Politics Democrats have owned this state for decades - what do we have to show for it?

[dviss1]

So what does the state do when they go bankrupt trying to pay for PERS?

Sigh...

Let the republicans (who have pretty much vowed to FUCK over public education via Betsy Devoss) fix it...

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

So what does the state do when they go bankrupt trying to pay for PERS?

They do what they’ve always done; Rob Peter to pay Paul and/or raise taxes. That sucks but anyone who blames a PERS employee for the problem obviously hasn’t been paying attention (or just needs someone to blame to feel better). As a PERS retiree I NEVER (in any way, shape or form) asked or bargained for my pension. It was “forced” on me in lieu of a pay raise after my municipality (which did not have a retirement program at that time) belatedly realized they could no longer hire or retain quality employees at the stagnant wages they were paying. So they deliberately chose (what was then) the “easy” way out, i.e.; it cost them 5.2% (upfront) to pay our retirement rather than 6% (upfront) for a pay raise. Then, in order to minimize risk, they put limits of how public entities could invest those funds. Restrictions the PERS program was not bound by, so PERS had the freedom to bet (and win) big (which they did). In essence, they (and a lot of other public entities) tried to cheap it and fucked up. Please don’t ask me to feel guilt or shame for the 46% of my final salary I’m taking home after 35 years of municipal service. That dog won’t hunt. And blaming the Democrats for a Republican FUBAR won’t either.......

 

[SlyPokerCat]

They do what they’ve always done; Rob Peter to pay Paul and/or raise taxes. That sucks but anyone who blames a PERS employee for the problem obviously hasn’t been paying attention (or just needs someone to blame to feel better). As a PERS retiree I NEVER (in any way, shape or form) asked or bargained for my pension. It was “forced” on me in lieu of a pay raise after my municipality (which did not have a retirement program at that time) belatedly realized they could no longer hire or retain quality employees at the stagnant wages they were paying. So they deliberately chose (what was then) the “easy” way out, i.e.; it cost them 5.2% (upfront) to pay our retirement rather than 6% (upfront) for a pay raise. Then, in order to minimize risk, they put limits of how public entities could invest those funds. Restrictions the PERS program was not bound by, so PERS had the freedom to bet (and win) big (which they did). In essence, they (and a lot of other public entities) tried to cheap it and fucked up. Please don’t ask me to feel guilt or shame for the 46% of my final salary I’m taking home after 35 years of municipal service. That dog won’t hunt. And blaming the Democrats for a Republican FUBAR won’t either.......

That's the thing. People see the belottis and ohsu doctors and think everyone is making out like bandits.

Kate Brown stated in a debate with Knute that the median PERS recipient takes home a pension that is in the mid 20's.

Tier 3 recipients (what todays new employee gets) is a far cry from tier 1 or 2.

When the tier 1's pass away, the problem will be greatly improved. Sad to say but true.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fun fact, police, firefighters and judges earn PERS at 1.5% the rate of all other employees.

 

[Natebishop3]

They do what they’ve always done; Rob Peter to pay Paul and/or raise taxes. That sucks but anyone who blames a PERS employee for the problem obviously hasn’t been paying attention (or just needs someone to blame to feel better). As a PERS retiree I NEVER (in any way, shape or form) asked or bargained for my pension. It was “forced” on me in lieu of a pay raise after my municipality (which did not have a retirement program at that time) belatedly realized they could no longer hire or retain quality employees at the stagnant wages they were paying. So they deliberately chose (what was then) the “easy” way out, i.e.; it cost them 5.2% (upfront) to pay our retirement rather than 6% (upfront) for a pay raise. Then, in order to minimize risk, they put limits of how public entities could invest those funds. Restrictions the PERS program was not bound by, so PERS had the freedom to bet (and win) big (which they did). In essence, they (and a lot of other public entities) tried to cheap it and fucked up. Please don’t ask me to feel guilt or shame for the 46% of my final salary I’m taking home after 35 years of municipal service. That dog won’t hunt. And blaming the Democrats for a Republican FUBAR won’t either.......

Who blamed PERS? I blame the people who have been in power for the past 30+ years for not making corrections.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sigh...

Let the republicans (who have pretty much vowed to FUCK over public education via Betsy Devoss) fix it...

That's literally never going to happen. People will elect and re-elect democrats no matter how bad it gets. A Democrat could shoot someone and still probably get re-elected.

 

[MARIS61]

Here's 3 of those homeless/antifa/Dems we're supposed to feel sorry for.

Booby trap on bike path in Portland injures bicyclist; 3 men arrested, police say

The three men responsible for setting the trap have been arrested.

A woman bicycling in Oregon's largest city was injured Friday after a booby trap was set up on a popular walking and bike path, which led to the arrest of three men, according to officials.

The Portland Police Department said in a news release that officers received a report around 10:53 p.m. of an injured person on the Interstate 205 Multi-Use Path, and arrived at the scene to find an injured woman.

During the investigation, officers learned that the woman was traveling north when she became "entangled and injured" by material that was strung across the path.

"As an officer canvassed the area, he located woven string that spanned the path just south of Southeast Division Street," police said.

Dakota E. Murphy, Antonio R. Tolman-Duran, and Justin J. Jones were arrested on charges of assault and reckless endangering. (Portland Police)

Officers in the area found three men who were believed to have positioned the woven string across the path. Justin J. Jones, 23, Antonio R. Tolman-Duran, 27, and Dakota E. Murphy, 21, were arrested and face charges of assault and reckless endangering. All three have since been released from jail.

The woman, who was riding the bike at the time, told FOX12 she was going downhill when next thing she knew the strings wrapped around her eyes, chin, and neck.

“It like hot and I could actually feel the pieces unraveling across my face,” Carlene Ostedgaard said.

Ostedgaard told FOX 12 she knew right away to put her head down and let her helmet protect her, and she managed to stay upright on her bike and not fall.

Carlene Ostedgaard said after encountering the string, she put her head down and let her helmet protect her, managing to stay upright. (FOX12)

“I was crying, it was like this feeling of sadness and despair that like human beings would do this," she said. “But then upon reflection, it’s like there are a lot of hurt people and I just happened to be the one in the way.”

Other cyclists who use the path told FOX12 they're always on the lookout because the incident on Friday was not the first time they had heard of people setting traps along the route.

“This is kind of just the reality of riding the multi-use paths around here,” cyclist Rob Dolan said.

Portland Police have asked the public to notify the department or the park rangers to investigate if they spot any safety hazards on a bike path.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/booby-tr...-injuries-bicyclist-3-men-arrested-police-say

 

[Lanny]

Here's 3 of those homeless/antifa/Dems we're supposed to feel sorry for.

Booby trap on bike path in Portland injures bicyclist; 3 men arrested, police say

The three men responsible for setting the trap have been arrested.

A woman bicycling in Oregon's largest city was injured Friday after a booby trap was set up on a popular walking and bike path, which led to the arrest of three men, according to officials.

The Portland Police Department said in a news release that officers received a report around 10:53 p.m. of an injured person on the Interstate 205 Multi-Use Path, and arrived at the scene to find an injured woman.

During the investigation, officers learned that the woman was traveling north when she became "entangled and injured" by material that was strung across the path.

"As an officer canvassed the area, he located woven string that spanned the path just south of Southeast Division Street," police said.

Dakota E. Murphy, Antonio R. Tolman-Duran, and Justin J. Jones were arrested on charges of assault and reckless endangering. (Portland Police)

Officers in the area found three men who were believed to have positioned the woven string across the path. Justin J. Jones, 23, Antonio R. Tolman-Duran, 27, and Dakota E. Murphy, 21, were arrested and face charges of assault and reckless endangering. All three have since been released from jail.

The woman, who was riding the bike at the time, told FOX12 she was going downhill when next thing she knew the strings wrapped around her eyes, chin, and neck.

“It like hot and I could actually feel the pieces unraveling across my face,” Carlene Ostedgaard said.

Ostedgaard told FOX 12 she knew right away to put her head down and let her helmet protect her, and she managed to stay upright on her bike and not fall.

Carlene Ostedgaard said after encountering the string, she put her head down and let her helmet protect her, managing to stay upright. (FOX12)

“I was crying, it was like this feeling of sadness and despair that like human beings would do this," she said. “But then upon reflection, it’s like there are a lot of hurt people and I just happened to be the one in the way.”

Other cyclists who use the path told FOX12 they're always on the lookout because the incident on Friday was not the first time they had heard of people setting traps along the route.

“This is kind of just the reality of riding the multi-use paths around here,” cyclist Rob Dolan said.

Portland Police have asked the public to notify the department or the park rangers to investigate if they spot any safety hazards on a bike path.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/booby-tr...-injuries-bicyclist-3-men-arrested-police-say

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