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Well, at least you admit that Republican/Libertarian selfishness is revolting.

It's a small step, but an important one.

barfo

Tell you what... If America adopts Netherland's tax code, I'll buy you a new car. 70% on income of 40k
 
Instead of cherrypicking Silicon Valley, find the numbers for the whole nation. Then find how much wealth was transferred from the labor of the poor to pay for the enrichment of San Francisco.

18,267 millionaire households in D.C.

The median net worth of our congressmen is $1.03M.

Nancy Pelosi is worth at least $88M.
 
Oh for fucks sake... Dviss was pulling the same shit when he talked about his democrats. Saying this was just Denny is fucking ridiculous and you know it

What I posted is the truth and Denny will post graphs to support it. How dare you say this is fucking ridiculous. Learn the truth then post.
 
People advocating for higher taxes need to stop and calculate how much tax they already pay. Not just in Federal income tax, but all taxes paid to all levels of government, many of the taxes are hidden.

Here is just a partial list.
  • Dog License Tax
  • Gasoline Tax
  • Liquor Tax
  • Marriage License Tax
  • Medicare and Medicaid, or Obama care Taxes
  • Property Tax
  • Real Estate Tax
  • Septic Permit Tax
  • Sales Taxes
  • School Tax
  • State Income Tax
  • State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
  • Toll Bridge, Tunnel and Road Taxes
  • Vehicle License Registration Tax
  • Workers Compensation Tax
  • Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
  • Social Security Tax
  • Capital Gains Tax
  • Building Permit Tax

Most employed USA citizens already lose between 43% and 60% of their paycheck to some form of tax.
 
27% including state income and business taxes.

27% to 40% is a ~50% increase.
Okay gotcha. Which comes up with my other argument.

We have states and federal taxes. The EU is the Union for Europe, like the United States is the union for our states. So wouldn't Netherlands be like, let's say, NY or Las Vegas, as Greece would be like Mississippi?
 
Okay gotcha. Which comes up with my other argument.

We have states and federal taxes. The EU is the Union for Europe, like the United States is the union for our states. So wouldn't Netherlands be like, let's say, NY or Las Vegas, as Greece would be like Mississippi?

Greece be like Detroit be like Social Democracy in action.
 
Why aren't the union bailing out Germany, Italy, Greece or Spain? I mean they are all adopting some form of socialism right?
 
Why aren't the union bailing out Germany, Italy, Greece or Spain? I mean they are all adopting some form of socialism right?

Germany, no. They did the opposite of what Paul Krugman wanted and Obama did during the height of the financial crisis and are running huge surpluses. The social democracies are upset that their plans didn't work and want Germany to pay for everything.

EDIT:

link
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015...n-dealing-with-vulnerable-eurozone-economies/
 
Germany, no. They did the opposite of what Paul Krugman wanted and Obama did during the height of the financial crisis and are running huge surpluses. The social democracies are upset that their plans didn't work and want Germany to pay for everything.
I'm just saying it's easy to pick a country with like 20 million people and assume it can apply for one with 300+ million. It doesn't ever work that way.
 
What is called "profit" in capitalism is included in "tax" in communism. The markup batween each level, from producer to retailer to consumer, was the only tax in most communist countries.

To compare tax in capitalism to tax in communism, you should include profit. You'll find that our tax rates suddenly look much higher.
 
I'm just saying it's easy to pick a country with like 20 million people and assume it can apply for one with 300+ million. It doesn't ever work that way.

Germany has a fraction of the defense spending needs we do. Because we defend them.
 
70% of US government spending is direct payments to individuals in the form of checks.
 
70% of US government spending is direct payments to individuals in the form of checks.

I'm sure that's not true.

The government has been working to cut down on mailing checks in favor of direct deposit, cards, and other payment methods.

barfo
 
I'm just saying it's easy to pick a country with like 20 million people and assume it can apply for one with 300+ million. It doesn't ever work that way.

Bullshit. That's a Republican talking point.
 
Germany has a fraction of the defense spending needs we do. Because we defend them.

Policing other countries cost lots of money... there's absolutely no reason that we need to spend as much as we do on "defense". China doesn't and they have a way larger military than we do. We spend more than the top next five countries on our military. Building up for an imaginary war with Russia. You guys are on one...
 
Greece be like Detroit be like Social Democracy in action.

Greece doesn't have products to export that's the problem. Not their social programs. Prior to mags bullshit comment above, Germany has been doing excellent during the economic downturn. School is Free there. school is free there. They have better social programs in we do. How did we let Germany become a more forward-thinking society than we are?
 
Greece doesn't have products to export that's the problem. Not their social programs. Prior to mags bullshit comment above, Germany has been doing excellent during the economic downturn. School is Free there. school is free there. They have better social programs in we do. How did we let Germany become a more forward-thinking society than we are?

Detroit doesn't have products to export, either.

It wasn't run by republicans.
 
It's being ran by republicans and un-elected "city managers" right now.
Of course a democrat would say such things. They cannot accept their party has done anything wrong.

You gotta blame the republicans because they are evil! /sarcasm
 
It's being ran by republicans and un-elected "city managers" right now.

And making something of a comeback.

It was social programs that wiped out the city. Managed by social democrats.

Off topic:

Google Black Wall Street.

Government not only failed to protect citizens from violence, some took part.

The successes prior weren't due to any social engineering like AA, handouts, subsidies, taxing the rich, etc.
 
Of course a democrat would say such things. They cannot accept their party has done anything wrong.

You gotta blame the republicans because they are evil! /sarcasm
When it comes to hating gays, attempting to take away Black people's ability to vote with poll taxes, hammering on all Latinos as illegals, yeah that shit is pretty damn evil.
 
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