor from random Twitter account or Dame's chef's uncle's neighbor's cousin. Dame said he piece. If he's lying publicly, then that speaks poorly for him.

 

[julius]

Why would it be something he tells his brother to completely lock down? There's no massive revelations or actionable secrets here. If it's true, all his brother said was that Lillard is extremely unhappy and it sounds like his brother thinks Lillard is all but done. That's not a particularly strange conversation, if it happened.

Because he's made a point of saying if you don't hear it from him, it wasn't said. Because it's a really dumb business decision for his brother to tell everyone stuff that Damian supposedly said.

 

[julius]

He would play with the best player he has ever played with. I'm sure Dame would be upset but know he tried since it sure as hell doesn't seem like we have any chance to get anyone near as good as Embiid for him. Injury prone or not. Dame is at that age now where regret is on his mind. Dude really wants to win one.

I still would prefer to try to work something out with Boston for Jaylen Brown instead if Simmons.

He might be the best player he's never played with, but they're not beating the Bucks or the Nets.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

He might be the best player he's never played with, but they're not beating the Bucks or the Nets.

Maybe not but he would have a better chance with Embiid than with us.

 

[Cugel]

Cj could absolutely be dealt for a player that fits better.

 

[Tince]

Again, your blind anger makes you miss the point. You're acting like the Blazers have alllllllllll this going for them that they can just trade for difference-makers and sign difference-makers and good role-players are going to come to Portland for less money.

Want to be disappointed with Olshey? OK, I can get that. Acting like Olshey destroyed the organization, though, that's ridiculous. He made a lot of lukewarm moves. However, no one can seriously believe there were a lot of big moves the Blazers had the options to make, either.

If Dame really is upset about this, and I have my doubts that he is, then he's living in a fantasy world, too, and all that loyalty stuff was just rampant fakeness and he plays a role in the bed that was made, too. I don't think he's as unrealistic as the fans ... being disappointed and pretending he married something he didn't are two vastly different things. I'm not an Olshey fan, either. I've criticized him a lot. I just tend to be more realistic.

I'm tired of board meltdowns every other day that we get a new rumor from random Twitter account or Dame's chef's uncle's neighbor's cousin. Dame said he piece. If he's lying publicly, then that speaks poorly for him.

I'm not angry at all, nor am I having any meltdowns. I haven't said Olshey ruined the entire organization, just that he impacts the success of this team more than the coach. It seems you want to say Olshey is handcuffed, but don't want to take a step back and understand why he's handcuffed.

Who do you think is responsible for all the players on this roster, our cap situation, and our past/future draft pick situation? I don't think saying Olshey is responsible is that far fetched.

 

[Mr. Robot]

lets hope simmons & klutch want out and dont want to go to the blazers, so it makes the blazers unwilling to make that trade

sure, he could get traded elsewhere, but for now, lets get rid of the biggest problem

 

[Chris Craig]

with what money?
They'll need to re-sign Joel Embiid soon and his cap hold eats their cap space in 2 years, and Tobias Harris's contract ain't small either.

Harris will be expiring in a year or two. They will be better able to get players to come for cheap than Portland.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Cj could absolutely be dealt for a player that fits better.

Such as? Give me an example--any example--and I'll guarantee a compelling reason why the other side might not be interested has already been posted on this board, likely multiple times.

 

[Mr. Robot]

i seriously doubt dame talks with his family about what hes going to do, unless its 100% done deal and theres no going back, so his brother possibly took something out of context, maybe dame said something like: "im not happy, were not good, this is going nowhere etc" and then his brother made his conclusion, which can, but it doesnt have to be the right one... dame has been very diplomatic, he sees himself with the blazers next season, but hasnt made firm decision on his future

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Dame lying publicly? What? He made it pretty clear in his interview before leaving for the Olympics he wasn't ok with our roster staying the same. It pretty much has. And in his mind probably got worse without Melo who he adored.

 

[Phatguysrule]

yes, but my belief is that the blazers wouldnt want full rebuild, they would want to remain competitive

they would be able to do so without dame, but not without dame and cj mccollum and thats why i dont believe cj mccollum trade will happen without dames commitment to the team

If you trade CJ for a comparable player and want to remain competitive you'll trade Dame for something similar and should also be able to remain competitive

 

[Hoopguru]

first of all, its stupid to speak about loyalty in sports (cause you never know what can happen in the future and dames going through it now), but i simply cant accept that, theres literally no player in the league that has spoken about loyalty as much as he has and he will get roasted by the nba fans if he bolts and rightfully so (but not as much as lebron or durant as no-one expects dame to lead the blazers to the championship)... he wanted to win the chip with the blazers and still do, but now he realizes hes 31 yo and that its very likely that it wont happen, but you know, its easy to be loyal when its all good and when youre young and not thinking about later stages of your career, but loyalty is tested when tough times come, cause its then when you show your true colors and theres no doubt dame lillard will show his (i cant even imagine him wanting out, hed become such a hypocrite)

I tend to agree…Dame will not play games. Seems he would have asked by now if he wanted out this year.

 

[Mr. Robot]

If you trade CJ for a comparable player and want to remain competitive you'll trade Dame for something similar and should also be able to remain competitive

if we trade cj mccollum for siakam and dame for simmons, im not sure simmons, powell, siakam and nurk is competitive team... defensively could be great, but not enough offense in that team, none of these guys is good for a leading role

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If you trade CJ for a comparable player and want to remain competitive you'll trade Dame for something similar and should also be able to remain competitive

Possibly even more able, if CJ is able to elevate consistently to the level of play he's demonstrated whenever he's started at PG in Dame's absence.

 

[blazerkor]

I tend to agree…Dame will not play games. Seems he would have asked by now if he wanted out this year.

He said he isn't talking to the media about this stuff anymore, just Neil. So who knows what he has and hasn't said to Neil.

I tend to believe that what a couple of reports said is true. Dame promised to give Chauncey a chance. I think that means if he is really pissed, which he should be, that he'll give the team a month or two; if they haven't made a blockbuster deal get him all star help or aren't blowing away the competition with this current roster, he'll ask to be traded by the deadline.

Who the fuck knows? Maybe he's gone tomorrow for pieces to go with the rest of the current roster (yuck!), maybe he's gone tomorrow and the roster is completely turned over by the beginning of the season, maybe he's here for the rest of his career or just gets strung along until next off season. I sure don't know.

 

[wizenheimer]

in the last couple of pages, I'm seeing a few people excusing Olshey's inaction and some others start to trash Dame for yet another rumor

Dame might be thinking with fans like these, who needs enemies

 

[Natebishop3]

If the fans are furious about our offseason, I can only imagine how Dame feels.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If the fans are furious about our offseason, I can only imagine how Dame feels.

I think Dame is smarter than most fans.

 

[Phatguysrule]

if we trade cj mccollum for siakam and dame for simmons, im not sure simmons, powell, siakam and nurk is competitive team... defensively could be great, but not enough offense in that team, none of these guys is good for a leading role

I could see that team being an 8 seed.

 

[blazerkor]

in the last couple of pages, I'm seeing a few people excusing Olshey's inaction and some others start to trash Dame for yet another rumor

Dame might be thinking with fans like these, who needs enemies

People who identify as Blazers fans but trash Dame are fucking idiots. People that do that have absolutely no impact on Dame. Not on his attitude. Not on his future plans. They just don't have an impact on him. He's said as much. Give Dame some credit and realize the vast majority of Blazers fans worship the guy and he feels it... he's said so as recently as that presser before Japan in relation to the Kidd/Billups blowback.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I could see that team being an 8 seed.

Simmons/Powell/Siakam/Roco/Nurk is an 8 seed?

I guess there would be a leadership vacuum there, but I'd love to see other teams try to score on that squad.

On the other hand...

if we trade cj mccollum for siakam and dame for simmons,

If we can trade CJ for Siakam, there would be no need to trade Dame

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I love all your speculation. I get it. “I think this.” “I don’t think that.” I get it - part of being a fan.

None of you have any real clue what the reality is, and I’m not going to burn time trying to carve through this mess of speculation, social media comments, and media speculation.

I’m going to follow along, watch the bickering and brief meltdowns, and enjoy my popcorn and wait for something real to happen.

In the meantime, I’m enjoying that you guys have learned little from all the rhetoric and misinformation in the political scene and haven’t made the correlation it’s happening across the sports scene, as well.

Giddy up, FAMS!

 

[wizenheimer]

If we can trade CJ for Siakam, there would be no need to trade Dame

LOL...there is that!