Rumor Damian Lillard Would Like Blazers To Acquire Deandre Ayton

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Would You Do It and Would The Sun?

  • I would want us to do this

    Votes: 18 39.1%

  • I wouldn't want us to do this

    Votes: 19 41.3%

  • The Suns would do this

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • The Suns would not do this

    Votes: 13 28.3%
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blazerkor said:
Would you rather have OG so much that you'd give up the 7th and the TPE or would you only do it if the Raptors took Bledsoe along with the 7th?

If your answer is Bledsoe then we could do both.
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Bledsoe.

But I was more just giving my opinion of which player I would covet more.

I could see Ayton coming to Portland being no better than Nurkic.
 
just say no to Ayton, especially at the cost of Hart. I don't believe Dame is pushing hard for this and it's just a parroted rumor based upon speculation rather than real sourcing

Ayton may be worth 20M/year...maybe...but I wouldn't pay it. He's sure as fuck not worth 34M/year....that just purely stupid

one other thing, this would be Dame essentially stabbing Nurkic in the back. I'd be really surprised if he did that
 
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blazerkor said:
That's an interesting take on Ayton. I think he is so much more athletic and probably more of a beast than our Bosnian friend on both ends of the court.
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i think they’re fairly even defensively. I think playing with Chris Paul makes adequate players look much better offensively.

I just think upgrading/bolstering the wing is more of a priority than possibly a slight upgrade at Center.
 
MickZagger said:
Bledsoe.

But I was more just giving my opinion of which player I would covet more.

I could see Ayton coming to Portland being no better than Nurkic.
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I think Ayton is better and I know Ayton is younger. I’m in. Esp if we get Crowder in the deal.
 
So I'm reading this thread and I take away that we could trade Nurk (In a heartbeat) Hart, Bledsoe (Who has never played here) and a couple picks and we get-
DeAndre Ayton
Jae Crowder
and
OG Anunoby

To put along side of Lillard, Simons, Nassir Little, Joe Ingles (remember that guy), Keon Johnson, Drew Eubanks, Greg Brown, Trendon Watford, Winslow, CJ Elleby

Looking at that roster? How could you say that isn't a huge upgrade?
That roster might even compete?

Remember- This is all possible at this point. Maybe not probable but certainly possible.
Are we all still calling Joe Cronin a bad GM?
 
Ayton has All Star potential. Nurk would never get a single vote. Dame has to be helped out with all star caliber players. Look at the finals: Curry Wiggins Klay Green. Those are all nba guys. Smart Tatum Brown also all nba guys. You have to take chances. GSW took a huge chance on Wiggins and it paid off.

That said Phx would laugh at this. Why would they want Nurk?
 
Cugel said:
Why would they want Nurk?
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Was my first question. However, Remember Ayton would not even play at the end of that playoff series. He is not real happy where he happens to be right now.
At least that is the word i have read?
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Was my first question. However, Remember Ayton would not even play at the end of that playoff series. He is not real happy where he happens to be right now.
At least that is the word i have read?
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Hence the risk of blowing a chunk of cash on him. I like to think Dame could change his attitude but I know that is wishful thinking.
 
So Damian wants Grant, OG, Ayton, McGee and LaVine.

It's almost as if agents are using Portlands cap space AND the implied notion that the team is desperate to improve, to benefit their own clients.

no....
 
Cugel said:
Ayton has All Star potential. Nurk would never get a single vote. Dame has to be helped out with all star caliber players. Look at the finals: Curry Wiggins Klay Green. Those are all nba guys. Smart Tatum Brown also all nba guys. You have to take chances. GSW took a huge chance on Wiggins and it paid off.

That said Phx would laugh at this. Why would they want Nurk?
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I guess if you think that Nurk isn't worth 17M then this deal would be laughable to Phoenix but the word is they have no interest in paying Ayton the max but not that they don't value bigs at all. Getting Nurk for around half the price, getting Hart, a future first and a future second would be good enough value for a signed and traded Ayton and Crowder but only if Phoenix is still interested in retaining a traditional big.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
So I'm reading this thread and I take away that we could trade Nurk (In a heartbeat) Hart, Bledsoe (Who has never played here) and a couple picks and we get-
DeAndre Ayton
Jae Crowder
and
OG Anunoby

To put along side of Lillard, Simons, Nassir Little, Joe Ingles (remember that guy), Keon Johnson, Drew Eubanks, Greg Brown, Trendon Watford, Winslow, CJ Elleby

Looking at that roster? How could you say that isn't a huge upgrade?
That roster might even compete?

Remember- This is all possible at this point. Maybe not probable but certainly possible.
Are we all still calling Joe Cronin a bad GM?
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Joe has given himself a lot of hypothetical ways that he might make up for two trades in which he gave up talent for flexibility as a small market GM. If he makes some of those hypotheticals real or even one good enough hypothetical a reality that this team is better than it was season before last then no he's not a bad GM and the rest of us didn't have the vision he did.

If he comes away from this off season with the a player we take at 7 and players we already had on the roster re-signed along with an injured Ingles then he's a shitty GM and if he comes away with that scenario but just switching out the seventh pick for Grant he's even fucking shittier.

I'm really hopeful that he had vision that those of us that criticized him didn't and that we'll come out of this off season better than we would have been last season with a healthy Dame and some minor tweaks but that's not our reality at the moment and will take some deals that take the steps forward after the step backwards that Joe talked about after the February trades.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Why do we have to include Hart and Crowder? Do you think they would prefer Hart to Crowder?
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Without doing that the trade doesn't work under the CBA because of BYC shit. We can't take back Gobert's 30M for Nurk's 17M because we don't have the cap space to do that... unless we just let Hart walk, Ingles walk and all we do in the draft is pick and keep the 7th pick. We would also lose 13M of our big TPE because a lopsided trade eats into the biggest TPE you have just like signing new free agents does.

So if Nurk a future first, a future second, Hart and Ingles (without a way to replace them) and the TPE are worth Ayton, then we could definitely do that.

To answer your second question, I'm not sure they would prefer Hart to Crowder but he's younger and there isn't a huge talent discrepancy. The difference that I see is that Crowder can float between SF and small ball PF while Hart is an SG/SF that isn't probably as effective as a small ball PF.
 
One thing I'm constantly reminded of when I read the "Dame wants an athletic center" or "Dame wants to play with Ayton" is the underlying idea that Dame doesn't want to play with Nurk. If he has made his wishes that clear, I'm not sure how Nurk will react if he's back as the starting center next year.
 
Just yesterday the local talker was saying the Suns think they can play center by committee (McGee, Biyombo, Saric). No talk about Nurk, who I have inferred the Suns have zero interest in. Hart, believe it or not, would be highly coveted. They want to find another ball handler that can also get minutes at the 2. They are not happy with Cam Payne or Landry Shamet and would probably try to unload one of them in an Ayton deal. They are not looking for a player the draft, but have held workouts despite not having a pick in case of an Ayton deal. It is being reported a future asset or two would be preferred. Again, this is just off of the local talker here.
 
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And the painfully obvious point to be had, if there is truth to this rumor, is that some players/coaches value centers that can be dominating. Ayton, in Portland, would be incredible. Of course they would have to get the video game/lack of sleep worked out.
 
blazerkor said:
Joe has given himself a lot of hypothetical ways that he might make up for two trades in which he gave up talent for flexibility as a small market GM. If he makes some of those hypotheticals real or even one good enough hypothetical a reality that this team is better than it was season before last then no he's not a bad GM and the rest of us didn't have the vision he did.
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Wow.....
You are almost being reasonable with Mr. C here.
Just remember, it takes two to tango. Just if it doesn't happen, doesn't mean he didn't try or want it to.
Can't praise or criticize a hypothetical, right?
Right.
 
Dame just wants the Blazers to do something more then get a bum like Bledsoe and small pieces that will help him get a ring. I think at this point he would take anyone with a pulse who has talent and HE thinks can fit with him so that list of names is way longer then that but these are just names that MIGHT be available for the right price.
 
blazerkor said:
Joe has given himself a lot of hypothetical ways that he might make up for two trades in which he gave up talent for flexibility as a small market GM. If he makes some of those hypotheticals real or even one good enough hypothetical a reality that this team is better than it was season before last then no he's not a bad GM and the rest of us didn't have the vision he did.
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Kind of seems like you have gone so far into "Joe sucks" that you are fishing for ways to get out of the bog. Seriously how can all those Hypothetically Speaking statements fit into the same paragraph?

Edit- I would make this green. But i think you know i'm jabbing fun at you?
 
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