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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As the New Jersey Nets and Dallas Mavericks feverishly worked to convince Devean George to join in the trade for Jason Kidd on Thursday, there suddenly loomed another issue that could obliterate the proposed deal: the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.

The NBA will investigate the possibility the Mavericks and Stackhouse violated league rules with a prearranged agreement for the forward to return to Dallas after reaching a contract buyout in New Jersey and sitting out the 30-day waiting period, sources said. Several league sources said the NBA will consider forbidding Stackhouse to re-sign with the Mavericks this season as punishment for public comments the forward made on Wednesday that suggested tampering could have occurred.

If it comes to that, the deal is dead. Dallas owner Mark Cuban wouldn't complete the trade for Kidd without a belief that he could bring back Stackhouse this season. Ultimately, sources say, Mavericks management decided that losing Stackhouse would be too hard of a hit to the Mavericks' depth, too steep a price to pay for Kidd.</div>

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-s...o&type=lgns
 
This sounds a ) 100% plausible and b ) totally unfair.

God damn it!
 
This is really pissing me off.

Everyone can make a trade work but the Nets?
 
only to the nets can a POS scrub can ruin a kidd trade
 
If the trade doesn't go through because of George and Stack I'm boycotting the NBA.

Deal after bullshit deal but when the Nets finally get a break on their side after years and then they veto it, I'm done.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Feb 15 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the trade doesn't go through because of George and Stack I'm boycotting the NBA.

Deal after bullshit deal but when the Nets finally get a break on their side after years and they veto it, I'm done.</div>

Somebody should compile a list of all the cheating, bullshit trades the NBA has let through over the years.

The rules are so restrictive that it's almost impossible to make one without a little fudging of some rule.



Cuban is starting to back off. Look at this quote.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Cuban said he is not frustrated that the trade has been halted.

"I was never that excited about it in the first place," Cuban said. "There are pluses and minuses to every discussion that we had. If someone wants to hand me a bargain, I'm going to take it. But this is no bargain."</div>
Link.


I never really thought this trade was in jeopardy until this morning. Now I'm getting extremely upset.
 
I love how the NBA will investigate this and act like they had no idea Stackhouse was going to re-sign with Dallas after this deal.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 15 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ive grown to really hate the mavericks now</div>

There a long time ago. Last night I was watching the game Mavs/Suns, it was half & Cuban was in the huddle w/ his team.

What a douche.

-Petey
 
OH MY ****ing GOD, if cuban changes his mind now thanks to devean ****ing george i will murder him and stack to
 
this is all to make the nba look "good"

trust me this will not hold up the deal or else mark cuban would really be on their asses, even more so then he gets on them now lol

i really wouldnt look too much into this, the nba is aware this happens all the time but they would just like it for players to keep it hush hush, stackhouse messed up so now theyre gioin to have a pretend investigation to please the other nba executives
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 15 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never really thought this trade was in jeopardy until this morning. Now I'm getting extremely upset.</div>

I could easily be wrong about this, but it isn't hard to envision that Thornepedia is demanding some additional compensation if KHV is included instead of George, especially since the Nets would be forced to cut someone or make a secondary 2-for-1 deal with another team, and KVH would eat up a roster spot for the rest of the season. If that was the case, then a comment like Cuban's would be predictable as the only way to get Thornepedia off their additional demands. Again, it's quite possible that he's being honest, but if I was part of Thorndumpedia, I'd ask for more just to see the reaction.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 15 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 15 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never really thought this trade was in jeopardy until this morning. Now I'm getting extremely upset.</div>

I could easily be wrong about this, but it isn't hard to envision that Thornepedia is demanding some additional compensation if KHV is included instead of George, especially since the Nets would be forced to cut someone or make a secondary 2-for-1 deal with another team, and KVH would eat up a roster spot for the rest of the season. If that was the case, then a comment like Cuban's would be predictable as the only way to get Thornepedia off their additional demands. Again, it's quite possible that he's being honest, but if I was part of Thorndumpedia, I'd ask for more just to see the reaction.
</div>

By using KVH the Mavs would be paying more in luxury taxes this offseason. Perhaps Cuban wants some compensation for that?

-Petey
 
Does anyone actually know if KVH is willing to suit up and travel with the Nets for the rest of the season?

That's what Aaron McKie is being forced to do. He seems happy about it.

KVH might not be too thrilled.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 15 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Does anyone actually know if KVH is willing to suit up and travel with the Nets for the rest of the season?

That's what Aaron McKie is being forced to do. He seems happy about it.

KVH might not be too thrilled.</div>

considering that he left NJ on bad terms and he didnt even want to suit up for the mavs, who had a chance at a title, i doubt it. but kidd and martin arent here so he might want to play again
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 15 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Does anyone actually know if KVH is willing to suit up and travel with the Nets for the rest of the season?

That's what Aaron McKie is being forced to do. He seems happy about it.

KVH might not be too thrilled.</div>

well if he wants his money he'll show up lol

i think this deal is too far into the woods to start turning back now, the only way is to finish it

charles barkeley said this deal HAS to get done becuz mentally for the mavs they cant go thru this, they need a jolt and kidd would bring that

if they dont complete it devin harris, and diop would be affected mentally by this and it would ruin team chemistry especialy if they start losing some games theres goin to be some unhappy players in that lockerroom maybe even pointin fingers at george.

as far as kidd goes, if it doesnt go thru ya i will be upset but its not like we come out losers either we'll still have the best pg in the game on our team. i think the mavs have more to lose by not completing this than we do
 
what i don't like though is how executives are protesting this. if Stack wants to resign with Dallas it should be his choice not the NBA's, and executives should just reliaze thats where he wants to be.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thedude9990 @ Feb 15 2008, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what i don't like though is how executives are protesting this. if Stack wants to resign with Dallas it should be his choice not the NBA's, and executives should just reliaze thats where he wants to be.</div>

thats exactly why i wouldnt worry too much about this, the writers are just lookin for stuff to write about since the allstar break is here.

trust me im sure stackhouse wont let them stop this from happenning he wants Kidd there just as bad as any1 in dallas, im sure stacks lawyers wouldnt allow their client his freedom to sign wherever he wants and if its his choice to gobak to dallas then thats his choice, they cant take that away from him

what he implied was that if hes boughtout which is stil far away from happening, his intention is to return to the mavs if they want him back

theres nothing wrong with that, other "executives" are just being player haters, im sure if some other team wants him out there and they offer him double of what the mavs offer him he'll say sorry mark cuban im gone, so technicaly there is no guarentee that he will resgin wit dallas

anything could happen and the nba cant deny that privalge to stackhouse
 
I still think the hold up is related to Kidd being an Eastern All-Star and the league not wanting to adjust the rosters.

The trade will go down after the All-Star game.

 
Jerry. ****ing. Stackhouse.

I hope the Mavs lose in the first round again this year. This deal ain't happening, and it's cause he couldn't keep his ****ing mouth shut.
 
If I was the GM and the deal was blocked I would go on every news station proclaiming foul play by the league...Lets be real EVERYBODY knew Stackhouse was being bought out...EVERYBODY. He was simply asked how he felt and answered truthfully. He likes Dallas so he'd rather sit 30 days than sign with another team.

Given Stackhouse is a moving piece and not the centerpiece of the trade, and that techniquelly no rules are broken than the league would have some problems by blocking this trade. Yeah it may be slightly dirty business...but c'mon everybody in the league does deals like this at some point.

Devon Harris and the Picks are what Jersey really wants. It's to fair of a trade for the league to get involved.
 
I don't see the problem...
If KVH can be used in this trade, I don't know why would Stac and George be needed...

KVH can be resigned up to a one year 15 mill contract... Thats less than Stack's remaining salary... and his huge expirer would be a nice asset.

KVH + Harris + Ager + the 1 first rounders for Kidd and Malik Allen would work just fine.

Dallas keeps it's depth, we get a huge expirer, everyone is happy.

Than, if we can somehow pull off Boki + Magloire + Wright for Mike Miller...

vow..

And that's when we have everything to get JO or Brand, without giving up the core guys.

KVH's 15 mill expirer + Krstic + Marcus for JO, and we have this roster for next season:

JO/Sean
Boone/Stro
RJ/Miller
Vince/Ager
Harris/Armstrong

looks pretty good to me...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Feb 15 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see the problem...
If KVH can be used in this trade, I don't know why would Stac and George be needed...

KVH can be resigned up to a one year 15 mill contract... Thats less than Stack's remaining salary... and his huge expirer would be a nice asset.

KVH + Harris + Ager + the 1 first rounders for Kidd and Malik Allen would work just fine.

Dallas keeps it's depth, we get a huge expirer, everyone is happy.

Than, if we can somehow pull off Boki + Magloire + Wright for Mike Miller...

vow..

And that's when we have everything to get JO or Brand, without giving up the core guys.

KVH's 15 mill expirer + Krstic + Marcus for JO, and we have this roster for next season:

JO/Sean
Boone/Stro
RJ/Miller
Vince/Ager
Harris/Armstrong

looks pretty good to me...</div>

apparently Cuban is balking at the large tax hit associated with doing it that way.
 
Why dont we go ahead with the mike miller trade and just keep kidd??!!

this deal is over with.

let magloire and boki go and lets run with miller!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Feb 15 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why dont we go ahead with the mike miller trade and just keep kidd??!!

this deal is over with.

let magloire and boki go and lets run with miller!</div>

Might have needed the 1st round picks from the Mavs deal to complete the Miller trade?

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 15 2008, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Feb 15 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why dont we go ahead with the mike miller trade and just keep kidd??!!

this deal is over with.

let magloire and boki go and lets run with miller!</div>

Might have needed the 1st round picks from the Mavs deal to complete the Miller trade?

-Petey
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forgot about the picks. dammit!

miller is one of my fav players in the league. i want him in the swamp!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 15 2008, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Feb 15 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why dont we go ahead with the mike miller trade and just keep kidd??!!

this deal is over with.

let magloire and boki go and lets run with miller!</div>

Might have needed the 1st round picks from the Mavs deal to complete the Miller trade?

-Petey
</div>

Would it be in our best interests to give up our 1st round draft pick to get Miller if we do end up keeping kidd?
 
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