Democrat Congressional Comittee attacks Rush Limbaugh

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Oh my god! Politics!!!! Here in the USA!! Where will the politicians attack next?!?!!??!!!

barfo

Again, its a gross distortion of what Rush actually said and it just makes Rush stronger.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

and your comment about "welcome to a new America?" fuck- i'll take Obama's new america, because look at where we've gone the last 8 years, Straight down the republican's gold plated toilet. Get off your fucking high horse, your views and crew are old and done. I can't believe you still support that old regime of power by fear.

It's funny how all you republicans are screaming bloody murder in these OT forums now that there's a new sheriff in town, oh how the tables have turned. Yet Obama doesn't even have close the track record that Bush has, a track record scarred with terrible policies and orders, mind you.

Yeah, I didn't vote Republican the last election. Its all about checks and balances, we're going to criticize anything we see fit. Track record, Smack record.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

I think Rush Limbaugh would be very happy with a President Michael Steele or a President J.C. Watts. I don't think color has anything to do with it. More likely, his opposition to President Obama is ideological.

nope. Cracka azz crackaz!

 

[maxiep]

By the way, it's the right that by and large believe in a meritocracy and it's the left that believes in quotas and identity politics.

 

[barfo]

Again, its a gross distortion of what Rush actually said and it just makes Rush stronger.

Shocking that a campaign committee would be involved in politics, really.
Just shocking.

barfo

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Shocking that a campaign committee would be involved in politics, really.
Just shocking.

barfo

Indeed it is, where they grossly distort the truth, lie, mislead and attack a single private figure and individual who doesn't happen to "fall in line".

 

[barfo]

Indeed it is, where they grossly distort the truth, lie, mislead and attack a single private figure and individual who doesn't happen to "fall in line".

Poor, poor innocent Rush. Here he's always told the truth and was just minding his own business, and those bad meanies from the DCCC attacked him. Took away his toys. Made him cry. Aw, makes you want to give poor Rush a big hug.

barfo

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Isn't the first time either the government has tried to control his free speech.

September 28, 2007

JOIN AS AN ORIGINAL COSPONSOR OF A RESOLUTION

HONORING OUR ARMED FORCES AND

CONDEMNING RUSH LIMBAUGH'S ATTACK

ON "PHONY SOLDIERS"

Dear Colleague:

On September 26, 2007 the broadcaster Rush Limbaugh told a nationwide radio audience that members of the Armed Forces who have expressed disagreement with current policies of the United States regarding military activities in Iraq are "phony soldiers."

On Monday I will introduce a resolution honoring all Americans serving in the Armed Forces and condemning this unwarranted attack on the integrity and professionalism of those in the Armed Forces who choose to exercise their constitutional right to express their opinions regarding U.S. military action in Iraq.

For more information or to cosponsor the resolution, please contact XXXXXXX in my office at xxxxx.

Sincerely,


Mark Udall

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Poor, poor innocent Rush. Here he's always told the truth and was just minding his own business, and those bad meanies from the DCCC attacked him. Took away his toys. Made him cry. Aw, makes you want to give poor Rush a big hug.

barfo

Indeed. His words, in this instance were grossly distorted by the government who now seek to tar and feather him.

 

[SodaPopinski]

Um, the Democrats tried to talk this country into a recession. It took them five years, but they finally did it. I've never seen a group of people put their party before the country so much in my life, not even during Watergate.

Holy shit you are delusional.

I'm not sure you'd find a single sane economist who would blame our current financial woes on the democratic party "talking the country into a recession."

That might be the single most ridiculous thing I've heard.

-Pop

 

[blue32]

Oh good lord. Might as well call it a day with these replies. I'm surprised anything ever gets done with you people.
I'm just glad my side "won" finally, and hopefully in 8 years we'll be in a better place to bring threads like these back up.

 

[maxiep]

Holy shit you are delusional.

I'm not sure you'd find a single sane economist who would blame our current financial woes on the democratic party "talking the country into a recession."

That might be the single most ridiculous thing I've heard.

-Pop

No, our woes are the fault of government interference in free markets. However, consumer confidence plays a role in the health of the economy. And that confidence has been under assault by the Democrats in their effort to win back the House, the Senate and the White House. Well, well, well, I guess we can all say "Mission Accomplished". Now the mess is theirs and theirs alone.

 

[PapaG]

Shocking that a campaign committee would be involved in politics, really.
Just shocking.

barfo

The DCCC is run by active members of Congress. Or did you miss that the first time around?

 

[maxiep]

Oh good lord. Might as well call it a day with these replies. I'm surprised anything ever gets done with you people.
I'm just glad my side "won" finally, and hopefully in 8 years we'll be in a better place to bring threads like these back up.

Yeah, I know it's tough for you to actually construct a cogent reply that refutes the specific points brought up in the thread. I agree, it's time for you to sit around and wait for the welfare check you'll be receiving and my son will be paying off for you.

 

[blue32]

Yeah, I know it's tough for you to actually construct a cogent reply that refutes the specific points brought up in the thread. I agree, it's time for you to sit around and wait for the welfare check you'll be receiving and my son will be paying off for you.

Nah, it's just too time consuming to debate with someone that's got their head so far up their own ass that they're blind. You haven't brought up anything in this thread other than your personal opinion, as have I.

Now keep living your life in fear, go buy up all the guns on the street, and prepare to be invaded by the Russians, or the desert terrorists or whatever the Republicans need you to be scared about this week.

 

[barfo]

The DCCC is run by active members of Congress. Or did you miss that the first time around?

Of course it is run by active members of congress. What's your point? Did you think politicians don't campaign?

barfo

 

[SodaPopinski]

No, our woes are the fault of government interference in free markets. However, consumer confidence plays a role in the health of the economy. And that confidence has been under assault by the Democrats in their effort to win back the House, the Senate and the White House. Well, well, well, I guess we can all say "Mission Accomplished". Now the mess is theirs and theirs alone.

You can pour milk all over a bowl of goat shit, but you aren't going to convince me it's Cocoa Puffs.

-Pop

 

[Stevenson]

I prefer limited government.

Then why vote Republican?

No party has grown government more than the Bushies the past 8 years. Clinton and Gore REDUCED the size of government, and if you don't believe me, google it.

Facts are a bitch sometimes.

As for Rush: 1) Let's remember he's an entertainer and he wants ratings, and 2) despite that, what he said was unAmerican. Patriot my ass.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

how was it "unamerican"? look at his complete statement, not just a selective piece of it.

 

[rocketeer]

2) despite that, what he said was unAmerican. Patriot my ass.

if the actual quote was this:

Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

what exactly is wrong with that?

 

[rocketeer]

Holy shit you are delusional.

I'm not sure you'd find a single sane economist who would blame our current financial woes on the democratic party "talking the country into a recession."

That might be the single most ridiculous thing I've heard.

-Pop

i haven't heard anyone actually talking about it and it definitely wasn't the main factor or anything, but the constant bitching about how horrible the economy was and all the negative bullshit that went with it definitely played a part. consumer confidence and expectations do play an important role in the economy and it would be ridiculous to ignore that.

 

[barfo]

if the actual quote was this:

what exactly is wrong with that?

Here is the actual transcript, taken from rushlimbaugh.com:

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.

Were the liberals out there hoping Bush succeeded or were they out there trying to destroy him before he was even inaugurated? Why do we have to play the game by their rules? Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed? This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry. I got past the historical nature of this months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say. Shows you just how far gone we are. Well, I know, I know. I am the last man standing.
I'm happy to be the last man standing. I'm honored to be the last man standing. Yeah, I'm the true maverick. I can do more than four words. I could say I hope he fails and I could do a brief explanation of why. You know, I want to win. If my party doesn't, I do. If my party has sacrificed the whole concept of victory, sorry, I'm now the Republican in name only, and they are the sellouts. I'm serious about this. Why in the world, it's what Ann Coulter was talking about, the tyranny of the majority, all these victims here, we gotta make sure the victims are finally assuaged. Well, the dirty little secret is this isn't going to assuage anybody's victim status, and the race industry isn't going to go away, and the fact that America's original sin of slavery is going to be absolved, it's not going to happen. Just isn't, folks. It's too big a business for the left to keep all those things alive that divide the people of this country into groups that are against each other. Yes, I'm fired up about this.

Pretty clear he puts party above country.

barfo

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

not really. He merely defends his own ideology over that of his party, which he sees to have failed.

 

[rocketeer]

Pretty clear he puts party above country.

barfo

i can't say that i agree with you there.

if he actually believes what he says, then clearly he believes that obama's policies are not good and thus does not want them to succeed.

 

[barfo]

i can't say that i agree with you there.

if he actually believes what he says, then clearly he believes that obama's policies are not good and thus does not want them to succeed.

If they succeed, how can they not be good?
If he had said that he doesn't want Obama's plans to be implemented, that's one thing. Then he'd have a defense. But to wish that the government implements policies that fail, that is actually wishing harm upon the country for political gain. Which seems to me to be exactly what he is saying. "I want to win". Not "I want the country to prosper".

barfo

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

If they succeed, how can they not be good?
If he had said that he doesn't want Obama's plans to be implemented, that's one thing. Then he'd have a defense. But to wish that the government implements policies that fail, that is actually wishing harm upon the country for political gain. Which seems to me to be exactly what he is saying. "I want to win". Not "I want the country to prosper".

barfo

What does he aim to "win" here? Limbaugh truly believes in smaller government, and is fundamentally opposed to it, so he hopes Obama's efforts for the government to control and own the private sector fail.

He doesn't wish that the government implements policies that fail. He hopes that they truly do not get implemented in the first place. He hopes that Obama is unsuccessful in implementing a big government that controls our lives and owns the private sector.

 

[barfo]

What does he aim to "win" here? Limbaugh truly believes in smaller government, and is fundamentally opposed to it, so he hopes Obama's efforts for the government to control and own the private sector fail.

He doesn't wish that the government implements policies that fail. He hopes that they truly do not get implemented in the first place. He hopes that Obama is unsuccessful in implementing a big government that controls our lives and owns the private sector.

He may, indeed, wish that. But that isn't what he said.

I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work.

barfo

 

[Stevenson]

Here is what is so disingenuous about Rush's statement:

"What is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here."

Aside from the fact that he said he hopes the president fails, it most certainly is not liberalism that has gotten us close to the precipice, it conservatism. A liberal has not been in office since Johnson in 1968. What a load of hooey. And while we are at it - it is liberalism that gave you Social Security, the middle class, Medicare, the minimum wage, even freedom of speech.

And Rush most certainly does not believe in smaller government, he believes in Republican government. The Bushies GREW government, the Clintons SHRANK it.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

He may, indeed, wish that. But that isn't what he said.



barfo

I said:

He hopes that they truly do not get implemented in the first place.

He said:

I do not want the government in charge of all of these things.

I said:

he hopes Obama's efforts for the government to control and own the private sector fail.

He said:

I don't want this to work.

Seems pretty damn similar to me.

 

[barfo]

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Seems pretty damn similar to me.

Only if I accept the premise that you are far more articulate than he is. Because if he really meant what you said, he would have said what you said. Rush doesn't have a problem with communication, and he's not exactly subtle.

barfo